How “peacemaker” Thaksin is stirring up Thai politics

[Pouatchee]

2 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

My opinion is that he just making peace in Thailand. Indeed he does. No fightings between the Reds and Yellows. He comes for reconciliation not war again. And, don't forget, people like him. They did not forget what he achieved to make life in Thailand much better than before. Wages were increased and a good affordable Health care system established. Even if there might be still corruption involved he will change Thailand again. He will take over some ideas of Pita so secure his party's power and probably his daughter will become next prime minister. Thailand will move forward. With Thaksin or without.

 

this is the most naive and stup-_-st post ever made here on AN. what a maroonish thing to think

[Ralf001]

2 hours ago, geisha said:

 

By the way, Happy Birthday MR Thaksin  !! 

 

 

I thought P'Thaksin was born in July ?

[newbee2022]

7 minutes ago, Pouatchee said:

 

this is the most naive and stup-_-st post ever made here on AN. what a maroonish thing to think

And your answer doesn't give any intellectual reply. Is that all you can offer? Very sad.🙏

[phetpeter]

No matter who you are, if you give you have to stop giving them handouts, the people will move on to the next handout. This is what TK has done every time. If I stop feeding my dog her favourite treat every morning, she goes up to the neighbours and looks for a handout treat. If she gets nothing she comes back home knowing who will care for her and give her a home where is is safe and cared for. Those millions who love him, only do so for the treats they hope to get. 10k handout is the same, if they don't get it they will look elsewhere.

[IamNoone88]

As a very wise and senior Thai person once told me, "the Government is not here to particularly help us, infact they will throw many road blocks in the way of our progress. We cannot control that and our job is to find a way through them and make the best of it." Words to that effect. We have no influence over the affairs of inmate Thaksin. As distasteful as it may seem, it is irrelevant. What influence he may wield during and after his release is of no concern ... we will adapt and whatever happens, I suggest we all figure out how to make the best progress we can.

[Dave1954]

Thaksin Shinawatra returned to his motherland by a private jet on August 22nd of last year, the Thai public has only had brief glimpses of him.

 

 

 

It would be nice to get to glimpse of him on his way back to jail

But don't hold your breath

Edited January 10 by Dave1954

[scorecard]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

If he is a pig.....what kind of animal are you? Just a friend asked me😁

I'm convinced nobody should addressed with any of those gutter language words. Maybe Thaksin is not your favourite politician, but he is part of society, beloved by millions of Thai people still. You can criticise him, but please articulate yourself in a proper human being language. Thank you.🙏

He's a greedy pig, all acceptabe English language.

[rtco]

Oh for goodness sake what a whinging load of keyboard warriors but then that's nothing unusual for AN is it? Nothing better to do with your time I guess. I couldn't give a hoot. Learn to live with the law (or non-law) of the land. You are here on a Visa which entitles you to stay for as long as it lets you. Why worry about Thai politics, it's not going to change anytime soon. So go sit in your favourite bar, with a bottle in one hand and whatever else in the other, and just let the time while away the time until you meet your maker. It's not worth getting all up-tight about something that ain't your concern.

[AustinRacing]

Interesting how fatangs’ blood boils over such matters while the majority of Thais consider this a non-issue. 

[tanner]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

If he is a pig.....what kind of animal are you? Just a friend asked me😁

I'm convinced nobody should addressed with any of those gutter language words. Maybe Thaksin is not your favourite politician, but he is part of society, beloved by millions of Thai people still. You can criticise him, but please articulate yourself in a proper human being language. Thank you.🙏

But he's only being offensive to pigs !!.

[Fairynuff]

So “stirring up” is a new euphemism for controlling.

[kennw]

4 hours ago, geisha said:

I really don’t know why you all keep getting  exasperated, upset, infuriated by this story, which has been beaten to death over 5 months.

When he announced his return , it was a given that it was planned well in advance and that he wouldn’t be imprisoned.  It was planned by the government .

Thaksin is a billionaire in his own right, he was Prime Minister, not a common thief or murderer who was going to sit in jail. Yes, he’s been ill before returning to Thailand . 

By the way, Happy Birthday MR Thaksin  !! 

