Shamima Begum: East London schoolgirl loses appeal against removal of UK citizenship

[herfiehandbag]

On 2/24/2024 at 12:53 PM, Ajarnbrian said:

Shamina made a bad decision but after a few days or weeks there with ISIS, did she show her regret and wish to get out in her emails to friends and family? If she did, some sympathy. But it seems she didn’t at all. If ISIS hadn’t been crushed, likely she would still be an active member. The right decision by UK courts.

I doubt that " getting out" was an option once she had arrived in her foolishly imagined "Shangri La"! Nor, I suspect was unrestricted or unsupervised access to Email.

 

We could argue for ever about the court decisions, but she has not had the opportunity to appear before the courts. There was no judicial involvement or process to strip her citizenship, rather a snap decision by the Home Secretary.

[JonnyF]

Great news.

 

A revolting character. Good riddance. 

[quake]

3 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

There was no judicial involvement or process to strip her citizenship, rather a snap decision by the Home Secretary.

 

Absolutely fine by me. 

 

 

 

[FruitPudding]

15 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Brain washed from birth? I haven't seen that report. Do you have a link?

 

Are you joking? Or just being obtuse?

 

She's Muslim and she went to join ISIS as a child. 

 

[youreavinalaff]

6 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Are you joking? Or just being obtuse?

 

She's Muslim and she went to join ISIS as a child. 

 

So, no link to your brainwashing theory?

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

So, no link to your brainwashing theory?

 

Okay, answer this, how does a London school child decide to join ISIS without being brainwashed with that ideology?

 

She's Muslim for Christ's sake. They get fed this BS from birth. That's how religion works. 

 

You must be dumb to not get that

[transam]

3 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Okay, answer this, how does a London school child decide to join ISIS without being brainwashed with that ideology?

 

She's Muslim for Christ's sake. They get fed this BS from birth. That's how religion works. 

 

You must be dumb to not get that

Are you saying her/their parents caused these 'children's' problem........?

 

Seems these 'children' did very well at getting from the UK to ISIS for that marriage and rogering by murderers, eh..

 

If ISIS had not been taken out, you not have heard a word from the bird...........😉

 

But hey, send her some go-fund- me cash.......

[FruitPudding]

38 minutes ago, transam said:

Are you saying her/their parents caused these 'children's' problem........?

 

Yeah.

 

38 minutes ago, transam said:

Seems these 'children' did very well at getting from the UK to ISIS for that marriage and rogering by murderers, eh..

 

Yeah, totally sounds like something a sane person would do.

 

And at 15, she was still a child, so I dunno why you are writing, 'children' like she wasn't. 

 

Not old enough yet to consent to sex (in the UK), or to drink alcohol, or to smoke, or to drive a car, but you are acting like she's a pornstar in an ISIS gangbang. Shocking.

 

38 minutes ago, transam said:

 

If ISIS had not been taken out, you not have heard a word from the bird...........😉

 

She's 24 now and her pre-frontal cortex is just fully developed. Maybe she regrets her decisions?

 

38 minutes ago, transam said:

But hey, send her some go-fund- me cash.......

 

Uhm....no, but I am heavily invested in a company that fights Islamic terrorists, such as Al Qaeda, ISIS and Hamas, so don't get me confused with some kind of extreme left do-gooder dafty.

 

Yet even I think there is a case to be made in her defense here.

[transam]

I think 16 when the rogering started, and it was you that started the 'child' route...🤭

 

Pre-frontal cortex.................🤣

Didn't you have a girlfriend at 16, I know I did............?  😘

 

Of course, you make 'heavy' donations

............🙄

[FruitPudding]

Just now, transam said:

I think 16 when the rogering started, and it was you that started the 'child' route...🤭

 

Pre-frontal cortex.................🤣

Didn't you have a girlfriend at 16, I know I did............?  😘

 

Of course, you make 'heavy' donations

............🙄

 

This is just incoherent babble

[transam]

58 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Okay, answer this, how does a London school child decide to join ISIS without being brainwashed with that ideology?

 

She's Muslim for Christ's sake. They get fed this BS from birth. That's how religion works. 

 

You must be dumb to not get that

Get taught from birth to go kill Muslims folk with no beard or smoking a ciggy, are you sure its not these 3 girls were enthralled at the ISIS Rambo's and what they do on their computors...? 🤔

 

Well, I am sure mum & dad wouldn't have shown them the sawing off of heads.....

[transam]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

This is just incoherent babble

That's as good an excuse as any..........

[josephbloggs]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

This is just incoherent babble

 You must be new to his posts to just realise this. It is standard, as is the trolling. And I think he gets turned on every time he writes "rogering" because it is in every post - fantasising about a 15 year old getting "rogered" is a little disturbing to be honest.

[youreavinalaff]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Okay, answer this, how does a London school child decide to join ISIS without being brainwashed with that ideology?

 

She's Muslim for Christ's sake. They get fed this BS from birth. That's how religion works. 

 

You must be dumb to not get that

Only Islam?

 

Does every Catholic in Ireland get brainwashed and join IRA? 

 

By your ideology, all Muslims join ISIS. Take a look at how many Muslims there are in the world and how many members there are of ISIS and all the splinter groups.

