Gandtee Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 14 hours ago, JBChiangRai said: Removing Section 112 has nothing to do with overthrowing the democratic regime of the government with the King as the head of state. The UK has a democratic regime of government with the King as head of state without a Section 112. I think the UK does have a les majeste law but it it hasn't been used in ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just now, Chongalulu said: The box is being removed - acquiescence will return... Acquiescence is the silence before the storm, you can't cover a hole in the ground with a tarpaulin and pretend it isn't there, somebody may fall in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Card Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 Obviously, by preserving its thoroughly democratically elected govt, it is showing why its candidature to be a member of the United Nations Human Rights Council is fully justified. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaucan Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 14 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Getting rid of the possible problem before they have one...Thai style politics...bad guys in...good guys out! u misspeled rich guys in poor guy out. noone care bout ur idea of bad bro, u think the politicians aka military are good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimHuaHin Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 I wonder if the power elite who have arranged this act, have thought it through. We know that about just over one-third of the votes in the last election were received by the MFP - a percentage that has increased to just over two-fifths if recent polls are correct. We know that the MFP won all bar one seat in Bangkok - thus the MFP has large urban middle class support. We also know from Thai electorate data that electorates with military bases had high MFP support - one has just to consult the Thai social media sites of military personnel to confirm this support. Despite the Prime Minister's global tours to encourage foreign investment in Thailand (which will take time to be realised, if at all) the Thai economy is not going well. The "killing" of the MFP and the subsequent public outcry may not only discourage new investment, but encourage the outflow of exiting investment. If civil unrest erupts, especially in Bangkok, we shall see Embassies in Bangkok issue travel warnings, and foreign tourism will sink, as it did in 2010. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: Dissolve all opposition... Asian way of life. Cambodia, Myanmar and Thailand... all the same. Not just Asia. It is the way totalitarian dictatorships work. I won't call Thailand an outright totalitarian dictatorship but it is a dictatorship by stealth. The military and who they serve are the true rulers here. The people are mearly subjects who get token elections every now and again with the real outcome know well in advance. The govt (military) does not rule for the people. They subjugate any sniff of democracy to maintain their power. 3 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 A corrupt commission asks a biased court to dissolve a party because that party planned to amend a law, which they say would lead to an overthrow of "the democratic regime of the government"... Yet, the Thai military and Police have actually overthrown "the democratic regime of the government" since its inception so many times that Thailand holds the world record for the highest number of successful coups, and nothing ever has happened to those coup makers, they actually get appointed to one of the most venerated positions (Privy Council) after they are done ruining the country, which makes them untouchable due to those same laws. Disgusting. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 For decades I’ve been saying myself,”it’s getting better” but it never does. A broken feudal kleptocracy where the poor get poorer and the rich get vastly richer. And if the people complain they beat and shoot them. 1 hour ago, sidneybear said: Good news. Thailand doesn't need rhese western backed so called "progressives". Look at the state the west is in thanks to all this progressive rubbish. Possibly the dimmest thing I’ve ever read on the internet. 4 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiFelix Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Let this be a lesson to all of you out there who seem to think you have some kind of say in what happens in what you think is your own country! Now get back to work! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paymaster Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Who are the faceless men/women that make up the Constitutional Court? Are they inspired by pheua Thai or the military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boedog Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 panic is setting in, have to remove the threat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviatorhi Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 12 hours ago, MangoKorat said: Each time I read such things I think.......riots! And riots is exactly what would happen in most countries where any group tried to remove the democratic rights of the people. Imagine trying to do this in France? Sadly, the Thai people seem totally resigned to the fact that the Military will always be in charge of the country and there's nothing they can do to change that. So sad. You're forgetting Freedumbland - now they riot FOR dictatorship in that place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeandDow Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, ericthai said: you're really trying to compare pol pot to Thaiskin?? do you even understand what pol pot did?? 25% of the population was killed I'm no fan of Thaksin as he started the stricter visa/overstay rules, but Thaksin didn't tell the police to go out and kill people. That happened for various reasons, mainly being the typical shootouts between drug dealers and the police. Others being the BIB protecting their own interests, but the police said it was self defense which all know was BS... Think you need to read Thai history on Thaskin and Yes he did tell the police to go out and kill people he had kill lists made up. and it was not all drug dealers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RandolphGB Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 (edited) We can't post the real reason. This forum doesn't allow. Edited March 13 by RandolphGB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthainess Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 15 hours ago, Artisi said: They must be worried, very worried. They, including 'Him' gotta keep the $$$$ flowing, and the freedom of speech stemmed. Otherwise we might all find out some more bad stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 15 hours ago, MangoKorat said: They cannot be serious........wasn't the result of the last election and who was actually allowed into government the real 'overthrow of democracy'? I would love to see the wording of the reform, it seems to never make the news, but seems to get blown out of proportion, that we won't know unless it's published. