Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 12 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Trump has never been charged with insurrection, much less convicted. For once you are correct but as far as January 6th is concerned, he is being charged with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to obstruct an official proceeding, obstructing a congressional proceeding and conspiracy against rights. The Jan. 6 charges against Trump explained - The Washington Post This is just one of many charges in connection to January 6th. He is of course being charged in Georgia with his efforts to overturn the legitimate will of the people in the election. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said: As these ones scared enough for you? Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said: And how exactly did he do that? Was it by being black? Do you believe the country is more racially divided now than it was prior to the Obama Administration? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybangkok Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 13 minutes ago, frank83628 said: Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down. 'Pelosi’s spokesman said she was not consulted about the National Guard before Jan. 6. And the former House sergeant-at-arms, who reported to Pelosi, testified that he had no discussions about National Guard troops with any congressional leaders before Jan. 6. Without evidence to back it, we rate Trump’s statement False. PolitiFact | No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 or that Pelosi denied it Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 (usatoday.com) AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’ | The Hill FactChecking Claims About the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot - FactCheck.org Next! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Do you believe the country is more racially divided now than it was prior to the Obama Administration? Yes, thanks to Trump and his dog whistling to the white supremacists. Not every Trump fan is a racist but ALL racists are Trump fans. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank83628 Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 56 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said: 'Pelosi’s spokesman said she was not consulted about the National Guard before Jan. 6. And the former House sergeant-at-arms, who reported to Pelosi, testified that he had no discussions about National Guard troops with any congressional leaders before Jan. 6. Without evidence to back it, we rate Trump’s statement False. PolitiFact | No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 or that Pelosi denied it Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 (usatoday.com) AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’ | The Hill FactChecking Claims About the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot - FactCheck.org Next! the narrative pelosi wants is exactly what you posted in those links.. https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1419992938784952327?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1419992938784952327|twgr^1450b6c2c01d23edda11052d2be7df815ede3f25|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Ffact-check%2Fpelosi-national-guard-capitol%2F Edited March 7 by frank83628 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybangkok Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, frank83628 said: the narrative pelosi wants is exactly what you posted in those links.. https://twitter.com/SpeakerMcCarthy/status/1419992938784952327?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1419992938784952327|twgr^1450b6c2c01d23edda11052d2be7df815ede3f25|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.snopes.com%2Ffact-check%2Fpelosi-national-guard-capitol%2F I post 4 reputable media sources (I could have got you 10) confirming that Trump's statement is false; you post a Twitter comment from McCarthy. I find it really quite amazing how sucked in you all are with what Trump says. He lies ALL OF THE TIME and you fall for it ALL OF THE TIME. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said: 'Pelosi’s spokesman said she was not consulted about the National Guard before Jan. 6. And the former House sergeant-at-arms, who reported to Pelosi, testified that he had no discussions about National Guard troops with any congressional leaders before Jan. 6. Without evidence to back it, we rate Trump’s statement False. PolitiFact | No proof Trump requested 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 or that Pelosi denied it Fact check: Trump did not request 10,000 Guard troops for Jan. 6 (usatoday.com) AP fact check rates GOP claim Pelosi blocked National Guard on Jan. 6 ‘false’ | The Hill FactChecking Claims About the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot - FactCheck.org Next! Us intelligent normal folk should have realised by now that it is absolutely no use whatsoever in stating/quoting facts to a trump supporter, because they don't have the mental capacity to process facts, only the nonsense provided by the cult leader, you know the one who raises his clenched tiny fists from his small hands in some sort of show for his goobers. Pathetic really. And although he is back on the ballot papers, I sincerely hope that he doesn't become POTUS again, although the only thing it will show the rest of the world is how stupid it is that a man who is despised and considered a laughing stock by many of them, manages to gain that position. Unbelievable. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said: I post 4 reputable media sources (I could have got you 10) confirming that Trump's statement is false; you post a Twitter comment from McCarthy. I find it really quite amazing how sucked in you all are with what Trump says. He lies ALL OF THE TIME and you fall for it ALL OF THE TIME. yeah, i saw the google search results...pages of msm articles reading form exactly the same script. Seeing as 95% of media is left bias, including google it's very hard to find non bias results at the click of a finger, i'm certainly not wasting time going through pages to find something for you to accept. What McCarthy said was also raised by others. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: , more insurrectionists: Thank for highlighting the difference between 2016 and 2020. In 2016, Hillary did not claim there had been massive fraud, did not organise a protest and id not send her supporters to the Capitol, and they did not assault it in order to steal the election. Some people protested and burned Trump's head, as during a Carnival. In 2020, Trump claimed there had been massive fraud, organised a protest and sent them to the Capitol, and they assaulted the Capitol in order to overturn the election. Oh, sorry, wi forgot to mention the similarities! After the 2026 election, Trump claimed there had been massive fraud! 😀 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riclag Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 21 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: While they get the tissues, I am getting the popcorn ready. However it ends up going, this one is going to be very entertaining. Biden will not be able to hide is his basement again. “biden won’t be hiding in the basement again”. And his cabal won’t be using Twitter to censor debate ,as had been decided in Missouri vs biden, or lying about his drug addicted son on the debate stage claiming his son had no china business dealings or having help from 51 former intel agents make up a Russian disinformation narrative to deflect from the hunters Laptop from Hell , with all manifestations of drugs, prostitution, and incriminating emails! Imop 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, xylophone said: Us intelligent normal folk should have realised by now that it is absolutely no use whatsoever in stating/quoting facts to a trump supporter, because they don't have the mental capacity to process facts, only the nonsense provided by the cult leader, you know the one who raises his clenched tiny fists from his small hands in some sort of show for his goobers. Pathetic really. And although he is back on the ballot papers, I sincerely hope that he doesn't become POTUS again, although the only thing it will show the rest of the world is how stupid it is that a man who is despised and considered a laughing stock by many of them, manages to gain that position. Unbelievable. i hop he does just to see all people like you lose their minds...AGAIN! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 1 hour ago, frank83628 said: Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down. This is a lie. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 12 minutes ago, candide said: Thank for highlighting the difference between 2016 and 2020. In 2016, Hillary did not claim there had been massive fraud, did not organise a protest and id not send her supporters to the Capitol, and they did not assault it in order to steal the election. Some people protested and burned Trump's head, as during a Carnival. In 2020, Trump claimed there had been massive fraud, organised a protest and sent them to the Capitol, and they assaulted the Capitol in order to overturn the election. Oh, sorry, wi forgot to mention the similarities! After the 2026 election, Trump claimed there had been massive fraud! 😀 no...what Clinton did instead was to start the whole Russian collusion BS she refused to accept trump won legitimately, still doesn't accept it 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 12 minutes ago, frank83628 said: no...what Clinton did instead was to start the whole Russian collusion BS she refused to accept trump won legitimately, still doesn't accept it So she did not send her supporters to assault the Capitol. Thank you again for acknowledging this difference. It can be discussed forever whether the Russian interference had enough impact or not to change election results. However it is fact that there had been Russian interference. Edited March 7 by candide 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 28 minutes ago, riclag said: “biden won’t be hiding in the basement again”. And his cabal won’t be using Twitter to censor debate ,as had been decided in Missouri vs biden, or lying about his drug addicted son on the debate stage claiming his son had no china business dealings or having help from 51 former intel agents make up a Russian disinformation narrative to deflect from the hunters Laptop from Hell , with all manifestations of drugs, prostitution, and incriminating emails! Imop Mate - you are correct and there is no opinion in that - those are the facts and they have been clearly established by hearings and tribunals - but not covered much by the media. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 4 minutes ago, candide said: So she did not send her supporters to assault the Capitol. Thank you again for acknowledging this difference. It can be discussed forever whether the Russian interference had enough impact or not to change election results. However it is fact that there had been Russian interference. neither did Trump, if you listened to the audio or watched the video, he clearly states..to 'peacefully' march to the capitol. were those that chose to riot actually Trump supporters?? 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 2 minutes ago, frank83628 said: neither did Trump, if you listened to the audio or watched the video, he clearly states..to 'peacefully' march to the capitol. were those that chose to riot actually Trump supporters?? I know right? and he swiftly put an end to it, and disassociate himself from them. