Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Stop being so ridiculous , I never suggested any such thing and you are making false allegations. I believe that you are just trolling me know , I said that the trial should be delayed , I didn't say that it should be postponed "Trump's trials should be delayed until after the election" and "no one is above the law" are what is called "mutually exclusive" thoughts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: "Trump's trials should be delayed until after the election" and "no one is above the law" are what is called "mutually exclusive" thoughts. Delaying a trial wouldn't mean that anyone's above the law , trials often get delated for various reasons 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 39 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Delaying a trial wouldn't mean that anyone's above the law , trials often get delated for various reasons The fact that he is trying to take power again after resisting a peaceful transition of power last time is the reason why trials should NOT be delayed before the election. The people deserve to know the verdicts. At this point they won't get all of them, but maybe they will get one or two. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: The fact that he is trying to take power again after resisting a peaceful transition of power last time is the reason why trials should NOT be delayed before the election. The people deserve to know the verdicts. At this point they won't get all of them, but maybe they will get one or two. If people are still going to vote for him after the Jan 6 th rebellion , I doubt that they will change their mind because on the Mar le go documents 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Delaying a trial wouldn't mean that anyone's above the law , trials often get delated for various reasons You want the trial delayed because Trump is special. He's not like another defendants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You want the trial delayed because Trump is special. He's not like another defendants. Not just Trump, I think that any person running for presidency should have any trials put back until after the elections , just to stop anyone just bringing Court cases to stop them campaigning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Not just Trump, I think that any person running for presidency should have any trials put back until after the elections , just to stop anyone just bringing Court cases to stop them campaigning You just defined special people as "anyone running for presidency" who has been indicted. When your special consideration only extends to one person on the planet, they are indeed special. So, "no one is above the law" except that one special person. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Delaying a trial wouldn't mean that anyone's above the law , trials often get delayed for various reasons Delayed, not delated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: You just defined special people as "anyone running for presidency" who has been indicted. When your special consideration only extends to one person on the planet, they are indeed special. So, "no one is above the law" except that one special person. I am quite sure that there is more than just one person running for Presidency and I am also quite certain that people other than Trump will be running for Presidency in the future . So "anyone running for presidency" , that rule would be across the board, for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 36 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: If people are still going to vote for him after the Jan 6 th rebellion , I doubt that they will change their mind because on the Mar le go documents That's one case. Polls show a significant percentage of independents say they won't vote for him if a convicted felon. Maybe they're lying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 14 Popular Post Share Posted February 14 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: I am quite sure that there is more than just one person running for Presidency and I am also quite certain that people other than Trump will be running for Presidency in the future . So "anyone running for presidency" , that rule would be across the board, for everyone You're not fooling anyone. You're advocating for Trump. That's your right but acting like you're not makes you disingenuous. Edited February 14 by Jingthing 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 25 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: I am quite sure that there is more than just one person running for Presidency and I am also quite certain that people other than Trump will be running for Presidency in the future . So "anyone running for presidency" , that rule would be across the board, for everyone and you will totally forget about your rule after this election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: That's one case. Polls show a significant percentage of independents say they won't vote for him if a convicted felon. Maybe they're lying. As always, I have to state that early polls are not very accurate. Having said that, common sense indicates that some voters will be biased against voting for a felon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: As always, I have to state that early polls are not very accurate. Having said that, common sense indicates that some voters will be biased against voting for a felon. Or more likely to not vote at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 In a perfect world, Trump's lawyers will delay cases long enough that a guilty verdict comes in on November 1, or just before the election. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 19 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You're not fooling anyone. You're advocating for Trump. That's your right but acting like you're not makes you disingenuous. I am not trying to fool anyone , I have the opinion that anyone running for Presidency should have any Court cases delayed until after the elections and that rule should be for everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: These are forums, I doubt that my opinion is going to "destroy America" 🙂 It won’t it’s just a foreigner casting stones at the USA and it shows who you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 7 minutes ago, Tug said: It won’t it’s just a foreigner casting stones at the USA and it shows who you are A Russian spy ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 14 Popular Post Share Posted February 14 39 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: I am not trying to fool anyone , I have the opinion that anyone running for Presidency should have any Court cases delayed until after the elections and that rule should be for everyone I don't believe you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I don't believe you. OK, You think that I want law that only applies to Donald Trump and no one else ? That's OK, you can think that if you want 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bubblegum Posted February 14 Popular Post Share Posted February 14 Every man who has been married for a very long time won't debate his wife. It is not worth the energy. Same as trying to talk to those Trumpers folks. