Danderman123 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 23 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Not really... seems that you are misrepresenting what happened... joe's lawyers were packing up contents from a leased and no longer used office of joe's when they discovered classified documents that joe had forgotten and left behind... actually forgot and left behind unsecured classified documents... they did alert the authorities about a week later. Trump did know that he had classified documents that would become part of his legacy library as was done by EVERY president... NARA issues a statement that says: “Throughout the course of the last year, NARA obtained the cooperation of Trump representatives to locate Presidential records that had not been transferred to the National Archives at the end of the Trump administration. When a representative informed NARA in December 2021 that they had located some records, NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington. NARA officials did not visit or ‘raid’ the Mar-a-Lago property.” But lo and behold the DOJ and the fibbers (fbi) under obama (joe) get a warrant and raid mar-a-lago... Timeline of FBI Investigation of Trump's Handling of Highly Classified Documents - FactCheck.org I have to wonder where the NARA...the doj... and fbi were and what they were doing when joe had left unsecured documents lying around in an abandoned office and in his garage for years. Now trump is being criminally prosecuted while joe is not... why... they both had documents that they shouldn't have had... on top of that... joe's were unsecured yet trump's were secured. I don't know why you write a long post, starting with a lie. Everyone stops reading after the first sentence. On November 2, 2022, Biden's attorneys discovered the first set of classified documents in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center; they reported them that day to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which retrieved them the next day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 26 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Trump did know that he had classified documents that would become part of his legacy library as was done by EVERY president.. Presidents are not allowed under the PRA to retain any official documents. Presidential archives are first placed under control of the National Archives. Trump violated the PRA by taking official documents from the White House to his residence in Florida. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, Danderman123 said: I don't know why you write a long post, starting with a lie. Everyone stops reading after the first sentence. On November 2, 2022, Biden's attorneys discovered the first set of classified documents in a locked closet at the Penn Biden Center; they reported them that day to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which retrieved them the next day. Actually it reads... "Biden provided a few details on how the documents were found, saying that his lawyers were clearing out his office at the Penn Biden Center and discovered the documents in a box and in what he called “a locked cabinet, or at least a closet.” OR AT LEAST A CABINET... he didn't know that the documents were there but according to "lying joe" it was locked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Trump violated the PRA by taking official documents from the White House to his residence in Florida. You are way out of the ballpark on that one... there is no physical residency requirement in the pra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 5 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Actually it reads... "Biden provided a few details on how the documents were found, saying that his lawyers were clearing out his office at the Penn Biden Center and discovered the documents in a box and in what he called “a locked cabinet, or at least a closet.” OR AT LEAST A CABINET... he didn't know that the documents were there but according to "lying joe" it was locked. From the same article: "On November 2, 2022, Joe Biden's personal attorneys found classified documents dating to his vice presidency, some of which were top secret sensitive compartmented information, in a locked closet while packing files at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement, a think tank where Biden worked after leaving the government in 2017." Locked closet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Skipalongcassidy said: You are way out of the ballpark on that one... there is no physical residency requirement in the pra The PRA forbids an outgoing president from taking any official documents anywhere. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Walker88 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Not really... seems that you are misrepresenting what happened... joe's lawyers were packing up contents from a leased and no longer used office of joe's when they discovered classified documents that joe had forgotten and left behind... actually forgot and left behind unsecured classified documents... they did alert the authorities about a week later. Trump did know that he had classified documents that would become part of his legacy library as was done by EVERY president... NARA issues a statement that says: “Throughout the course of the last year, NARA obtained the cooperation of Trump representatives to locate Presidential records that had not been transferred to the National Archives at the end of the Trump administration. When a representative informed NARA in December 2021 that they had located some records, NARA arranged for them to be securely transported to Washington. NARA officials did not visit or ‘raid’ the Mar-a-Lago property.” But lo and behold the DOJ and the fibbers (fbi) under obama (joe) get a warrant and raid mar-a-lago... Timeline of FBI Investigation of Trump's Handling of Highly Classified Documents - FactCheck.org I have to wonder where the NARA...the doj... and fbi were and what they were doing when joe had left unsecured documents lying around in an abandoned office and in his garage for years. Now trump is being criminally prosecuted while joe is not... why... they both had documents that they shouldn't have had... on top of that... joe's were unsecured yet trump's were secured. NARA isn't the agency in charge when highly classified documents are involved. NO docs classified TS, SCI, Codeword, SAP, SITK, HCS or RD will ever be part of trump's "Presidential Library". The reason the FBI got involved because it was brought to their attention the nature of what trump had stolen. NARA people do not have the clearance level to search or retain such documents. It would require a TS/SCI clearance level, and for the RD, a Q clearance. The various agencies have to assume what was in the docs trump stole is compromised. Because he stole some rated HCS, that likely means exfils of clandestine assets in sensitive positions in hostile nations. Perhaps Fox or Newsmax has given the talking points on what trump intended to do with such docs, because the only logical explanation is he intended to monetize them. putin would pay billions to know the identities of clandestine assets inside his government. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: You mean like joe did until he got caught out No, I mean like Trump did after he got caught with massive quantities he had no right to have. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Trump has installed his daughter-in-law as Vice Chair of the Republican National Committee. She has already announced that Trump will get the money that the RNC raises. This means the RNC won't be supporting candidates for the Senate and House, as they have in the past. The result is really going to hurt the GOP in November, since much of the money that Trump raises will be used to pay his lawyers. If she is allowed to do something that stupid it will be great for the Democrats. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyExpat57 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 5 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Presidents are not allowed under the PRA to retain any official documents. Presidential archives are first placed under control of the National Archives. Trump violated the PRA by taking official documents from the White House to his residence in Florida. But he never was a REAL president and doesn't REALLY know how to do the job. AND he had the nuclear football. Fercrhissake, people want THAT again?!? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrobay Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) Trump this ,Trump that- bla bla bla. Ya all seem to be " overlooking" the problems at hand. And why any patriotic, objective American has had it with this administration. Edited February 15 by stats disallowed social media content removed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, morrobay said: Trump this ,Trump that- bla bla bla. Ya all seem to be " overlooking" the problems at hand. And why any patriotic, objective American has had it with this administration: "And why any patriotic, objective American has had it with this administration" Aside from the fact that Biden has nothing to do with law enforcement in New York, and the majority of Americans support helping Ukraine resist Russia's empirical expansion, there is the very significant fact that Trump supporters desperately try to ignore: Trump sat in the White House and watched his supporters rampage in the US Capitol for hours and ignored all pleas to do something. Only after three hours, when it was clear that the mob wouldn't accomplish anything beneficial for Trump, did he put out a flattering, half-hearted Tweet repeating the stolen election lie and asking them to go home. Objective, patriotic Americans understand that such a person should never have been POTUS and should never be POTUS again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post morrobay Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 (edited) 32 minutes ago, heybruce said: "And why any patriotic, objective American has had it with this administration" Aside from the fact that Biden has nothing to do with law enforcement in New York, and the majority of Americans support helping Ukraine resist Russia's empirical expansion, Lack of proper law enforcement in these liberal saps run sanctuary cities where some lowlifes civil rights are more important than public safety. Solution: Federalize the states national guards/ send in the army. Round them up and put them on a boat back to bum f--- Egypt. Billions down this Ukraine rabbit hole - at the expense of inner city decay and infrastructure in the US. That the majority of Americans support??? Russia's impirical expansion??. The January 6 people who broke laws are being held accountable . How many of these blm mass rioting and anarchy are being held accountable?? Edited February 15 by morrobay 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, morrobay said: Lack of proper law enforcement in these liberal saps run sanctuary cities where some lowlifes civil rights are more important than public safety. Solution: Round them up and put them on a boat back to bum f--- Egypt. Billions down this Ukraine rabbit hole - at the expense of inner city decay and infrastructure in the US. That the majority of Americans support??? Russia's impirical expansion??. The January 6 people who broke laws are being held accountable . How many of these blm mass rioting and anarchy are being held accountable?? Around 120 as of 30 August 