Biden: Impeachment inquiry should be dropped after key source was indicted

[Georgealbert]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are 100% correct on that.

Funniest post of the week.

 

This from the poster that never posts any credible links to anything you claim, but just uses IMHO, as you think that it then makes it true!

 

You would not believe a fact if it smacked you in the face, because you live in an empty vacuum chamber, only hearing what you want to hear. You lack any ability for critical thinking and pollute this forum with your BS and false statements.

 

Don't let your arrogance get the way of your total ignorance.

Edited February 23 by Georgealbert

[stevenl]

Lol, from Hutchinson's lawyer.

 

"Mr. Bobulinski claims under oath that he was not wearing a mask, that Mr. Meadows did not hand him anything, and that Ms. Hutchinson was 'fabricating facts,'" Hutchinson's lawyer wrote in the letter. "Perhaps Mr. Bobulinski's memory is impaired about the meeting, and a picture would help refresh his recollection."

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Funniest post of the week.

 

This from the poster that never posts any credible links to anything you claim, but just uses IMHO, as you think that it then makes it true!

 

You would not believe a fact if it smacked you in the face, because you live in an empty vacuum chamber, only hearing what you want to hear. You lack any ability for critical thinking and pollute this forum with your BS and false statements.

 

Don't let your arrogance get the way of your total ignorance.

OMG your critique is perfect. How anybody with his perceptions keeps on going on when almost everybody feels this same way and he cares less. His typical day is filled with commenters taking down his absurd rantings. Reminds me why I left America having this sort of person sharing living space. I have him on ignore and still see so many firing back at his Ludacris posts. Not sure he has the ability to realize how ill he is.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/19/2024 at 12:34 PM, spidermike007 said:

Many of the tactics employed by Trump and his cronies are based on lies and fabrications. But, since they are not guided by any sort of morality or regard for truth, it does not matter to them. Nor, to many of his devotees. They throw junk against the wall, and hope it will stick. 

 

Hopefully we will be done with the numskull in November. Another loss and he will be toast. See ya Don Don. 

If he wins I'll be sure to remind you of the posts you are making now.

IMO he won't be the candidate, unless the GOP really can't do better than Haley. It's a long way off yet and a week is a long time in politics.

[ozimoron]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If he wins I'll be sure to remind you of the posts you are making now.

IMO he won't be the candidate, unless the GOP really can't do better than Haley. It's a long way off yet and a week is a long time in politics.

 

I believe Haley is amassing funds for a third part run if Trump doesn't implode and she gets the GOP nomination. The week following super Tuesday will be interesting.

 

There is also some speculation that Haley could be viewed as a potential third-party contender.

 

 

And Haley is continuing to generate interest from donors, a sign that she’s likely to stay in the race, at least for the short-term. The campaign announced Monday that Haley raked in $16.5 million in January.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4449756-haleys-long-shot-bid-fuels-questions-about-her-endgame/

[earlinclaifornia]

4 hours ago, ozimoron said:

 

I believe Haley is amassing funds for a third part run if Trump doesn't implode and she gets the GOP nomination. The week following super Tuesday will be interesting.

 

There is also some speculation that Haley could be viewed as a potential third-party contender.

 

 

And Haley is continuing to generate interest from donors, a sign that she’s likely to stay in the race, at least for the short-term. The campaign announced Monday that Haley raked in $16.5 million in January.

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4449756-haleys-long-shot-bid-fuels-questions-about-her-endgame/

Trump raised 8.8 so nearly double she raised than him.

[Danderman123]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I hope Biden is the candidate, as he now is the best reason a GOP candidate will win. If the Dems had a candidate that could speak coherently and not talk to dead people they likely would win, but that doesn't include Harris. If she was the candidate the GOP should be a shoo in. However, I doubt even the Dems would be so foolish as to put her up as the candidate. IMO the plan is to let Biden win, then for him to hand it over to Harris.

So, why is Russia helping the Biden impeachment?

 

And, why can't you answer the question?

[radiochaser]

On 2/23/2024 at 5:29 AM, billd766 said:

And how safe do you think Trump's storage at Mar-a-Lago was for seriously classified documents?