 

Who brainwashed her from birth? Parents? Are they members of ISIS?

 

Your posts smack of the "all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims" ideology".

 

 

 

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Only Islam?

 

Does every Catholic in Ireland get brainwashed and join IRA? 

 

By your ideology, all Muslims join ISIS. Take a look at how many Muslims there are in the world and how many members there are of ISIS and all the splinter groups.

 

Who brainwashed her from birth? Parents? Are they members of ISIS?

 

Your posts smack of the "all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims" ideology".

 

 

 

 

Yep, the bloke hasn't thought things through........🙄

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Yep, the bloke hasn't thought things through........🙄

It's the BS posted/printed by the right that ignites the left.

 

If people would just post the facts instead of fantasy, there'd be no comebacks.

 

 

[FruitPudding]

18 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Only Islam?

 

Let's stay in topic,  Buddy.

 

18 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

Does every Catholic in Ireland get brainwashed and join IRA? 

 

Islam is terrorising all over the world.

 

The IRA isn't the topic, nor even an issue anymore. It's history.

 

18 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

By your ideology, all Muslims join ISIS.

 

I am talking about this British girl who joined ISIS at 15.

 

You are really losing the thread here.

 

 

18 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Your posts smack of the "all Muslims are terrorists and all terrorists are Muslims" ideology".

 

I think that's the way you are trying to spin my posts.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Let's stay in topic,  Buddy.

 

 

Islam is terrorising all over the world.

 

The IRA isn't the topic, nor even an issue anymore. It's history.

 

 

I am talking about this British girl who joined ISIS at 15.

 

You are really losing the thread here.

 

 

 

I think that's the way you are trying to spin my posts.

No, I agree with him, I think you are lost and concentrating on "15"...........🙄

[youreavinalaff]

8 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Let's stay in topic,  Buddy.

 

 

Islam is terrorising all over the world.

 

The IRA isn't the topic, nor even an issue anymore. It's history.

 

 

I am talking about this British girl who joined ISIS at 15.

 

You are really losing the thread here.

 

 

 

I think that's the way you are trying to spin my posts.

Not at all.

 

It's you saying things like "she's a Muslim, they get fed this BS from birth" at the same time as talking about brainwashing and joining ISIS.

 

In the context you used, "they" refers to Muslims as a whole.

 

With your ideology, I could never be your "Buddy".

 

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

No, I agree with him, I think you are lost and concentrating on "15"...........🙄

 

So, you do get my point. It's a miracle.

 

She joined ISIS as a child. 

[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Not at all.

 

It's you saying things like "she's a Muslim, that's how religion works" at the same time as talking about brainwashing from birth.

 

 

Right!

 

People are born into a religion. They are then taught their religion's mythology, like it's real.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

So, you do get my point. It's a miracle.

 

She joined ISIS as a child. 

She was 16 when being rogered, which is what she/they wanted, in the UK that is legal..............

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

She joined ISIS as a child. 

Finally you post a fact.

 

Well done.

 

Having said that, 15 is only a child in law. Young woman or teenager would be more accurate in theory.

[FruitPudding]

Just now, transam said:

She was 16 when being rogered, which is what she/they wanted, in the UK that is legal..............

 

Was she on trial for being rogered? Is that why she lost her citizenship?

 

How is it even relevant to mention that?

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Right!

 

People are born into a religion. They are then taught their religion's mythology, like it's real.

We are getting there.

 

Now they are "taught" not "brainwashed"

 

They are "taught" mythology not to join terrorist groups.

 

 

 

 

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Finally you post a fact.

 

I said it in my first post on this thread. It's what I have been saying all along.

 

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

Having said that, 15 is only a child in law.

 

This whole discussion is about the law, no? Why would we not talk about the law, lol?

 

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

Young woman or teenager would be more accurate in theory.

 

Lol, "Sorry, your honor, I believe she was a young woman" lol.

 

[transam]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

 

Was she on trial for being rogered? Is that why she lost her citizenship?

 

How is it even relevant to mention that?

😂...Because you keep bringing up"15"............😂

 

She lost because she cavorted abroad with murderers, so to protect the citizens of OUR country she has been told to go to the place she will be given a passport, then sew her seeds there...........

[FruitPudding]

10 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

We are getting there.

 

Now they are "taught" not "brainwashed"

 

They are "taught" mythology not to join terrorist groups.

 

 

 

 

 

But they are taught it as being REAL - and their entire existence is centred around it -  even though you and I know it's mythology. 

[VocalNeal]

2 hours ago, FruitPudding said:

Not old enough yet to consent to sex (in the UK), or to drink alcohol, or to smoke, or to drive a car, but you are acting like she's a pornstar in an ISIS gangbang. Shocking.

 

She probably ran away from home. Many teenagers do that. Where she got the money to fly and why she chose Syria instead of Weston-super-mare is a different question.

[youreavinalaff]

9 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

 

But they are taught it as being REAL - and their entire existence is centred around it -  even though you and I know it's mythology. 

I don't know that.

 

I've never seen any proof or facts. I've seen suggestions, I have my own theories but I don't know any facts that it's mythology.