Thailand’s airports vow to eliminate carbon emissions by 2032

[webfact]

Airports of Thailand (AOT) is gearing up to transform the aviation landscape by pledging to achieve carbon neutrality by 2030 and zero carbon emissions by 2032.

AOT, responsible for overseeing the nation’s major hubs, has laid out an ambitious strategy to slash a whopping 50% of its annual carbon footprint, currently standing at 300,000 tons.

 

Keerati Kitmanawat, AOT’s dynamic CEO declared that AOT plays a crucial role in curbing carbon emissions within the Thai aviation sector. The strategy entails a swift transition from internal combustion to electric vehicles (EVs), with a plan to electrify 1,180 rental cars in 2024, escalating to 600 by 2027, and a grand vision to replace over 4,000 taxis and limousines, as well as 3,400 support vehicles, with eco-friendly electric alternatives.

 

This audacious move is anticipated to save a colossal 10 million litres of fuel annually, translating to a commendable 28,360-tonne reduction in carbon emissions. Moreover, the initiative promises a breath of fresh air by mitigating air pollution at the airports.

 

by Puntid Tantivangphaisal

Photo courtesy of The Nation

 

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[flyingtlger]

31 minutes ago, webfact said:

The strategy entails a swift transition from internal combustion to electric vehicles (EVs), with a plan to electrify 1,180 rental cars in 2024, escalating to 600 by 2027, and a grand vision to replace over 4,000 taxis and limousines

Right...Where are they going to get the funding? Money talks, BS walks. These clowns are walking in circles.

[smedly]

28 minutes ago, flyingtlger said:

Right...Where are they going to get the funding? Money talks, BS walks. These clowns are walking in circles.

total nonsence, who makes these stupid statements when it's not safe to breath the air in bangkok 12 months a year, Thailand is polluting , it costs money to go green, huge money, not going to happen, can talk about it, lets see the details how you are going to achieve this Keerati Kitmanawat, no didn't think so

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Airports of Thailand (AOT) is gearing up to transform the aviation landscape by pledging to achieve carbon neutrality by 2030 and zero carbon emissions by 2032.

Impossible...

[Stargeezr]

Wow, all these big jet airliners will be electric?  Oh for sure if you believe science fiction..

  Carbon Dioxide is less than 0ne half of one percent of the atmosphere, but  some people 

think it is a lot more. The dream of not needing oil, which makes most plastic products, polyester clothing and 

suits, exercie gear, and all the linings in car and trucks, the foam in your stuffed chairs, sofas, and bed mattresses.

  The world that we like to live in will always need oil. We need less of those batteries that catch fire though.

  I liked the old Lead acid battery, it may not have the output of these new modern batteries, but did not

short out and catch fire as easily. The airports can put up lots of solar panels and that may help with some

electricity demands, however dreaming of no carbon emmissions is just that a dream.

[VinnieK]

Another day, another brainf@rt.

[Flying Saucage]

Carbon Dioxide is essential for the growth of plants. With a current concentration of 0.4%, of which only 4% is 'man made', the concentration is almost the lowest in the history of Earth. Under 0.2%, plants will die.

 

Yes, there is climate change, but there  always has been climate change in Earth history, which has to do with solar activity, the permanent change of the distance between Earth and 

Sun, and with volcanic activity on Earth. The influence of us humans on the climate is neglectable. Far more serious is all the other pollution humans do, like the plastics in the oceans.

 

But one thing for sure: The narrative of the man made climate change is a big multi billion business.

[JonnyF]

Thailand doing it's best to jump aboard the Doomsday cult's bandwagon, and looking just as ridiculous as their Western counterparts. 

 

Even if technologically possible (which it isn't), this would cost an absolute fortune. And who would pay for it? The ordinary working man in the form of extortionate ticket prices that he can no longer afford. Meanwhile the elites will take their private jets and motorcades to their exclusive conferences/resorts to lecture the masses on being responsible and giving up their 2 weeks in the sun and their cheap transport/food/heating in the name of net zero.  

[Emdog]

"The strategy entails a swift transition from internal combustion to electric vehicles (EVs),"

and we all know that generating electricity involves zero pollution, right? EVs change where the pollution occurs but does not stop pollution from happening

[VincentRJ]

2 hours ago, Flying Saucage said:

Carbon Dioxide is essential for the growth of plants. With a current concentration of 0.4%, of which only 4% is 'man made', the concentration is almost the lowest in the history of Earth. Under 0.2%, plants will die.