He had Secret Service agents present at Mar A Lago.    I have had to perform work in areas where the secret service provided protection.  No one should have been able to access the area where Trump had the documents stored, without the secret service allowing it.   

Even after having a background investigation for a top secret clearance with SCI access, two back ground investigations as a federal agent for two different security clearances, it was difficult to impossible for me to complete some work in areas where presidents and ex presidents were present.  This even when I had an additional background investigation to work places such as democrat and republican conventions, I would be denied access to areas and I was supposed to be there.  

Can you suggest a way that someone from the general public would have had access to any classified documents in Trump's residence, when the secret service was present when that member of the public was not supposed to be there?  

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6 minutes ago, radiochaser said:

He had Secret Service agents present at Mar A Lago.    I have had to perform work in areas where the secret service provided protection.  No one should have been able to access the area where Trump had the documents stored, without the secret service allowing it.   

Even after having a background investigation for a top secret clearance with SCI access, two back ground investigations as a federal agent for two different security clearances, it was difficult to impossible for me to complete some work in areas where presidents and ex presidents were present.  This even when I had an additional background investigation to work places such as democrat and republican conventions, I would be denied access to areas and I was supposed to be there.  

Can you suggest a way that someone from the general public would have had access to any classified documents in Trump's residence, when the secret service was present when that member of the public was not supposed to be there?  

This is false. As the secret service itself has said, it was there to protect persons, not property. The areas where Trump stored many of the documents were not where he or family members were likely to be.

 
Former President Donald Trump allegedly kept classified documents at various places in his Mar-a-Lago resort, including a public ballroom, bathroom and a bedroom.

According to the special counsel’s indictment of Trump released Friday, the Florida resort hosted more than 150 social events including weddings, movie premiers and fundraisers between January 2021 and August 2022, when the FBI executed a court-approved search of the premises for the documents.
While the Secret Service protected Trump and family members after he left office, the agency wasn’t responsible for the boxes or contents, nor did Trump say classified documents were at Mar-a-Lago, the indictment states.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/heres-where-donald-trump-allegedly-kept-classified-documents-at-mar-a-lago/index.html

 

Where Documents Were Found at Mar-a-Lago

 

https://archive.ph/Ibkws

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/06/09/us/politics/trump-indictment-documents-mar-a-lago.html

[candide]

37 minutes ago, placeholder said:

This is false. As the secret service itself has said, it was there to protect persons, not property. The areas where Trump stored many of the documents were not where he or family members were likely to be.

 
Former President Donald Trump allegedly kept classified documents at various places in his Mar-a-Lago resort, including a public ballroom, bathroom and a bedroom.

According to the special counsel’s indictment of Trump released Friday, the Florida resort hosted more than 150 social events including weddings, movie premiers and fundraisers between January 2021 and August 2022, when the FBI executed a court-approved search of the premises for the documents.
While the Secret Service protected Trump and family members after he left office, the agency wasn’t responsible for the boxes or contents, nor did Trump say classified documents were at Mar-a-Lago, the indictment states.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/09/politics/heres-where-donald-trump-allegedly-kept-classified-documents-at-mar-a-lago/index.html

 

Where Documents Were Found at Mar-a-Lago

 

https://archive.ph/Ibkws

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/06/09/us/politics/trump-indictment-documents-mar-a-lago.html

Well, in a way, it was useful! Visitors could read one or two documents when they went to bathroom, instead of just boring. And let's imagine what could have happened in  case of toilet paper's shortage! 😀

[billd766]

1 hour ago, radiochaser said:

He had Secret Service agents present at Mar A Lago.    I have had to perform work in areas where the secret service provided protection.  No one should have been able to access the area where Trump had the documents stored, without the secret service allowing it.   

Even after having a background investigation for a top secret clearance with SCI access, two back ground investigations as a federal agent for two different security clearances, it was difficult to impossible for me to complete some work in areas where presidents and ex presidents were present.  This even when I had an additional background investigation to work places such as democrat and republican conventions, I would be denied access to areas and I was supposed to be there.  

