2023 confirmed as world's hottest year on record

[nauseus]

1 hour ago, Robert Paulson said:

It’s so hot and the glaciers are obviously melting at unprecedented rates and yet in hua hin the high tide comes to the exact same spot as it always did

 

And I think to myself

What a wonderful world.

 

Oh yeah!

[candide]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

If the Global western Marxist can figure out a way to protest& riot in unison with the Chinese Communist People on their turf, it would significantly improve the Climate Change accountability factor .That will be a sight to see until then , keep on living your life .

1. China, with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released.
2. https://climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/

Lol! It's one of the two most populated countries in the world.

If you compare emissions per Capita, the Marxist (so to say) China emissions per capita are half those of the Capitalist USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

[nauseus]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

Lol! It's one of the two most populated countries in the world.

If you compare emissions per Capita, the Marxist (so to say) China emissions per capita are half those of the Capitalist USA.

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

 

I see. The per capita qualifier is OK to use now.

[candide]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

 

I see. The per capita qualifier is OK to use now.

When did I ever claime per capita qualifier was not oK?

[digger70]

19 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Is this a religious belief, or do you have access to scientific data that the rest of us don't have?

Yes , It's a natural  phenomena, It's been happening for Many thousands of years.

[ozimoron]

5 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Yes , It's a natural  phenomena, It's been happening for Many thousands of years.

 

The natural changes do take that long. We are seeing similar changes in less than a century. The long term changes due to natural cycles take 100's of thousands of years. We are seeing catastrophic changes in less than a hundred years.

[digger70]

1 minute ago, ozimoron said:

 

The natural changes do take that long. We are seeing similar changes in less than a century. The long term changes due to natural cycles take 100's of thousands of years. We are seeing catastrophic changes in less than a hundred years.

So what. the Quicker it get's warmer the sooner it will cool down , Maybe in the next Ten Years Who Knows .

You see No one Knows for sure .

It won't happen overnight but it will happen

[digger70]

20 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

Your basis for this fairy tale is the bible I assume? Or social networks? You haven't posted a link. How unsurprising.

There's no need for a link Because there's No 100% Proof  For the global Warming Caused by People Only Speculating and Scaremongering.

You believe what you like and i believe what I think is true.

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, novacova said:

Good grief, another graph. There is no proof that the use of carbon by humans causes climate disruption. 

I will assume that you slept through science classes in school, because your post contains some very looney assertions.

 

Okay, I will try to educate, I hope you are willing to learn. I will do this step by step, to make it easy.

 

The amount of CO2 in the lower atmosphere has increased from 280 parts per million to 400+ ppm over the last 40 years. Do you disagree?

 

The percentage of this increase in CO2 caused by human production is known, due to isotopic analysis (artificially generated CO2 has a different chemical composition than naturally produced CO2). Do you disagree?

 

Furthermore, the amount of CO2 produced by humans is known, and correlates with measurements of artificial CO2 in the atmosphere. This artificial CO2 production correlates with the overall increase in atmospheric CO2.

 

The impact of CO2 on temperature has been known for 200 years. More CO2 = higher atmospheric temperatures. Do you disagree?

 

Therefore, human production of CO2 is increasing atmospheric temperatures.

 

Here's a bonus question for you: why have stratospheric temperatures decreased over the last 40 years?

[ozimoron]

25 minutes ago, digger70 said:

There's no need for a link Because there's No 100% Proof  For the global Warming Caused by People Only Speculating and Scaremongering.

You believe what you like and i believe what I think is true.

 

There's 2 main pieces of evidence

 

1. An absolute correlation between the percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere and atmospheric temperatures.

 

2. That humans have increased that level from about 150 ppm to over 400 ppm in the space of a century or so. The highest level it's been for about a million years. 

Edited January 11 by ozimoron

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, novacova said:

 The changes of gravity that affects the earth in the solar constellation and solar activity over the eons have caused more climate fluctuations than what any human activity has caused. 

If you can describe these "changes in gravity" and how they impact climate, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.

[gamb00ler]

19 hours ago, stevenl said:

You're right in one thing, overpopulation is a major cause of manmade climate change.

For sure you're right.... if Earth's population was only a few hundred thousand, there wouldn't be any noticeable man made climate change.  Let's give every soul a sequentially numbered lotto ticket and those that don't end in

29864718

must commit suicide.

[Danderman123]

27 minutes ago, digger70 said:

There's no need for a link Because there's No 100% Proof  For the global Warming Caused by People Only Speculating and Scaremongering.

You believe what you like and i believe what I think is true.

Science is the best possible explanation, regardless of whether you flunked Science in school or not.

[gamb00ler]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

If you can describe these "changes in gravity" and how they impact climate, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.

yeah.... a smidgeon of science "knowledge" makes some think they can have a worthwhile/informed opinion.

[ozimoron]

Just now, gamb00ler said:

yeah.... a smidgeon of science "knowledge" makes some think they can have a worthwhile/informed opinion.

 

and none at all makes some think the same thing.

[connda]

On 1/10/2024 at 8:43 AM, CharlieH said:

The year 2023 has been confirmed as the warmest on record, driven by human-caused climate change and boosted by the natural El Niño weather event.

Bravo Sierra.  Ice core samples and paleo-climatology tell a different story. 

