G_Money Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Damaged goods Pot calling the kettle black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, sirineou said: I am almost sure , I said " Never without consents!" So when they consent, you grab their pussy. Trump did say they let him, yes? Does the not indicate consent? 13 minutes ago, sirineou said: Much different than "Objectifying " women which is what your boy did. How is it different? Trump said it in a private conversation. 13 minutes ago, sirineou said: Then I am sure you would not someone grabbing them , without their concent. That is correct. 13 minutes ago, sirineou said: But you would like a fat creep like trump sticking his hand in their.....? You are not being intellectually honest, because I Know you would not. Nice try by the way trying to change the subject. So if they were a thin creep it would be better? As far as I know, Trump said women let celebrities do what they want. 13 minutes ago, sirineou said: What??? what is pathetic is excusing a creep like trump for for inexcusable behavior, and if you think that by me saying that if something like what we are talking happened to me and mine, then my friend me and you have a different definition of what pathetic is. Where I come from we call someone like that a "stand UP man" Big difference being a "womanizer" and being a creep. But if you are saying that just because he was a creep all his life, he should be excused now........................ You see him as a creep, I don't. I hate a lot of things he says and does, but I don't find him creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: Another liar that has to edit posts. During this conversation you have called me a liar , and implied that I was "pathetic" . If I might be so forward as to offer you the advice to stay away from personal attacks and concentrate on the issue at hand. At no time did I edit any of your posts, such offend would be reportable and could result in my suspension . I would hope every man had the opportunity to grab some pussy at least one time. BUT WITH THE PERSONS CONCENT. trump said: " I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," Trump says on the tape" "Grab them by the p----," Trump says. "You can do anything. " What we are talking about here is uncongenial. Trump did say "I don't even wait," " End of story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: So when they consent, you grab their pussy. Trump did say they let him, yes? Does the not indicate consent? No it does not. If someone does not fight rape , is it not rape? Me said "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," " what does he not wait for? a Breath mint? surgical gloves? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 15 minutes ago, sirineou said: No it does not. If someone does not fight rape , is it not rape? Me said "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," " what does he not wait for? a Breath mint? surgical gloves? Do you have a link to the recoding? I would like to hear it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Do you have a link to the recoding? I would like to hear it. First of all, don't you think it would had been a good idea to do that before you started arguing in defence of it? but better late than never, easy enough to find, Google and YouTube is you friend. Edited January 30 by sirineou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 43 minutes ago, sirineou said: First of all, don't you think it would had been a good idea to do that before you started arguing in defence of it? but better late than never, easy enough to find, Google and YouTube is you friend. I have heard it, but because it's been years, I'd like to hear it again. I am not defending him saying it, it just does not seem like a braggadocios womanizer bragging about how easy it is to womanize when you're rich and famous as that big a deal to me. A President getting caught on a hot mike making a deal with Putin until after his election seems like a lot bigger deal to me, but then I'm not a leftist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Yeah, I just listened to it, and read the transcript, just seems like a braggart to me. No doubt the end of democracy to you. Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women - The New York Times (nytimes.com) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Yellowtail said: Yeah, I just listened to it, and read the transcript, just seems like a braggart to me. No doubt the end of democracy to you. Transcript: Donald Trump’s Taped Comments About Women - The New York Times (nytimes.com) His issues with women are a different issue than his threat to the future of American democracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I am not defending him saying it, it just does not seem like a braggadocios womanizer bragging about how easy it is to womanize when you're rich and famous as that big a deal to me. to me it sounds like how easy it is to get over people when you are a star/ 13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: A President getting caught on a hot mike making a deal with Putin until after his election seems like a lot bigger deal to me, but then I'm not a leftist. and there you go trying to change the subject. what does what "a president' did or did no do in Russia has to do with what we are talking about? I'll tell you what .NOTHING !! Regarders if you were a leftist it a rightist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Yeah, I just listened to it, and read the transcript, just seems like a braggart