Absolute poverty: UK sees biggest rise for 30 years

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

As I've said, you really are losing your touch.

 

Like I said, I have made no edits since you previously quoted my post. You can see from my post timing, my post and edit occurred within a minute.

 

It's taken you a long time to create some make believe that I made the whole thing up.

 

It would be funny if not defaming and sad.

 

By the way, you might wish to edit errors in your grammar/spelling, just as I did.

 

 

I have absolutely no objection to ‘a recently surveyed parent’ commenting on my spelling or grammar.

 

If it gives a ‘recently surveyed parent’ the occasional opportunity to be right about something. 
 

 

[youreavinalaff]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I have absolutely no objection to ‘a recently surveyed parent’ commenting on my spelling or grammar.

 

If it gives a ‘recently surveyed parent’ the occasional opportunity to be right about something. 
 

 

As it happens, had I been surveyed, I would have pointed out I and my wife are not near to poverty. We don't have any kids, 14 or under, and therefore our figure for calculation is 1.5. We spend our own money and do not receive universal credit or child benefit. 

 

Your troll cup used to runneth over.

 

Now, your troll barrel is empty.

[ozimoron]

7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

It has double glazing. Not sure about anything else.

 

Our home has wood framed, single pane, victorian sash windows. No wall insulation. There is roof insulation.

 

Haven't there been many free insulation grant schemes over the last many years?

 

Dunno, I have never been to the UK and grew up in the tropics. It just occurred to me that good insulation might explain why others paid so much for heating. People who rent tend to live in less well insulated houses from what I have read.

[youreavinalaff]

7 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Dunno, I have never been to the UK and grew up in the tropics. It just occurred to me that good insulation might explain why others paid so much for heating. People who rent tend to live in less well insulated houses from what I have read.

No, incorrect.

 

All rented properties are assessed for energy efficiency. The grades are A to G, G being the best. Rental properties must be at level E.

 

The property I own is level D.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, Phulublub said:

I'm pretty woke, but agree with every word Doctor Tom said.

 

PH

Perhaps you are unusual or not as woke as you think you are.

 

Never mind, I'm a socialist ( small s ) but I believe in some right wing policies eg being responsible for one self, getting a job if of working age, stopping illegal immigration, locking criminals up for as long as possible ( just locking up young criminals would be a start ) etc.

[Chomper Higgot]

8 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

As it happens, had I been surveyed, I would have pointed out I and my wife are not near to poverty. We don't have any kids, 14 or under, and therefore our figure for calculation is 1.5. We spend our own money and do not receive universal credit or child benefit. 

 

Your troll cup used to runneth over.

 

Now, your troll barrel is empty.

Had you been surveyed your response would be included in the data.

 

As it is your accounts on here are merely anecdotal.

The Government’s own data is backed up by that from the Joseph Roundtree Foundation, Age Concern, and numerous academic research papers.

 

It all confirms the depressing reality of millions of people in the UK living in poverty.

 

I do understand that ‘you’re all right Jack’, it’s a habit of yours to tell us.

 

 

 

 

 

[Doctor Tom]

On 3/22/2024 at 1:17 PM, Rotweiler said:

Easy answer.  Starts with a B and ends with an exit.

Utter nonsense.  Brexit has not produced a lazy, entitled workforce. 

[Doctor Tom]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Government’s own data is backed up by that from the Joseph Roundtree Foundation, Age Concern, and numerous academic research papers.

 

It all confirms the depressing reality of millions of people in the UK living in poverty.

Its nonsense and those organization's you quote have other agendas, unconnected with poverty and more to do with ultra left wing bias.  Go to Africa, come to Asia, then you see real poverty and a total lack of opportunity.  The West is soft, entitled, lazy, badly served by their leaders,  and expect to be looked after in all circumstances. It wasn't always like that, immediately Post WW2, but it sure is now. 'Millions living in Poverty in the UK', what a sick joke that statement is. They very often have only themselves to blame and what is 'poverty' to a westerner would be luxury to the real poor of the World.  . 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Its nonsense and those organization's you quote have other agendas, unconnected with poverty and more to do with ultra left wing bias.  Go to Africa, come to Asia, then you see real poverty and a total lack of opportunity.  The West is soft, entitled, lazy, badly served by their leaders,  and expect to be looked after in all circumstances. It wasn't always like that, immediately Post WW2, but it sure is now. 'Millions living in Poverty in the UK', what a sick joke that statement is. They very often have only themselves to blame and what is 'poverty' to a westerner would be luxury to the real poor of the World.  . 