Can you suggest a way that someone from the general public would have had access to any classified documents in Trump's residence, when the secret service was present when that member of the public was not supposed to be there?  

And what is the job of the secret agents there?

To protect Trump?

To protect the property?

To protect the documents Trump claim that he never had.

It seems from the reports that the documents were dumped in a toilet at Mar-a-Lago. 

Is it the task of the secret service agents to follow every single person working at Mar-a Lago and every single person who visits Trump 24/7, even to the extent of going to the toilet with them and waiting while they completed their business, then escorting them back again?

 

What about when the public were to be there, when staff were present and guests were invited.

 

Did the secret service even know that the documents were even there? If they did know, then why did they not report it up through the chain of command?

[gamb00ler]

On 2/22/2024 at 5:09 AM, radiochaser said:

  They don't care who may gain from their efforts, if any. 

And you are so certain of this because......?  Can you not put 2 and 2 together and get the obvious result?

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, radiochaser said:

He had Secret Service agents present at Mar A Lago.    I have had to perform work in areas where the secret service provided protection.  No one should have been able to access the area where Trump had the documents stored, without the secret service allowing it.   
 

Your prior experience as a high level intelligence officer has failed you here. 5 minutes on Google would inform you that thousands of random people had access to the areas where classified documents were stored.

[placeholder]

 

5 hours ago, radiochaser said:

He had Secret Service agents present at Mar A Lago.    I have had to perform work in areas where the secret service provided protection.  No one should have been able to access the area where Trump had the documents stored, without the secret service allowing it.   

Even after having a background investigation for a top secret clearance with SCI access, two back ground investigations as a federal agent for two different security clearances, it was difficult to impossible for me to complete some work in areas where presidents and ex presidents were present.  This even when I had an additional background investigation to work places such as democrat and republican conventions, I would be denied access to areas and I was supposed to be there.  

Can you suggest a way that someone from the general public would have had access to any classified documents in Trump's residence, when the secret service was present when that member of the public was not supposed to be there?  

Inside Mar-a-Lago, Where Thousands Partied Near Secret Files

"Most of the classified documents in August were found in a storage area, which is accessible through two sets of arched doors, people familiar with the property told The Times. The doors are near the pool area, a popular event space."...

"Federal agents seized documents, including ones labeled as “Top Secret,” from a small room within the storage area, a space where cleaning supplies, beach chairs and umbrellas were also kept."

"Security camera footage from the hallway outside had captured a Trump aide moving boxes from the storage area, both before and after the Justice Department subpoenaed Mr. Trump and demanded the return of classified records."

https://archive.ph/AJrNr

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/15/us/mar-a-lago-trump-documents.html

[Danderman123]

On 2/21/2024 at 1:01 AM, radiochaser said:

"Should" those who supported the Steele dossier, Russia gate investigation against Trump, also go back and correct their posts?
 

As an intelligence officer, you should know the facts before you post.

 

Can you recall any intelligence information that prompted the FBI investigation of the Trump campaign in 2016?

 

Do you understand that the Steele dossier was intended as a collection of raw unfiltered intelligence about Trump?

 

Or were you so lame on the job that you couldn't tell fact from fiction?

Edited February 25 by Danderman123

[metisdead]

A post with a trolling video contravening our Community Standards has been removed.

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, gamb00ler said:

And you are so certain of this because......?  Can you not put 2 and 2 together and get the obvious result?

I can't imagine an intelligence officer who would support Trump, unless they had Russian connections.

[Danderman123]

On 2/21/2024 at 1:14 AM, radiochaser said:

Mueller allegation is that Papadopoulos had reason to believe Mifsud was a Russian agent — not that Mifsud actually was one.

 

 

 

As an intelligence officer, you would think that a Trump campaign worker hanging out with Joseph Mifsud would be suspicious.

 

[Danderman123]

On 2/21/2024 at 7:09 PM, radiochaser said:

Perhaps it is to the benefit of russia and putin,, regardless if there is any benefit to Trump, if there is any.  
The russians are in this to benifit their country.  They don't care who may gain from their efforts, if any. 

So, you agree that the Russians want Biden to lose, since that would benefit Russia.

 

Congratulations, you answered correctly.