to me. No doubt the end of democracy to you. Who said anything about ending democracy? there is only one question I have from you Do you condemn sexual contact with someone without their consent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 57 minutes ago, sirineou said: Who said anything about ending democracy? I seem to hear all the time the electing Trump will mark the end of democracy, no> 57 minutes ago, sirineou said: there is only one question I have from you Do you condemn sexual contact with someone without their consent? I absolutely condemn sexual contact with someone without their consent, and I do have any reason to believe Trump participates or condones sexual contact with someone without their consent. Certainly nothing in the audio or transcript would lead me to believe otherwise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, sirineou said: to me it sounds like how easy it is to get over people when you are a star/ I do not understand what you mean by the above. 1 hour ago, sirineou said: and there you go trying to change the subject. what does what "a president' did or did no do in Russia has to do with what we are talking about? I'll tell you what .NOTHING !! Regarders if you were a leftist it a rightist. Go it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I absolutely condemn sexual contact with someone without their consent, Then what we disagree on is if it was consensual or not 15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: do have any reason to believe Trump participates or condones sexual contact with someone without their consent Then what do you think he did not wait for when he said "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," Trump says on the tape" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) who mentioned Trumps was corrupt ?? Edited January 30 by stats trolling meme removed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 hours ago, Yellowtail said: Do you have a link to the recoding? I would like to hear it. So you haven't heard the recording (or you can't remember it), but you waste our time defending what Trump said? Or are you just trolling? Google is your friend, go look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 hours ago, sirineou said: Then what we disagree on is if it was consensual or not Then what do you think he did not wait for when he said "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," Trump says on the tape" If what was consensual, Trump talking to another guy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 52 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: So you haven't heard the recording (or you can't remember it), but you waste our time defending what Trump said? Or are you just trolling? Google is your friend, go look it up. Did you not see this post of mine hours ago where I said I listened to it and read it an posted the link? Try to follow along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 So, what block of new voters is Trump going to win in 2024? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Did you not see this post of mine hours ago where I said I listened to it and read it an posted the link? Try to follow along. And you still support Trump after listening to that pervert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 hours ago, sirineou said: Then what we disagree on is if it was consensual or not Then what do you think he did not wait for when he said "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait," Trump says on the tape" You are misquoting. You really should read the transcript. Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." They let you do it. Hmmmm, sounds consensual, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: And you still support Trump after listening to that pervert? You should read it too. Incidentally, how many women have you bragged about banging? Oh, but that's okay, because you pay them and then start a thread dedicated to your bragging, calling them stupid and degrading them. Real classy you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: You should read it too. Incidentally, how many women have you bragged about banging? Oh, but that's okay, because you pay them and then start a thread dedicated to your bragging, calling them stupid and degrading them. Real classy you are. It's called "consent". It seems you don't understand that concept, which is why you defend Trump's rape of Ms. Carroll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: You are misquoting. You really should read the transcript. Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." They let you do it. Hmmmm, sounds consensual, no? You continually forget the "I don't ask them first" part. In other words, Trump doesn't worry about consent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 34 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: It's called "consent". It seems you don't understand that concept, which is why you defend Trump's rape of Ms. Carroll. You're lying again. I never defended Trump raping her. I stated clearly that I support the death penalty for forcibly rape, and if he forcibly raped her, I would support his being executed. What I said was, I do not believe the woman. I think she made it up. That is not defending him raping her. Even the jury said they did not believe he raped her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 41 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You continually forget the "I don't ask them first" part. In other words, Trump doesn't worry about consent. You continually forget that this was just talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: You are misquoting. You really should read the transcript. Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." They let you do it. Hmmmm, sounds consensual, no? " Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321 "And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Using a position of power to intimidate. But I ask you a question three or four times and each time you sidestep it and try to change the subject as I am sure you will this time also. "Just kiss. I don't even wait " what don't he ever wait for? a breath mint? Bush:"Whatever you want?" Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." . What do you think he meant by "I don't even wait " what did he not have to wait for? Consent? a breath mint? the weather to get better? It seems like you left something out . " Edited January 30 by sirineou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, sirineou said: " Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321 "And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Using a position of power to intimidate. But I ask you a question three or four times and each time you sidestep it and try to change the subject as I am sure you will this time also. "Just kiss. I don't even wait " what don't he ever wait for? a breath mint? Bush:"Whatever you want?" Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." . What do you think he meant by "I don't even have to wait " what did he not have to wait for? Consent? a breath mint? the weather to get better? It seems like you left something out . " So, you think talking is a crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, sirineou said: " Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321 "And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Using a position of power to intimidate. But I ask you a question three or four times and each time you sidestep it and try to change the subject as I am sure you will this time also. "Just kiss. I don't even wait " what don't he ever wait for? a breath mint? Bush:"Whatever you want?" Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." . What do you think he meant by "I don't even have to wait " what did he not have to wait for? Consent? a breath mint? the weather to get better? It seems like you left something out . " Unknown: "She used to be great, she's still very beautiful." Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and <deleted> her, she was married." Unknown: "That's huge news there." Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look." Bush: "Your girl's hot as <deleted>. In the purple." Multiple voices: "Whoah. Yes. Whoah." Bush: "Yes. The Donald has scored. Whoah my man." Trump: "Look at you. You are a pussy." Bush: "You gotta get the thumbs up." Trump: "Maybe it's a different one." Bush: "It better not be the publicist. No, it's, it's her." Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Bush: "Yeah those legs. All I can see is the legs." Trump: "It looks good." Bush: "Come on shorty." Trump: "Oh nice legs huh." Bush: "Get out of the way honey. Oh that's good legs. Go ahead." Trump: "It's always good if you don't fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember?" [As Mr Trump attempts to leave the vehicle he struggles with the door] Bush: "Down below, pull the handle." [Mr Trump exits the bus and greets actress Arianne Zucker] Trump: "Hello, how are you? Hi." Zucker: "Hi Mr Trump. How are you?" Trump: "Nice seeing you. Terrific. Terrific. You know Billy Bush?" Bush: "Hello nice to see you. How are you doing Arianne?" Zucker: "I'm doing very well thank you. [Addressing Trump] Are you ready to be a soap star?" Trump: "We're ready. Let's go. Make me a soap star." Bush: "How about a little hug for the Donald, he's just off the bus?" Zucker: "Would you like a little hug darling?" Trump: "Absolutely. Melania said this was okay." Bush: "How about a little hug for the Bushy, I just got off the bus? Here we go, here we go. Excellent." [Mr Bush gesticulates towards Ms Zucker as he turns to Mr Trump] Bush: "Well you've got a good co-star here." Trump: "Good. After you. Come on Billy, don't be shy." Bush: "Soon as a beautiful woman shows up he just, he takes off. This always happens." Trump: "Get over here, Billy." Zucker: "I'm sorry, come here." Bush: "Let the little guy in there. Come on." Zucker: "Yeah, let the little guy in. How you feel now, better? I should actually be in the middle." Bush: "It's hard to walk next to a guy like this." Zucker: "Wait. Hold on." [Ms Zucker changes position and walks between the two men] Bush: "Yeah you get in the middle. There we go." Trump: "Good. That's better." Zucker: "This is much better." Trump: "That's better." Bush: "Now if you had to choose, honestly, between one of us. Me or the Donald, who would it be?" Trump: "I don't know, that's tough competition." Zucker: "That's some pressure right there." Bush: "Seriously, you had to take one of us as a date." Zucker: "I have to take the Fifth [Amendment of the US Constitution] on that one." Bush: "Really?" Zucker: "Yep. I'll take both." [They reach the end of the corridor] Trump: "Which way?" Zucker: "Make a right. Here we go." Bush: "Here he goes. I'm gonna leave you here. Give me my microphone." Trump: "Okay. Okay. Oh, you're finished?" Bush: "You're my man. Yeah." Trump: "Oh. Good." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: So, you think talking is a crime? just what I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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