The Joseph Roundtree Foundation is left wing?

 

Age Concern is left Wing?

 

Government are left wing?

 

And of course if you can point to anyone anywhere in the planet that is suffering a worse level of poverty, you’ve found your argument do dismiss poverty in the UK.

 

Now, what was it you were saying about nonsense?

 

[Chomper Higgot]

17 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

Utter nonsense.  Brexit has not produced a lazy, entitled workforce. 

Brit bashing again.

[Doctor Tom]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Joseph Roundtree Foundation is left wing?

 

Age Concern is left Wing?

 

Government are left wing?

 

And of course if you can point to anyone anywhere in the planet that is suffering a worse level of poverty, you’ve found your argument do dismiss poverty in the UK.

 

Now, what was it you were saying about nonsense?

 

Try no pension provision, no health care, few social services, poor education system, thats poverty and thats just South East Asia.  Add war, rape and early death, thats many parts of Africa, check out Sudan and the Congo.  Try a broken society, thats Afghanistan, Pakistan,  Bangladesh and Haiti.  Poverty in the UIK, don't make me laugh.  Why my friend do you think that Europe has a massive immigration problem? They are not coming to watch football and shop at Harrods. . 

[Doctor Tom]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Brit bashing again.

Sure I bash the place, its a dysfunctional sxxx hole, but its still not as bad as most of the World in providing societal support. Unfortunately it does it very badly but it still does it. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Doctor Tom said:

Try no pension provision, no health care, few social services, poor education system, thats poverty and thats just South East Asia.  Add war, rape and early death, thats many parts of Africa, check out Sudan and the Congo.  Try a broken society, thats Afghanistan, Pakistan,  Bangladesh and Haiti.  Poverty in the UIK, don't make me laugh.  Why my friend do you think that Europe has a massive immigration problem? They are not coming to watch football and shop at Harrods. . 

So there’s no poverty in the UK because people in some other parts of the world are poorer.

 

That’ll be comfort to kids arriving British schools hungry, old folks who can’t afford to hear their homes, women who can’t afford tampons or sanitary towels during their period.

 

 

[Doctor Tom]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So there’s no poverty in the UK because people in some other parts of the world are poorer.

 

That’ll be comfort to kids arriving British schools hungry, old folks who can’t afford to hear their homes, women who can’t afford tampons or sanitary towels during their period.

 

 

BS 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Doctor Tom said:

BS 

Well of course, because it’s the argument you yourself make.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So there’s no poverty in the UK because people in some other parts of the world are poorer.

 

That’ll be comfort to kids arriving British schools hungry, old folks who can’t afford to hear their homes, women who can’t afford tampons or sanitary towels during their period.

 

 

 

   Their homes need to speak up a bit 

[JonnyF]

21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So there’s no poverty in the UK because people in some other parts of the world are poorer.

 

Poverty has always been a relative term. Not being able to afford another tat and 20 B&H doesn't make you poor. 

 

21 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

That’ll be comfort to kids arriving British schools hungry, old folks who can’t afford to hear their homes, women who can’t afford tampons or sanitary towels during their period.

 

 

 

That should read "People" who have periods Chomps. Men can have periods too. Don't be so exclusive. 

[Nick Carter icp]

29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So there’s no poverty in the UK because people in some other parts of the world are poorer.

 

That’ll be comfort to kids arriving British schools hungry, old folks who can’t afford to hear their homes, women who can’t afford tampons or sanitary towels during their period.

 

 

 

   You can get free tampons from these locations in the UK

 

https://www.trusselltrust.org/

 

[sammieuk1]

On 3/21/2024 at 11:43 PM, Skipalongcassidy said:

Brits cannot solve their own problems but all of them on this forum have all the answers for the USA

Spot on and it's not Trump 🤔

[youreavinalaff]

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Had you been surveyed your response would be included in the data.

 

As it is your accounts on here are merely anecdotal.