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubblegum Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 BTW do MAGA folks talk louder when they are not in the comfort of their owns ? Just like Americans do when holidaying in non English speaking countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 9 minutes ago, bubblegum said: Every man who has been married for a very long time won't debate his wife. It is not worth the energy. Same as trying to talk to those Trumpers folks. Do you think that there may be something wrong with Biden's conduct , or are you stubbornly denying that he is getting rather old and forgetful ? (Just like Wives and Trumpers do ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Do you think that there may be something wrong with Biden's conduct , or are you stubbornly denying that he is getting rather old and forgetful ? (Just like Wives and Trumpers do ) Questions about age, cognition, and being fit for the job of president are relevant for BOTH Biden and Trump. But at the end of the day pro democracy anti fascist dictatorship Americans would vote for a rutabaga over treasonous Trump. The system can deal with a rutabaga. The system has proved incapable of dealing with Trump. No I'm not saying that Biden is a rutabaga. It is a pity though that Trump isn't a rutabaga because like I said the system can deal with a rutabaga. Edited February 14 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 hours ago, heybruce said: willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it You mean like joe did until he got caught out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyExpat57 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: I’ll say this now and you can hold me to it. I will accept the verdicts in the criminal trials against Trump, whatever the verdicts turn out to be. Feel free to make such a clear statement yourself. Here's the difference: If the snake wriggles out of the vice and is found not guilty, his detractors will cry foul, gnash their teeth, rent their clothes, then leave it at that. If the putrid vermin is found guilty, his supporters will take up arms and start shooting. Perhaps storm the capitol AGAIN. When Jack Smith has to fight so hard to keep the names of witnesses sealed because of fear for what MAGA will do to them - well, you DO see the problem here, yes? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: You mean like joe did until he got caught out As usual, you are misstating the facts. Biden's attorneys conducted a voluntary search, just to make sure that Biden didn't still have any classified documents. When they found some, they alerted the authorities immediately. On the other hand, Trump knew he had classified documents and tried to hide them. The true test of a Trump cult member is if they can't tell the difference between the two cases. A normal person would be amazed at the confusion by the members of the Cult of Trump over the two cases. Edited February 15 by Danderman123 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 Trump has installed his daughter-in-law as Vice Chair of the Republican National Committee. She has already announced that Trump will get the money that the RNC raises. This means the RNC won't be supporting candidates for the Senate and House, as they have in the past. The result is really going to hurt the GOP in November, since much of the money that Trump raises will be used to pay his lawyers. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Trump has installed his daughter-in-law as Vice Chair of the Republican National Committee. She has already announced that Trump will get the money that the RNC raises. This means the RNC won't be supporting candidates for the Senate and House, as they have in the past. The result is really going to hurt the GOP in November, since much of the money that Trump raises will be used to pay his lawyers. The Repubs are both moronic and cowardly. They're afraid of a mean Tweet, so nobody will stand up to trump. trump lost them the House in 2018, the Senate in 2020 and 2022, he personally lost the WH, and he's going to lose them both the House and Senate in November. Perhaps trump realizes his goobers are tapped out, so he's stopped schlepping NFTs and threads from his suits, and just gone straight for the Repub treasure chest to pay his legal bills. With DiL now Vice Chair, he can probably tap the RNC to cover what he owes E Jean Carroll for sexually assaulting and defaming her. Repubs just accept trump's taking all of the Party's money for himself. It looks as if trump also lost them the open House seat in NY, as the Dem candidate scored points on the border issue, while the electorate was aware there's currently no border deal only because trump wants it to remain a campaign issue. Voters want a deal now, not in January, so that took votes away from the R candidate. trump, of course, blamed her, because she was late endorsing him. Nothing is ever trump's fault. I'm sure it was Obama or Biden that made trump an obese slob. Only Nikki has suddenly discovered some cojones, as she realizes her only chance is to discredit him. She (finally) took exception to trump's years of disparaging the military, but only because the fatboy went after her husband, a Major now deployed in the Horn of Africa. She dredged up trump's comments about 'suckers and losers'. Of course Haley waited far too long to go on the counterattack. At least she's got more balls than Ted Cruz, who fully accepted trump calling Cruz's wife ugly. With trump's tiny hands in the Repub cookie jar, candidates for dog catcher in rural America are going to have a bigger war chest than R Senate or House candidates. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: As usual, you are misstating the facts. Biden's attorneys conducted a voluntary search, just to make sure that Biden didn't still have any classified documents. When they found some, they alerted the authorities immediately. On the other hand, Trump knew he had classified documents and tried to hide them. The true test of a Trump cult member is if they can't tell the difference between the two cases. A normal person would be amazed at the confusion by the members of the Cult of Trump over the two cases. Not really... seems that you are misrepresenting what happened... joe's lawyers were packing up contents from a leased and no longer used office of joe's when they discovered classified documents that joe had forgotten and left behind... actually forgot and left behind unsecured classified documents... they did alert the authorities about a week later. Trump did know that he had classified documents that would become part of his legacy library as was done by EVERY president... NARA issues a statement that says: “Throughout the course of the last year, NARA obtained the cooperation of Trump representatives to locate Presidential records that had not been transferred to the National Archives at the end of the Trump administration. When a representative informed NARA in December 2021 that they had located some records, NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington. NARA officials did not visit or ‘raid’ the Mar-a-Lago property.” But lo and behold the DOJ and the fibbers (fbi) under obama (joe) get a warrant and raid mar-a-lago... Timeline of FBI Investigation of Trump's Handling of Highly Classified Documents - FactCheck.org I have to wonder where the NARA...the doj... and fbi were and what they were doing when joe had left unsecured documents lying around in an abandoned office and in his garage for years. Now trump is being criminally prosecuted while joe is not... why... they both had documents that they shouldn't have had... on top of that... joe's were unsecured yet trump's were secured. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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