[Danderman123]

On 2/21/2024 at 9:23 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

Proof of that? Making it up again?

Biden's handwritten notes part of classified docs probe

 

Biden thought that his handwritten notes were his personal property.

 

Wrong.

Edited February 25 by Danderman123

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/22/2024 at 1:45 AM, radiochaser said:

This is the first that I have read, that the steele dossier was funded by republicans.
Perhaps you should inform AP.   But then, perhaps some of those RINO's (who I belive are moderate democrats) were involved too.!

Then perhaps you need to do a little more reading. This was actually one of the stranger aspects of the whole Steele dossier affair, that the funding that led to it came initially from Republicans, then later from Democrats.

 

Quote

The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired the research firm that months later produced for Democrats the salacious dossier describing ties between Donald J. Trump and the Russian government.

 

Conservative Website First Funded Anti-Trump Research by Firm That Later Produced Dossier

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/22/2024 at 8:20 PM, nauseus said:

 

If you can link enough convincing information to prove all that then I'd be pleased to look.

The convincing information that he was meeting with Russian intelligence services is in the indictment, which has already been linked to.

 

The proof that the Republicans knew the information was suspect comes from Republican lawmaker Ken Buck, who stated this live on air in an interview.

 

Republican: Colleagues were warned informant’s Biden claims were not verified

[Danderman123]

On 2/22/2024 at 8:20 PM, nauseus said:

 

If you can link enough convincing information to prove all that then I'd be pleased to look.

 

who demanded to know how much the Russians were paying Smirnov before he could make a comment on the spy scandal.

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

The convincing information that he was meeting with Russian intelligence services is in the indictment, which has already been linked to.

 

The proof that the Republicans knew the information was suspect comes from Republican lawmaker Ken Buck, who stated this live on air in an interview.

 

Republican: Colleagues were warned informant’s Biden claims were not verified

 

You should read your own link, carefully and in full.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 

who demanded to know how much the Russians were paying Smirnov before he could make a comment on the spy scandal.

 

No linkee, no likee,  

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 2/24/2024 at 10:11 PM, Danderman123 said:

So, why is Russia helping the Biden impeachment?

 

And, why can't you answer the question?

I gave that one of the laughing emojiis. As usual you provided no proof for your opinion that Russia is assisting the Biden impeachment, and when you ask a serious question I might answer it.

Edited February 25 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

12 hours ago, billd766 said:

It seems from the reports that the documents were dumped in a toilet at Mar-a-Lago. 

LOL. Did the report also claim that a big sign was put on the documents so that any persons using the toilet would immediately know they were classified documents?

 

If you were using a toilet at a dwelling not your own, do you rifle through any documents that may have been stored there? Are you able to inform us as how any person that might wish to harm the US would have known that classified documents were stared there?

Even if such documents were stored in a toilet in that location, is it your contention that it was a toilet in public use?

How were the documents placed in the toilet? If they were in fact "dumped" as you are trying to tell us, was the toilet even in use by anyone?

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I gave that one of the laughing emojiis. As usual you provided no proof for your opinion that Russia is assisting the Biden impeachment, and when you ask a serious question I might answer it.

Indicted ex-FBI informant told investigators he got Hunter Biden dirt from Russian intelligence officials

 

If a confession from the person supplying dirt from Russia isn't enough for you  then it's a cognition problem on your part.

[Danderman123]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. Did the report also claim that a big sign was put on the documents so that any persons using the toilet would immediately know they were classified documents?

 

If you were using a toilet at a dwelling not your own, do you rifle through any documents that may have been stored there? Are you able to inform us as how any person that might wish to harm the US would have known that classified documents were stared there?

Even if such documents were stored in a toilet in that location, is it your contention that it was a toilet in public use?

How were the documents placed in the toilet? If they were in fact "dumped" as you are trying to tell us, was the toilet even in use by anyone?

So you are now defending storing classified documents in a toilet?

 

Aren't you the same guy who complained about Biden having classified documents in his garage?

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

You should read your own link, carefully and in full.

Yes, because the link describes exactly how the Russians manufactured dirt on Biden and passed it to congressional Republicans.