The Government’s own data is backed up by that from the Joseph Roundtree Foundation, Age Concern, and numerous academic research papers.

 

It all confirms the depressing reality of millions of people in the UK living in poverty.

 

I do understand that ‘you’re all right Jack’, it’s a habit of yours to tell us.

 

 

 

 

 

I've never said anything about your situation, and I didn't know your name was Jack.

 

So, it can't have been me that said it.

[NanLaew]

On 3/24/2024 at 12:10 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Old people live luxurious lives , they go to the Caribbean for the winter and spent the winter there 

 

Ah, so that's where your mum and dad went without telling you?

 

I can appreciate your anger.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Ah, so that's where your mum and dad went without telling you?

 

I can appreciate your anger.

 

   Do stop being so juvenile .

I was making a point that one example doesn't mean everyone does the same thing and why would I be angry that my Parents went abroad without telling me ?

[NanLaew]

23 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do stop being so juvenile .

I was making a point that one example doesn't mean everyone does the same thing and why would I be angry that my Parents went abroad without telling me ?

 

Oh, so they didn't change the locks then?

 

Tell us more about free tampons.

[Nick Carter icp]

37 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Oh, so they didn't change the locks then?

 

Tell us more about free tampons.

 

  As I don't have a key to their house, I wouldn't know whether they have changed the locks .

You can get free tampons from the locations listed in the link , what more info do you want ?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/25/2024 at 3:19 PM, Doctor Tom said:

Try no pension provision, no health care, few social services, poor education system, thats poverty and thats just South East Asia.  Add war, rape and early death, thats many parts of Africa, check out Sudan and the Congo.  Try a broken society, thats Afghanistan, Pakistan,  Bangladesh and Haiti.  Poverty in the UIK, don't make me laugh.  Why my friend do you think that Europe has a massive immigration problem? They are not coming to watch football and shop at Harrods. . 

I do like your posts. It's good to read a poster with common sense, something apparently lacking in city councils and governments of western countries.

I have to pay taxes, but it irks me that our taxes are wasted on social idiocy and policies that do nothing for society in general, but get the woke vote.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/25/2024 at 4:05 PM, sammieuk1 said:

Spot on and it's not Trump 🤔

I might agree with that as long as you included "or Biden" at the end of your sentence.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 3/25/2024 at 3:22 PM, Doctor Tom said:

Sure I bash the place, its a dysfunctional sxxx hole, but its still not as bad as most of the World in providing societal support. Unfortunately it does it very badly but it still does it. 

Actually it's brilliant at providing societal support.

The NHS, tax free threshold for income, free transport in London over 60, free prescriptions over 60, flats for the poor. I had it sweet once I turned 60, though I never understood why the largess started at 60 and not the retiring age. If I had liked living in the UK I'd be there now, but they have a pension linked to payments ( I only had 10 years contribution ), while NZ gives the full amount even if never worked a day in the life.

Try living in NZ on a pension- tax from dollar 1, pay full price for GP visits and prescriptions, hugely expensive dentists, and social housing is a very bad joke, even if can get anything at all. Old people do have a card that gives us free travel on buses between 9 am and 3 pm ( at least that is what it was last time I went on a bus ), but the bus service ain't that great so a car is pretty essential, with all the expense of that.

 

If people in the UK woke up they might realise that they ain't as badly off as they might be.

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Actually it's brilliant at providing societal support.

The NHS, tax free threshold for income, free transport in London over 60, free prescriptions over 60, flats for the poor. I had it sweet once I turned 60, though I never understood why the largess started at 60 and not the retiring age. If I had liked living in the UK I'd be there now, but they have a pension linked to payments ( I only had 10 years contribution ), while NZ gives the full amount even if never worked a day in the life.

Try living in NZ on a pension- tax from dollar 1, pay full price for GP visits and prescriptions, hugely expensive dentists, and social housing is a very bad joke, even if can get anything at all. Old people do have a card that gives us free travel on buses between 9 am and 3 pm ( at least that is what it was last time I went on a bus ), but the bus service ain't that great so a car is pretty essential, with all the expense of that.

 

If people in the UK woke up they might realise that they ain't as badly off as they might be.

 

I agree with your opinions and thoroughly commend your sentiments. Well said.