 

 You're out by a factor of 10. The current concentration of C02 in the atmosphere is 0.042%, or 420 parts per million.

[proton]

14 minutes ago, VincentRJ said:

 You're out by a factor of 10. The current concentration of C02 in the atmosphere is 0.042%, or 420 parts per million.

 

True, if the UK and Thailand sank into the sea tomorrow it would hardly affect Co2 levels

[brianthainess]

So the AOT are going to pay for all the new taxis, limousines and rental cars, where is the money going to come from? . I want some of what ever they are on. Where to they get their Visions from LSD or Coke. 

[cowellandrew]

And the elephant in the room, those dang rubber band planes

[Sharp]

On 1/4/2024 at 8:20 AM, Flying Saucage said:

Carbon Dioxide is essential for the growth of plants. With a current concentration of 0.4%, of which only 4% is 'man made', the concentration is almost the lowest in the history of Earth. Under 0.2%, plants will die.

 

Yes, there is climate change, but there  always has been climate change in Earth history, which has to do with solar activity, the permanent change of the distance between Earth and 

Sun, and with volcanic activity on Earth. The influence of us humans on the climate is neglectable. Far more serious is all the other pollution humans do, like the plastics in the oceans.

 

But one thing for sure: The narrative of the man made climate change is a big multi billion business.

Yeah manmade Chemtrails will alter the climate but as you say CD is essential to life on earth

[natway09]

How do you measure an EV's emissions in Thailand where 80% of their energy is produced by fossil fuels ?

[Cult of the Sun]

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with a plan to electrify 1,180 rental cars in 2024, escalating to 600 by 2027

 

Hopefully the hookers are equally bad at maff's..

[Cult of the Sun]

On 1/4/2024 at 8:46 AM, cowellandrew said:

And the elephant in the room, those dang rubber band planes

 

Actually, planes run mostly on compressed air. Not nearly as much fuel is needed to fly a plane as they tell us.  They have to maintain the globe & energy lies.   The evidence of their lies is usually hidden in 'plane' sight..

 

[JGon]

On 1/5/2024 at 11:45 PM, Cult of the Sun said:

Actually, planes run mostly on compressed air. Not nearly as much fuel is needed to fly a plane as they tell us.  They have to maintain the globe & energy lies.   The evidence of their lies is usually hidden in 'plane' sight..

 

 Huh?! Even a Boeing 787 (Which is considered a highly efficient jet liner) uses on average around 50 liters of fuel a minute. In a long-haul flight on average the 787 would consume between 22,000 to 25,000 kilograms of fuel.

 

The jet engine compresses atmosphere air once it enters... but that doesn't mean it runs on compressed air.  It needs fuel to create the combustion... the more air... the more fuel you will need... and in result you will get the thrust as high-energy exhaust is expelled out the back of the engine. If you don't have tons (literally) of fuel... you don't go anywhere.

[Cult of the Sun]

On 1/7/2024 at 6:23 AM, JGon said:

 

 Huh?! Even a Boeing 787 (Which is considered a highly efficient jet liner) uses on average around 50 liters of fuel a minute. In a long-haul flight on average the 787 would consume between 22,000 to 25,000 kilograms of fuel.

 

The jet engine compresses atmosphere air once it enters... but that doesn't mean it runs on compressed air.  It needs fuel to create the combustion... the more air... the more fuel you will need... and in result you will get the thrust as high-energy exhaust is expelled out the back of the engine. If you don't have tons (literally) of fuel... you don't go anywhere.

 

Aw.. you're so cute.  55,000 pounds of fuel?

A large Tanker trucks can hold up to 11,000 gallons of fuel.  A simple internet search would have told you the truth.

 

An Airbus A380 supposedly holds 90,000 gallons of fuel that's 290 tons or 580,000 lbs, all supposedly held within each wing. That's a whopping 30,000 lbs of fuel burned every hour, or 1 gallon a second. It's equivalent to 22 full-grown adult elephants or 16 city buses in these thin light aluminum wings.

 

It would take 16 5,200 gallon fuel trucks to fill the A380 yet clearly that much fuel cannot fit within its wings as well as the clear issues the plane would have with that much fuel schloshing around so far from its center mass. To fill an Olympic sized swimming pool takes about 4 days, that's 660,000 gallons of water. Using that same fill rate, it would take the A380 almost 8 hours to reach their claimed capacity.