 

Hi is a common thief and maybe you dont understand that when you are convicted under Thai Law or any other countries law, you are expected to pay the penalty.

[digger70]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The regulation was not designed specifically to benefit Thaksin, but all qualified convicts. Prison is not a place in which to kill or torture convicts and any inmate who is ill is entitled to be treated in a hospital outside the prison”, claimed Justice Minister Tawee Sodsong during his address to parliament last week, as part of the debate on the government’s budget bill.

So he says, But He doesn't say  Who  says who is a  Qualified con is and who makes the call to say who qualifies.

[billd766]

15 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

The only thing he will foster is a civil war, they should have never let him come back, especially with this joke of justice portrayal. His so called imprisonment is just a reminder of how the Elite are immune from true justice, while poor peasants linger in a real jail environment for much pettier offenses.

Yet you don't seem to be concerned in the slightest that every general involved in every military coup is walking around completely unpunished for committing treason against the state. In fact Prayuth is now a member of the Privy council. How about that as a punishment?

 

There will NEVER be "true justice" in Thailand as long as any military person is involved in the government.

 

BTW what is your version of "true justice" in Thailand?

 

Does that include overthrowing the civilian government elected in a vote by the Thai people?

[scorecard]

3 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

If he is a pig.....what kind of animal are you? Just a friend asked me😁

I'm convinced nobody should addressed with any of those gutter language words. Maybe Thaksin is not your favourite politician, but he is part of society, beloved by millions of Thai people still. You can criticise him, but please articulate yourself in a proper human being language. Thank you.🙏

You might like to look back at the names the paymaster has used on others in the past.

 

Just one example, at a press conference (when he was PM) an international reporter asked him an awkward question, the paymasters response was to yell at the reporter 'IDIOT SCUM' and walk away.

[lordgrinz]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Does that include overthrowing the civilian government elected in a vote by the Thai people?

 

What elected government? The government was put in place by an unelected group of senators. The people voted for MFP, and your savior Thaksin's party sabotaged the MFP by joining the Junta in a hostile takeover, backstabbing the peoples elected choice.

[Dogmatix]

15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If there would be any courageous journalists in Thailand, then they could report about many other sick prisoners.

How many seriously ill prisoners are there in Thailand? Under which conditions do they live? Do they get proper treatment?

And then compare the hundreds or thousands of seriously ill prisoners with the VIP prisoner.

 

And maybe even compare medial treatment of normal Thais, who are not in prison, to the VIP guy. How many seriously sick people are transported per helicopter to a specialist in the middle of the night? 

 

Most are subject to abuse and left to die in the overcrowded cells.

[Jonathan Swift]

15 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

If there would be any courageous journalists in Thailand, then they could report about many other sick prisoners.

How many seriously ill prisoners are there in Thailand? Under which conditions do they live? Do they get proper treatment?

And then compare the hundreds or thousands of seriously ill prisoners with the VIP prisoner.

 

And maybe even compare medial treatment of normal Thais, who are not in prison, to the VIP guy. How many seriously sick people are transported per helicopter to a specialist in the middle of the night? 

If you want to meet courageous journalists I suggest you attend an event at the Foreign Correspondent's Club of Thailand. There are in fact quite a few, including a Thai woman who sustained a lacerated eyeball from a broken bottle tossed at her by Thai police while she was covering a protest with her press ID clearly visible. I met and spoke with her in person. The problem is not the existence of courageous journalists, the problem is where they are getting published or suppressed. You won't find quality reporting in this amateurish tabloid. They absolutely butchered a story I gave to them a few years ago. 

[billd766]

3 hours ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Keep licking those boots.

Just keep insulting posters that don't agree with you.

 

After all, you are a self titled "Lord" and you obviously know far more about Thaksin, the Thai people, Thai government and everything else Thai.

 

I wonder why you have not taken Thai nationality as well, then you could vote, be elected as PM and run the country your own way.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, kennw said:

Hi is a common thief and maybe you dont understand that when you are convicted under Thai Law or any other countries law, you are expected to pay the penalty.

So why have NO generals paid the penalty for treason against the elected government when they call a military coup?