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Mate - you are correct and there is no opinion in that - those are the facts and they have been clearly established by hearings and tribunals - but not covered much by the media. Agree ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 31 minutes ago, candide said: 2 hours ago, frank83628 said: Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down. This is a lie. If you've got an extra hour, here's a Tucker Carlson interview with Steven Sund, the Capitol Police Chief at the time of the Jan 6 protest. The security failures on Jan 6 weren't failures as much as the plan. https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-steven-sund/ 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybangkok Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 51 minutes ago, frank83628 said: yeah, i saw the google search results...pages of msm articles reading form exactly the same script. Seeing as 95% of media is left bias, including google it's very hard to find non bias results at the click of a finger, i'm certainly not wasting time going through pages to find something for you to accept. What McCarthy said was also raised by others. There is no debating you when you do not accept facts corroborated by the majority of the media. Instead you prefer to take the word of a pathological liar or the Twitter account of Kevin McCarthy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 6 minutes ago, frank83628 said: neither did Trump, if you listened to the audio or watched the video, he clearly states..to 'peacefully' march to the capitol. were those that chose to riot actually Trump supporters?? Sorry, I was not precise enough. He sent them to the Capitol after telling them to fight like hell, during a protest called "stop the steal" , and then by themselves, they decided to assault the Capitol. They may have thought that stopping the election certification was like stopping the steal. And when they assaulted the Capitol, Trump did nothing to stop them during hours. He never told them: no no, you misunderstand me, stop it at once! 😀 As to your question : that's what the Jan. 6 rioters trial has showed ( that their were Trump supporters). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Just now, impulse said: If you've got an extra hour, here's a Tucker Carlson interview with Steven Sund, the Capitol Police Chief at the time of the Jan 6 protest. The security failures on Jan 6 weren't failures as much as the plan. https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-steven-sund/ thanks, i couldn't remember the dudes name. funny how these things are now only covered by independent journalists or outlets, msm & social media is totally corrupted and bought out. so much clear to see since 2016! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 minutes ago, impulse said: If you've got an extra hour, here's a Tucker Carlson interview with Steven Sund, the Capitol Police Chief at the time of the Jan 6 protest. The security failures on Jan 6 weren't failures as much as the plan. https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-steven-sund/ Please show the quote confirming that Pelosi refused a national guard offer by Trump. I did not find it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 (edited) 7 minutes ago, frank83628 said: thanks, i couldn't remember the dudes name. funny how these things are now only covered by independent journalists or outlets, msm & social media is totally corrupted and bought out. so much clear to see since 2016! Lol! Where is it written in this interview transcript that "Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down."? Edited March 7 by candide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post frank83628 Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 Just now, candide said: Sorry, I was not precise enough. He sent them to the Capitol after telling them to fight like hell, during a protest called "stop the steal" , and then by themselves, they decided to assault the Capitol. They may have thought that stopping the election certification was like stopping the steal. And when they assaulted the Capitol, Trump did nothing to stop them during hours. He never told them: no no, you misunderstand me, stop it at once! 😀 As to your question : that's what the Jan. 6 rioters trial has showed ( that their were Trump supporters). do you want clips of democrat maxine walters telling her audience to 'fight like hell' with regards ti the supreme court? https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2726516057657653 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TroubleandGrumpy Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 24 minutes ago, frank83628 said: neither did Trump, if you listened to the audio or watched the video, he clearly states..to 'peacefully' march to the capitol. were those that chose to riot actually Trump supporters?? Whatever they were (and I think they were both instigators and protestors) and the protestors were dumb bast*** to walk inside and protest - the doors were opened for obvious reasons and they fell right into it. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 15 minutes ago, impulse said: If you've got an extra hour, here's a Tucker Carlson interview with Steven Sund, the Capitol Police Chief at the time of the Jan 6 protest. The security failures on Jan 6 weren't failures as much as the plan. https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-steven-sund/ Fox didn't aired that interview for a reason any person with an iota of a brain would figured out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post G_Money Posted March 7 Popular Post Share Posted March 7 2 hours ago, frank83628 said: Trump offered Pelosi National Guard...she turned it down. She had to make sure her daughter who was on standby, cameras ready to roll, had footage to provide for the propaganda campaign to “get trump”. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, frank83628 said: do you want clips of democrat maxine walters telling her audience to 'fight like hell' with regards ti the supreme court? https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2726516057657653 Deflection and lame false equivalence. She did not call protesters to march to the Capitol during election certification. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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