11 minutes ago, transam said:

Links please....

Don't bother. 

 

The diary was stolen, there's no chain of custody, so anything in it is suspect.

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Woman who stole and sold Ashley Biden diary sentenced to month in jail and home detention

 

Your internet friends must be working overtime to make you look foolish here. I'll give you a hint: when someone passes you a talking point, check it out before posting.

 

Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important

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2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

5 hours ago, proton said:

 

Which are usually bare faced lies, he's not done the one about showering with teenage daughter Ashley yet, which according to her diary was true and abuse. In fact he never mentions her at all, it's always the dead son and the drug user one which he's 'proud of'.

Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do.

 

Example: "sleepy Joe".

 

The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often.

Edited April 20, 20242 yr by Danderman123

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important

Links that provide evidence please, I have asked three times now........🤔

If not, bail out........🤗

8 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Yes, why discuss something that has actually happened and actually been said when the words of your idol are actually written down in front of you? Better to invent an imaginary claim that nobody has ever heard or heard said. Then let's go back to the 1900's and the Civil War because that's REALLY what this election is about. LOL. It is reminding me of a certain song from the Wizard of Oz (sung by the Straw Man, so doubly apropos). Actually, that's a good allegory for our current discussion. We have Dorothy, played by Kamala Harris, and the three MAGA representing the heartless, the brainless and the cowardly.

Damn JCauto bringing it!

23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do.

 

Example: "sleepy Joe".

 

The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often.

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty           NAZI playbook

27 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody".

 

Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes.

the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing  (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction )    they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it.

1 minute ago, proton said:

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

Links please, if you have none, then withdraw your "story"...🤔

 

8 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Yeah? Show us the video of the Democratic assault on the Capitol with the violence, the B&E, the attempts to take over the Senate...

I think he was being sarcastic -no?

On 4/18/2024 at 4:23 PM, transam said:

You sound worried........🤭

Winner of the thread

On 4/18/2024 at 6:49 PM, proton said:

 

I never brought Gettysburg up

no donnie did 

On 4/18/2024 at 7:03 PM, atpeace said:

From that same poll from Echelon Insights poll being discussed.  At least they have a better sense of humor than 90% of you all.

 

"58% OF LIKELY VOTERS SAY DONALD TRUMP WOULD PERFORM BETTER IN A HOT DOG EATING CONTEST, WHILE 13% SAY THE SAME FOR BIDEN."

 

Their website link ( https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/apr2024-verified-voter-omnibus/. 

 

It's obvious that those polled think  Biden is a terrible President but the alternative is somehow worse. 

well then it's obvious they aren't very bright

On 4/18/2024 at 8:58 PM, Negativ said:

 

So Biden is leading but not really.

Nice

News outlets these days...

 

JFC  

22 hours ago, candide said:

And they will vote for the pro-Palestinian Trump!

Oh wait! 😀

Yes vote for the GOP they love GAZA

i'm a Trump man  ....

11 hours ago, charleskerins said:

A time of peace hmmm  tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks  or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for "    as he mispronounced the widows name.  Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries   Kurds abandoned   get outta here with your propaganda   

Just to be clear, it wasn't me who raised the 'time of peace' thing.  I was replying to it.  I know you know that Mr Charles but others may not.

2 hours ago, charleskerins said:

the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing  (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction )    they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it.

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

51 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

Would you have believed her if she had denied it?

9 hours ago, proton said:

 

OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it

On the particular issue of the diary, your information is wrong, but you don't seem to understand that.

7 hours ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

One problem is that you are citing content from an alternate version of the diary, which was published online:

 

https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-posts-claim-contents-181600349.html

11 hours ago, proton said:

 

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

The problem is that what was published online was never verified.

20 hours ago, proton said:

Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be?

As the Yahoo article that @Danderman123linked to says:

 

Quote

While there is strong evidence the diary exists, the authenticity of the content of these and other "leaked" pages published online has not been confirmed. Just because a diary exists does not mean that the images presented by National File are that diary.

Don't forget that even Project Veritas, the far right-wing outlet that originally received the diary, wouldn't publish it because it couldn't be confirmed.

Edited April 21, 20242 yr by GroveHillWanderer

On 4/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, candide said:

What has  Trump's position about Ukraine to do with his position about Israel and Palestine?

 

Trump has always been pro-Netanyahu

 

JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States opens its new embassy in Jerusalem on May 14, a move that has delighted Israel and infuriated Palestinians.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump unveiled his long-awaited Mideast peace plan Tuesday alongside a beaming Benjamin Netanyahu, presenting a vision that matched the Israeli leader’s hard-line, nationalist views while falling far short of Palestinian ambitions.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-jerusalem-politics-f7d36b9023309ce4b1e423b02abf52c6

 

No, Trump and Netanyahu can't stand each other. Netanyahu congratulated Biden for his win in 2020, following which Trump said "F*** him".

 

The reason why Netanyahu dislikes Trump is because Trump laid a trap and Bibi fell in it.

Trump is a deal maker and will lean into the opposing party's weaknesses to get what he wants. In the case of Netanyahu, who is a zealous messianic fanatic, it wasn't too difficult: giving Jerusalem to Israel and cancelling the US' contribution to the UNRWA caused an ecstatic Bibi to accept Trump's deal. This was so absolutely outrageous that it instantly caused the Arab League to unite against Israel (annihilating years of effort to undermine and subvert it through Saudi Arabi, Qatar, Jordan and Oman) whilst ending the hypocritical international status quo on the colonization of Palestine by shining a spotlight on the issue.

When I look at the objective result of his Peace to Prosperity plan, to me it seems Trump is everything but a friend of Israel.

On 4/18/2024 at 3:23 PM, Berkshire said:

Amazing how you guys would believe such nonsense. 

Donald told them

On 4/18/2024 at 1:58 PM, Excogitator said:

An easy walk in the park, and a second term for Biden.

 

Trumps appeal is mainly with angry white male racists, hicks and incels, and there just aren't enough of them... 

Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers.

 

Simply not enough of them to win 

2 minutes ago, G_Money said:

Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers.

 

Simply not enough of them to win 

Ahhh ya forgot the lady folk the entire middle class labor seniors all the positive legislation lol don’t be so lazy lmao 🤣 trumps circling the bowl it’s nice to see the Republican Party starting to show a little bit of spine ….

On 4/20/2024 at 2:59 AM, charleskerins said:

A time of peace hmmm  tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks  or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for "    as he mispronounced the widows name.  Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries   Kurds abandoned   get outta here with your propaganda   

 

All existing, long-standing theatres of operations initiated and maintained by the warmongering establishment which Trump does not favour.

John Bolton, a prominent member of said establishment, said he would support Dick Cheney, mister “war on terror” himself, rather than Trump. Bolton also wants Israel to attack Iran and escalate tensions because what he wants is war, always more war. Of course he is against Trump, when Trump gets in he will dissolve NATO.

Bolton says he will write in Dick Cheney for president again this year
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4587685-bolton-dick-cheney-write-in-2024-president/

John Bolton calls on Israel to 'destroy' Iran's nuclear weapons, wants 'far stronger' attack on Iran
https://thepostmillennial.com/john-bolton-calls-on-israel-to-destroy-irans-nuclear-weapons-wants-far-stronger-attack-on-iran

Trump will pull US out of NATO if he wins election, ex-adviser warns
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/politics/us-out-nato-second-trump-term-former-senior-adviser/index.html