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 22 minutes ago, paymaster said: Who are the faceless men/women that make up the Constitutional Court? Are they inspired by pheua Thai or the military? Prayut's puppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 30 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Not just Asia. It is the way totalitarian dictatorships work. I won't call Thailand an outright totalitarian dictatorship but it is a dictatorship by stealth. The military and who they serve are the true rulers here. The people are mearly subjects who get token elections every now and again with the real outcome know well in advance. The govt (military) does not rule for the people. They subjugate any sniff of democracy to maintain their power. Well said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, ericthai said: you're really trying to compare pol pot to Thaiskin?? do you even understand what pol pot did?? 25% of the population was killed I'm no fan of Thaksin as he started the stricter visa/overstay rules, but Thaksin didn't tell the police to go out and kill people. That happened for various reasons, mainly being the typical shootouts between drug dealers and the police. Others being the BIB protecting their own interests, but the police said it was self defense which all know was BS... You should read this entire article and many, many similar ones to educate yourself on Thaksin's "war on drugs" and the ensuing extrajudicial killings. http://www.humanrights.asia/resources/journals-magazines/article2/special-report-extrajudicial-killings-of-alleged-drug-dealers-in-thailand/extrajudicial-killings-of-alleged-drug-dealers-in-thailand/ Extrajudicial killings of alleged drug dealers in Thailand Prime Minister of Thailand Thaksin Shinawatra announced on 28 January 2003 that a ‘war on drugs’ would begin on February 1, and continue until April 30, at which time the country would be drug-free. As a result, over 2000 persons lost their lives during this three-month period, murdered on the streets, in houses, restaurants and shops around the country. Others who escaped death have been forced into hiding or had their reputations and livelihoods ruined. Below is a selection of cases compiled from complaints received and investigated by non-governmental organizations, the media and other sources. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave1954 Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 It's amazing the western world has verry little to say (and keeps supporting) this dictatorship blatantly masquerading as a democracy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Hull Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Your article states "democratic regime of the government with the King as the head of state" is an oxymoron. With a head of state who is untouchable the democratic regime of the government is NOT democratic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Karma80 Posted March 13 Popular Post Share Posted March 13 In Thailand, democracy is just a fig leaf for kleptocracy. No better than Russia in most respects. Light on killings in recent times, and more evolved into weaponising the legal system and layers of corrupt bureaucracy. Thailand has had 13 successful and 9 unsuccessful coups in 100 years. If anyone dares really implement change, then no doubt another will follow. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just shows you how these people are so frightened of the Move Forward Party I hope the court throws the case out only time will tell ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 There will not be a democratically elected government in Thailand in my life time. Perhaps in 2150, but I will be all out of breath by then.🤣 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Another affront to democracy. The country is becoming a joke every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Saucage Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 37 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Not just Asia. It is the way totalitarian dictatorships work. I won't call Thailand an outright totalitarian dictatorship but it is a dictatorship by stealth. The military and who they serve are the true rulers here. The people are mearly subjects who get token elections every now and again with the real outcome know well in advance. The govt (military) does not rule for the people. They subjugate any sniff of democracy to maintain their power. Not just Asia, very true! In all the so called Western democracies the people are merely subjects who get token elections again and again by parties whose leaders all are alumni of the same cadre factories e.g. in Davos, and voter fraud after the elections is committed by routinely and intentionally breaking campaign pledges after the elections. In Germany nowadays the police raids the homes of people who criticise politicians, for example for asking if the minister of economy is able to count from 1 to 3, that's the new German form of lese majesty. And the cartell of old parties plans to abolish the biggest real opposition party, while critical voices are silenced by the DSA (Digital Services Act of von der Leyens corrupt EU). That's now the new guided "democracy" in Germany. And Germany is just one example from the West. Is that all really better than Thailand? I am all for democracy. But during the last four years in the West I learned that real democracy exists nowhere on this planet. Thailand is not so different to the West. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 15 hours ago, smedly said: how can government function without the largest party present, forgive them for they know not what they do laughting hub of the world............shameful The party will still be there either as an independent or under a different name. Remember, this is the same thing they did to Thaksin when he started, and he just kept coming back. Thai rak Thai 1098- 2007 People Power Party 2007-2007 Pheu Thi Party 2007 - present You also have to remember that schools are out, and students only have a little to do. Yes, it is hot out, but that will not stop the protestors. If this passes and is accepted by the courts, I think the water fights will start sooner than expected. Just what the government needs when it is trying to convince people to come to Thailand. protests and unrest leading up to Songkran. The joke of it is that they are not trying to get rid of the article. They are only trying to limit who can charge someone. How many times have we seen the PPP attack dog threaten people? Thaksin is coming up on charges do you really think the PTP wants this hanging over their head when that happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingstonkid Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Lese Majeste is more common thatn we think LOL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lèse-majesté Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby1947 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Not a problem. Putin and his mob will be in power shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidneybear Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, bob smith said: MFP is a totally organic, homegrown movement. nothing to do with the west. leave your conspiracy theories at the door next time please! bob. Is that so? Read its manifesto and compare with that of the Democrat party. "Conspiracy theory" is a work out term coined by the CIA in the 50's - it's used to denounce an opponent, rather than conduct a sensible debate, so go away if you have nothing sensible to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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