You probably can't find it on Western MSM.  But I just watched it live.  The ICJ ruled that South Africa has standing to bring the charges.  The ICJ listed 6 immediate measure including lifting the humanitarian blockade.  Hamas must release the hostages.

1 minute ago, connda said:

You probably can't find it on Western MSM.  But I just watched it live.  They listed 6 immediate measure including lifting the humanitarian blockade. 

 

Is DW Western MSM?

Just showing up on Western MSM site.  Provisional decision.  Final decision to come.

https://news.yahoo.com/international-court-justice-rule-genocide-123141063.html

 

2 minutes ago, connda said:

Just showing up on Western MSM site.  Provisional decision.  Final decision to come.

https://news.yahoo.com/international-court-justice-rule-genocide-123141063.html

 

 

It was also streamed live by DW and the Guardian.

2 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Is DW Western MSM?

I don't speak German.

6 minutes ago, connda said:

I don't speak German.

 

It was in English. I posted the link. If you weatched the court proceedings as you claimed you would know it was conducted in English.

These are the main points from the World Court in The Hague.

 

• The court says it has jurisdiction to rule in the case.
• It orders Israel to take measures to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza - it must report back in a month.
• Israel must prevent and punish incitement to genocide.
• The court says Israel must allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.
• Israel is obliged to take more measures to protect Palestinians but does not order it to end military operations.

Well done South Africa. Now lets have some boycotts , divestments and sanctions on this vile Israeli regime.

6 minutes ago, retarius said:

Well done South Africa. Now lets have some boycotts , divestments and sanctions on this vile Israeli regime.

 

   Those things are already in place and have been in place for a long time .

Are you on Hamas's side ?

Those guys who are holding a one year old baby as hostage 

 

11 minutes ago, retarius said:

Well done South Africa. Now lets have some boycotts , divestments and sanctions on this vile Israeli regime.

 Yeah, go Hamas!

The International Court  lacks enforcement power.

So what if it finds Israel guilty? 

I guess it's better than nothing, but not by much. 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Those things are already in place and have been in place for a long time .

Are you on Hamas's side ?

Those guys who are holding a one year old baby as hostage 

I want the Palestinians to get a fair deal....that means I am not on Israel's side. I'd like to see the laws for war obeyed. And no I don't condone holding a baby of one year old as a hostage, obviously is a barbaric thing to do...it's obviously a war crime (assuming it's true, of course fog of war and all that) and should be punished. But innocent Palestinian babies should not be murdered by brutal soldiers  in the IDF and civilians should, not be murdered by the IDF.

Not as comprehensive a ruling as it could have /should have been, but a good first step in isolating Israel and the radical Zionists that run it.

There's already a topic.....

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, connda said:

These are the main points from the World Court in The Hague.

 

• The court says it has jurisdiction to rule in the case.
• It orders Israel to take measures to prevent acts of genocide in Gaza - it must report back in a month.
• Israel must prevent and punish incitement to genocide.
• The court says Israel must allow humanitarian aid into Gaza.
• Israel is obliged to take more measures to protect Palestinians but does not order it to end military operations.

 

   So the ICJ didn't uphold South Africa's claim of genocide , just told Israel not to commit genocide in the future  .

   This is a massive win for Israel 

Just now, sirineou said:

The International Court  lacks enforcement power.

So what if it finds Israel guilty? 

I guess it's better than nothing, but not by much. 

They have moral authority and have spoken, as a tool of the west this is a huge rebuke not only to the US, but to the EU as well, so all their moral grandstanding is exposed as so much hypocrisy (and it is vile hypocrisy). Any soldier, commander or policitian who wants to leave Israel, if they don't mend their ways is at risk of being charged with war crimes. 

35 minutes ago, connda said:

You probably can't find it on Western MSM.  But I just watched it live.  The ICJ ruled that South Africa has standing to bring the charges.  The ICJ listed 6 immediate measure including lifting the humanitarian blockade.  Hamas must release the hostages.

 

Can't find it how? It's all over the news.

40 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So the ICJ didn't uphold South Africa's claim of genocide , just told Israel not to commit genocide in the future  .

   This is a massive win for Israel 

 

they said there was prima facie evidence of genocide. 

 

40 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   So the ICJ didn't uphold South Africa's claim of genocide , just told Israel not to commit genocide in the future  .

   This is a massive win for Israel 

 

this a massive rebuke to Israel. 

 

Just now, retarius said:

They have moral authority and have spoken, as a tool of the west this is a huge rebuke not only to the US, but to the EU as well, so all their moral grandstanding is exposed as so much hypocrisy (and it is vile hypocrisy). Any soldier, commander or policitian who wants to leave Israel, if they don't mend their ways is at risk of being charged with war crimes. 

 

  We have had that discussion numerous times before , so lets stick to the thread topic and the ICJ ruling 

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The International Court  lacks enforcement power.

So what if it finds Israel guilty? 

I guess it's better than nothing, but not by much. 

 

@sirineou

 

This is not a final ruling, and Israel was not found 'guilty'.

As to what the implications could be - this was discussed in length on several topics by now.

Not so simple as you present.

41 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  We have had that discussion numerous times before , so lets stick to the thread topic and the ICJ ruling 

 

Yeah let's....a massive win for Israel? Open your eyes.

 

 Stop reading UK and US newspapers and start reading more broadly to get a different and better perspective on international affairs.

 

46 minutes ago, retarius said:

I want the Palestinians to get a fair deal....that means I am not on Israel's side. I'd like to see the laws for war obeyed. And no I don't condone holding a baby of one year old as a hostage, obviously is a barbaric thing to do...it's obviously a war crime (assuming it's true, of course fog of war and all that) and should be punished. But innocent Palestinian babies should not be murdered by brutal soldiers  in the IDF and civilians should, not be murdered by the IDF.

 

@retarius

 

It's true. You are not on the Palestinians side. Your issues are with Israel and Jews. You're just piggybacking the Palestinian thing.

 

And here you go again with the usual ploy - some half-arsed condemnation, then 'if it's true'. Don't recall you ever doubting something negative said about Israel - nevermind making up stuff of your own.

 

Murder implies intent. I do not think there was anything said, other than by you, about Israel targeting Palestinian babies.

 

 

9 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The International Court  lacks enforcement power.

So what if it finds Israel guilty? 

I guess it's better than nothing, but not by much. 

It goes to the UN.  I believe first to the Security Council where is will be vetoed by the US, and then to the General Assembly which in genocide cases has the power to collectively act. 

8 minutes ago, DaddyWarbucks said:

Not as comprehensive a ruling as it could have /should have been, but a good first step in isolating Israel and the radical Zionists that run it.

 

How does it 'isolate' Israel?

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