Remember:  Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear.  Fearful people are easily manipulated.

[Danderman123]

34 minutes ago, digger70 said:

So what. the Quicker it get's warmer the sooner it will cool down , Maybe in the next Ten Years Who Knows .

You see No one Knows for sure .

It won't happen overnight but it will happen

If you can explain this "warm up, cool down" scenario, there's a Nobel Prize waiting for you.

 

In any situation where there is a constant heat input (the Sun), and CO2 is fed into the system at increasing amounts, what provokes a cool down?

 

 

[Danderman123]

2 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

yeah.... a smidgeon of science "knowledge" makes some think they can have a worthwhile/informed opinion.

In this case, the smidgeon is provided via talking points issued by the Climate Change Denier lobby.

[Danderman123]

51 minutes ago, digger70 said:

Yes , It's a natural  phenomena, It's been happening for Many thousands of years.

What natural forces are causing the current global warming?

 

I am asking because the people who sent you that talking point have never explained the mechanism behind these "natural forces". Some of their victims flail about when asked this, and make the guess that it's the Sun, but solar output has reduced a little lately. So it's not the Sun.

 

You've been conned by the Climate Change Denier lobby, which funds online trolls to fool you.

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, connda said:

Bravo Sierra.  Ice core samples and paleo-climatology tell a different story. 

Remember:  Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear.  Fearful people are easily manipulated.

 

millions of years ago yes. long before god created man. long before man set foot on earth.

 

Geologists and paleontologists have found that, in the last 100 million years, global temperatures have peaked twice. One spike was the Cretaceous Hot Greenhouse roughly 92 million years ago, about 25 million years before Earth’s last dinosaurs went extinct. Widespread volcanic activity may have boosted atmospheric carbon dioxide. Temperatures were so high that champsosaurs (crocodile-like reptiles) lived as far north as the Canadian Arctic, and warm-temperature forests thrived near the South Pole.

 

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-hottest-earths-ever-been

Edited January 11 by ozimoron

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, Robert Paulson said:

It’s so hot and the glaciers are obviously melting at unprecedented rates and yet in hua hin the high tide comes to the exact same spot as it always did

Your personal observations do not coincide with actual reality.

 

Bangkok is sinking and rising sea levels from climate change could threaten the homes of its 11 million people

 

 

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, connda said:

Bravo Sierra.  Ice core samples and paleo-climatology tell a different story. 

Remember:  Fear Fear Fear Fear Fear.  Fearful people are easily manipulated.

Do you have any actual data that contradicts the reality that the atmosphere is warming due to human produced CO2?

[JackGats]

11 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

No impact by earthquakes on global warming.

 

Volcanoes have a minor cooling function due to emissions of silicon dioxide.

No. Sulfur dioxide. Silica get spewed by volcanos but t is not a gas.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, JackGats said:

No. Sulfur dioxide. Silica get spewed by volcanos but t is not a gas.

 

I believe it's ash that causes the temporary cooling effect of volcanoes.

[Danderman123]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

I believe it's ash that causes the temporary cooling effect of volcanoes.

Ash and Sulphur dioxide.

[JackGats]

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Ash and Sulphur dioxide.

Ash settles quickly. Short-term effect. SO2 lingers. Silica-rich volcanic ash produces rocks like pumice and tuff.

 

Anyway it's all CO2 these days. The rest of geology is only for college.

[Danderman123]

17 minutes ago, JackGats said:

Ash settles quickly. Short-term effect. SO2 lingers. Silica-rich volcanic ash produces rocks like pumice and tuff.

 

Anyway it's all CO2 these days. The rest of geology is only for college.

You are correct.

 

The impact on the atmosphere of a single volcanic eruption is trivial and short term.

[Danderman123]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

True to form, you have missed "the point", again...

 

When Bill Gates buys oceanside property, takes private jets everywhere and owns a fleet of cars it makes me wonder how seriously he is taking the "climate emergency". It's almost as if he knows it's all a load of <deleted>. When Harry flies a private jet to a polo game from his 16 bathroom mansion and gets picked up by a fleet of Range Rovers, it's almost as if he knows it's all a load of <deleted>. 

 

So if these people do not see the need to change their behaviour, with all their superior knowledge and virtue, it stands to reason that neither do I.

 

 

The behavior of Bill Gates does not negate the reality of Science.

 

Your position is like saying "X person eats all sorts of junk food, therefore junk food cannot be bad for you. The doctors are all wrong".

[cmjl]

56 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The behavior of Bill Gates does not negate the reality of Science.

 

Your position is like saying "X person eats all sorts of junk food, therefore junk food cannot be bad for you. The doctors are all wrong".

You may pontificate all you like but as long as people inhabit this earth and want the latest technology etc nothing will change.The sheer hypocrisy of doom and gloom merchants knows no bounds.

[Danderman123]

7 minutes ago, cmjl said:

You may pontificate all you like but as long as people inhabit this earth and want the latest technology etc nothing will change.The sheer hypocrisy of doom and gloom merchants knows no bounds.

Atmospheric physics is real, regardless of how people deal with it.

 

The planet is warming, and unless something different happens, we are going to have to deal with the consequences. Unlike Elon Musk, we can't all go live on Mars if the Earth gets too warming.