2021. https://apnews.com/article/death-of-george-floyd-george-floyd-race-and-ethnicity-capitol-siege-racial-injustice-07da2a81193ce26de266881230340f1d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 47 minutes ago, morrobay said: Lack of proper law enforcement in these liberal saps run sanctuary cities where some lowlifes civil rights are more important than public safety. Solution: Federalize the states national guards/ send in the army. Round them up and put them on a boat back to bum f--- Egypt. Billions down this Ukraine rabbit hole - at the expense of inner city decay and infrastructure in the US. That the majority of Americans support??? Russia's impirical expansion??. The January 6 people who broke laws are being held accountable . How many of these blm mass rioting and anarchy are being held accountable?? Ok, you advocate a totalitarian federal government and are completely clueless about the number or arrests and prosecutions that resulted from the BLM protests. Got it. However you failed to address Trump's refusal to do anything to stop the Capitol rampage for three hours, which clearly demonstrated that he had no business being POTUS. Why not address that? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, heybruce said: Ok, you advocate a totalitarian federal government and are completely clueless about the number or arrests and prosecutions that resulted from the BLM protests. Got it. However you failed to address Trump's refusal to do anything to stop the Capitol rampage for three hours, which clearly demonstrated that he had no business being POTUS. Why not address that? It needs to be addressed, because no ones ever mentioned that before . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: It needs to be addressed, because no ones ever mentioned that before . And lots of people are in total denial about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Just now, heybruce said: And lots of people are in total denial about it. What people are you referring to ? Who do you mean ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, morrobay said: Trump this ,Trump that- bla bla bla. Ya all seem to be " overlooking" the problems at hand. And why any patriotic, objective American has had it with this administration. Yeah. High stock market, low unemployment, manufacturing up, inflation. A robust economy in America. That's a real problem - for China. Say, are you one of those foreigners who hates Biden? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 21 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Yeah. High stock market, low unemployment, manufacturing up, inflation. A robust economy in America. That's a real problem - for China. Say, are you one of those foreigners who hates Biden? You seem to have dislike of foreigners . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You seem to have dislike of foreigners . I am not crazy about foreigners who hate America and want to saddle us with an obvious psychopath like Trump. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: I am not crazy about foreigners who hate America and want to saddle us with an obvious psychopath like Trump. You seem obsessed with Trump , try to have a day when you aren't thinking and talking about him. You should set one day aside each week where you don't talk about Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You seem obsessed with Trump , try to have a day when you aren't thinking and talking about him. You should set one day aside each week where you don't talk about Trump I'll wait until Trump loses in November. I plan to spend some time in the US working to register voters in a swing state. As opposed to just posting about Trump. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: I'll wait until Trump loses in November. I plan to spend some time in the US working to register voters in a swing state. As opposed to just posting about Trump. How many times will you be able to vote ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: How many times will you be able to vote ? I will vote once, but register some new voters, hopefully in Texas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Danderman123 said: I will vote once, but register some new voters, hopefully in Texas. You could register some new voters and help them fill their voting forms out for them , help them put the cross in the right place and send those votes off ? It worked last time 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You could register some new voters and help them fill their voting forms out for them , help them put the cross in the right place and send those votes off ? It worked last time I guess you aren't familar with US elections. Registration of new voters in Texas happens before the voting starts. Your claims of widespread voter fraud in 2020 could be called crazy. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You could register some new voters and help them fill their voting forms out for them , help them put the cross in the right place and send those votes off ? It worked last time How? Where? When? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 34 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: You could register some new voters and help them fill their voting forms out for them , help them put the cross in the right place and send those votes off ? It worked last time Are you going to provide evidence? Or are you trolling again? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 True the Vote fails to reveal evidence of Georgia voting fraud claims These are the losers who were the basis of the 2000 Mules scam. Now they have admitted in court that their claims were bogus. Although @Nick Carter icpapparently still believes them. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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