 

Not my twitter account, but here is the rest of his very well researched post.

 

Edited January 12 by Cult of the Sun

[JGon]

On 1/13/2024 at 1:32 AM, Cult of the Sun said:

 

Aw.. you're so cute.  55,000 pounds of fuel?

A large Tanker trucks can hold up to 11,000 gallons of fuel.  A simple internet search would have told you the truth.

 

An Airbus A380 supposedly holds 90,000 gallons of fuel that's 290 tons or 580,000 lbs, all supposedly held within each wing. That's a whopping 30,000 lbs of fuel burned every hour, or 1 gallon a second. It's equivalent to 22 full-grown adult elephants or 16 city buses in these thin light aluminum wings.

 

It would take 16 5,200 gallon fuel trucks to fill the A380 yet clearly that much fuel cannot fit within its wings as well as the clear issues the plane would have with that much fuel schloshing around so far from its center mass. To fill an Olympic sized swimming pool takes about 4 days, that's 660,000 gallons of water. Using that same fill rate, it would take the A380 almost 8 hours to reach their claimed capacity.

 

Not my twitter account, but here is the rest of his very well researched post.

 

 

Sorry for the late reply (I don't monitor this forum too often). Anyway I was talking about the 787 a highly efficient large airplane and the fact that it still uses a lot of fuel (Contrary to your conspiracy theory of planes not using much fuel). But let's talk about the A380 then... the biggest commercial passenger jet of all time.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20180711235126/https://www.airbus.com/content/dam/corporate-topics/publications/backgrounders/techdata/aircraft_characteristics/Airbus-Commercial-Aircraft-AC-A380-Dec-2016.pdf

 

From that source... depending on various factors, including the distance of the flight, expected weather conditions, weight of the cargo and passengers, and potential need for reserves in case of diversions or delays... an A380 burns on average about 12,000 to 14,000 liters (roughly 3,170 to 3,700 gallons) of fuel per hour while cruising. That's almost 25,000 lbs while cruising and much higher burn rates while taking off. 

 

So doing the math it states that in optimal conditions a fully fuel A380 could do 20+ hours. Obviously for safety reasons they never approach those limits. But that's were half a million plus pounds of jet fuel go.

 

If you see the source document the A380 stores all that fuel mostly on its wings inside many tanks. Additionally, to  control the plane's center of gravity some fuel  gets stored in the horizontal stabilizer at the rear of the aircraft... in what they're called trim tanks. Even further... some models stored fuel in the center fuselage. It's a complex system, and it's designed to keep the center of gravity were it should be. (There a You Tube video below that explains it as well)

 

Finally how do you fill such a behemoth with fuel... well it's simple. The terminals that service these aircraft have underground hydrant systems. That's why you see big storage tanks in the airport. (See the attached pictures) They simply connect the hoses from the ground (underground piping) using a truck. Sometimes they use tank trucks if they want to use bio fuel. 

 

Anyway instead of listening to daft people in the internet... use your head, read reputable sources (like the source I posted)... do the math, look at how an A380 gets fueled. Then you can believe what you can believe. Heck you can even check You Tube.

 

 

[Danderman123]

https://solarquarter.com/2023/08/14/thailands-suvarnabhumi-airport-takes-a-green-leap-with-solar-rooftop-panels/

 

Some progress

[Danderman123]

On 1/3/2024 at 10:20 PM, Flying Saucage said:

Carbon Dioxide is essential for the growth of plants. With a current concentration of 0.4%, of which only 4% is 'man made', the concentration is almost the lowest in the history of Earth. Under 0.2%, plants will die.

 

Yes, there is climate change, but there  always has been climate change in Earth history, which has to do with solar activity, the permanent change of the distance between Earth and 

Sun, and with volcanic activity on Earth. The influence of us humans on the climate is neglectable. Far more serious is all the other pollution humans do, like the plastics in the oceans.

 

But one thing for sure: The narrative of the man made climate change is a big multi billion business.

Historically, atmospheric CO2 has a concentration of 280 ppm. In the last 100 years, the concentration of CO2 has increased to 400+ ppm. This is the highest amount of CO2 in the last million years.

 

https://www.climate.gov/media/15554

 

The vast majority of this additional CO2 comes from human sources:

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/how-do-we-know-build-carbon-dioxide-atmosphere-caused-humans

 

 

Edited January 18 by Danderman123