[OneMoreFarang]

30 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

If you want to meet courageous journalists I suggest you attend an event at the Foreign Correspondent's Club of Thailand. There are in fact quite a few, including a Thai woman who sustained a lacerated eyeball from a broken bottle tossed at her by Thai police while she was covering a protest with her press ID clearly visible. I met and spoke with her in person. The problem is not the existence of courageous journalists, the problem is where they are getting published or suppressed. You won't find quality reporting in this amateurish tabloid. They absolutely butchered a story I gave to them a few years ago. 

Yes, I understand that there are good reasons for journalists to think twice what they research and publish. They all want to live another day, just like all of us. 

[billd766]

49 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

What elected government? The government was put in place by an unelected group of senators. The people voted for MFP, and your savior Thaksin's party sabotaged the MFP by joining the Junta in a hostile takeover, backstabbing the peoples elected choice.

Nice try but no cigar. I was talking about the 2005/06 Thaksin government  but it applies to EVERY legally elected civilian government.

 

AFAIK the MFP has never been in government. Granted they won the most seats at the last election, but they could not cobble together enough seats and votes to form a government, therefore the next party with the second highest number of seats was offered the opportunity, exactly according to the Thai laws. 

 

Exactly why neither of them compromised enough to join up I have no idea, but is a Thai problem. Not mine and not yours either.

 

[scorecard]

6 hours ago, geisha said:

I really don’t know why you all keep getting  exasperated, upset, infuriated by this story, which has been beaten to death over 5 months.

When he announced his return , it was a given that it was planned well in advance and that he wouldn’t be imprisoned.  It was planned by the government .

Thaksin is a billionaire in his own right, he was Prime Minister, not a common thief or murderer who was going to sit in jail. Yes, he’s been ill before returning to Thailand . 

By the way, Happy Birthday MR Thaksin  !! 

 

 

Yes he is a common thief.

[lordgrinz]

4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Nice try but no cigar. I was talking about the 2005/06 Thaksin government  but it applies to EVERY legally elected civilian government.

 

AFAIK the MFP has never been in government. Granted they won the most seats at the last election, but they could not cobble together enough seats and votes to form a government, therefore the next party with the second highest number of seats was offered the opportunity, exactly according to the Thai laws. 

 

Exactly why neither of them compromised enough to join up I have no idea, but is a Thai problem. Not mine and not yours either.

 

 

Oh yes, we all knew your were talking about a government from almost 20 years ago....smh

 

Enough seats? You mean they didn't get 250 votes from the handpicked Junta Senate? Baffling.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, AustinRacing said:

Interesting how fatangs’ blood boils over such matters while the majority of Thais consider this a non-issue. 

No the majority of Thais don't consider this a non-issue.

 

Some members of my Thai family, my old work colleagues and many of my old students are discussing it regularly.

 

My 17 yo uni student granddaughter tells me it's on the discussion agency for many kids her age and they know what they are talking about. 

 

MFP / K. Pita is very much on their minds as the only step forward.

[FarangJon]

Welcome back to LOS Land of scam. Well done. One night in prison and soon political puppeteers in the background. Chinese gangster Thaksin. 

[billd766]

15 minutes ago, lordgrinz said:

 

Oh yes, we all knew your were talking about a government from almost 20 years ago....smh

 

Enough seats? You mean they didn't get 250 votes from the handpicked Junta Senate? Baffling.

Read the constitution of Thailand.

 

I didn't write it, and if you have a problem with it then I suggest that you get the law changed.

 

Far better people than you have tried and failed, but go ahead and give it your best shot.

[AustinRacing]

34 minutes ago, scorecard said:

No the majority of Thais don't consider this a non-issue.

 

Some members of my Thai family, my old work colleagues and many of my old students are discussing it regularly.

 

My 17 yo uni student granddaughter tells me it's on the discussion agency for many kids her age and they know what they are talking about. 

 

MFP / K. Pita is very much on their minds as the only step forward.

Proof that majority don’t give a toss is obvious as nothing is being done the populace 

[off road pat]

8 hours ago, ezzra said:

I'm more interested to find out how, when and where he's going to insert himself into Thai politics again as I'm sure that this is

his final goal, to be number one again, (well, number 2)...

Number 1,...Behind the scenes,....but still nr. 1

[thailand49]

I thought he was sick. Is police Hospital now the PM office🤣🤔