Danderman123 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, proton said: Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody". Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, proton said: Which are usually bare faced lies, he's not done the one about showering with teenage daughter Ashley yet, which according to her diary was true and abuse. In fact he never mentions her at all, it's always the dead son and the drug user one which he's 'proud of'. Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do. Example: "sleepy Joe". The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often. Edited April 20 by Danderman123 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, proton said: Found or stolen is irrelevant, it's the contents that are important Links that provide evidence please, I have asked three times now........🤔 If not, bail out........🤗 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, JCauto said: Yes, why discuss something that has actually happened and actually been said when the words of your idol are actually written down in front of you? Better to invent an imaginary claim that nobody has ever heard or heard said. Then let's go back to the 1900's and the Civil War because that's REALLY what this election is about. LOL. It is reminding me of a certain song from the Wizard of Oz (sung by the Straw Man, so doubly apropos). Actually, that's a good allegory for our current discussion. We have Dorothy, played by Kamala Harris, and the three MAGA representing the heartless, the brainless and the cowardly. Damn JCauto bringing it! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post charleskerins Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 23 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Most of the claims about Biden from the Trump side are projection - Trump claims that Biden does what Trump does, or would like to do. Example: "sleepy Joe". The Nazis used projection sparingly, but Trump does it often. Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty NAZI playbook 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 27 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody". Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes. OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 28 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You don't seem to understand the concept of "chain of custody". Nor that someone who steals a diary for political purposes is likely to edit the contents for political purposes. the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction ) they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted April 20 Popular Post Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, proton said: OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it Links please, if you have none, then withdraw your "story"...🤔 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 8 hours ago, JCauto said: Yeah? Show us the video of the Democratic assault on the Capitol with the violence, the B&E, the attempts to take over the Senate... I think he was being sarcastic -no? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/18/2024 at 4:23 PM, transam said: You sound worried........🤭 Winner of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/18/2024 at 6:49 PM, proton said: I never brought Gettysburg up no donnie did 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/18/2024 at 7:03 PM, atpeace said: From that same poll from Echelon Insights poll being discussed. At least they have a better sense of humor than 90% of you all. "58% OF LIKELY VOTERS SAY DONALD TRUMP WOULD PERFORM BETTER IN A HOT DOG EATING CONTEST, WHILE 13% SAY THE SAME FOR BIDEN." Their website link ( https://echeloninsights.com/in-the-news/apr2024-verified-voter-omnibus/. It's obvious that those polled think Biden is a terrible President but the alternative is somehow worse. well then it's obvious they aren't very bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 On 4/18/2024 at 8:58 PM, Negativ said: So Biden is leading but not really. Nice News outlets these days... JFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charleskerins Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 22 hours ago, candide said: And they will vote for the pro-Palestinian Trump! Oh wait! 😀 Yes vote for the GOP they love GAZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston broke Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 i'm a Trump man .... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 11 hours ago, charleskerins said: A time of peace hmmm tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for " as he mispronounced the widows name. Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries Kurds abandoned get outta here with your propaganda Just to be clear, it wasn't me who raised the 'time of peace' thing. I was replying to it. I know you know that Mr Charles but others may not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, charleskerins said: the diary was given to Judicial Watch a right wing (i don't know what you would call these groups /websites that pop up and gain traction ) they refused to publish it because they couldn't verify it. Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 51 minutes ago, proton said: Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be? Would you have believed her if she had denied it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 hours ago, proton said: OK, you are a Biden supporter trying to defend the indefensible creep, we get it On the particular issue of the diary, your information is wrong, but you don't seem to understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 7 hours ago, proton said: Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be? One problem is that you are citing content from an alternate version of the diary, which was published online: https://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-posts-claim-contents-181600349.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 11 hours ago, proton said: Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be? The problem is that what was published online was never verified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GroveHillWanderer Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 (edited) 20 hours ago, proton said: Ashley has never denied it's hers and in her hand writing, why would that be? As the Yahoo article that @Danderman123linked to says: Quote While there is strong evidence the diary exists, the authenticity of the content of these and other "leaked" pages published online has not been confirmed. Just because a diary exists does not mean that the images presented by National File are that diary. Don't forget that even Project Veritas, the far right-wing outlet that originally received the diary, wouldn't publish it because it couldn't be confirmed. Edited April 21 by GroveHillWanderer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/19/2024 at 4:31 PM, candide said: What has Trump's position about Ukraine to do with his position about Israel and Palestine? Trump has always been pro-Netanyahu JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The United States opens its new embassy in Jerusalem on May 14, a move that has delighted Israel and infuriated Palestinians. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1I810Z/ WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump unveiled his long-awaited Mideast peace plan Tuesday alongside a beaming Benjamin Netanyahu, presenting a vision that matched the Israeli leader’s hard-line, nationalist views while falling far short of Palestinian ambitions. https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-ap-top-news-international-news-jerusalem-politics-f7d36b9023309ce4b1e423b02abf52c6 No, Trump and Netanyahu can't stand each other. Netanyahu congratulated Biden for his win in 2020, following which Trump said "F*** him". The reason why Netanyahu dislikes Trump is because Trump laid a trap and Bibi fell in it. Trump is a deal maker and will lean into the opposing party's weaknesses to get what he wants. In the case of Netanyahu, who is a zealous messianic fanatic, it wasn't too difficult: giving Jerusalem to Israel and cancelling the US' contribution to the UNRWA caused an ecstatic Bibi to accept Trump's deal. This was so absolutely outrageous that it instantly caused the Arab League to unite against Israel (annihilating years of effort to undermine and subvert it through Saudi Arabi, Qatar, Jordan and Oman) whilst ending the hypocritical international status quo on the colonization of Palestine by shining a spotlight on the issue. When I look at the objective result of his Peace to Prosperity plan, to me it seems Trump is everything but a friend of Israel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/18/2024 at 3:23 PM, Berkshire said: Amazing how you guys would believe such nonsense. Donald told them 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/18/2024 at 1:58 PM, Excogitator said: An easy walk in the park, and a second term for Biden. Trumps appeal is mainly with angry white male racists, hicks and incels, and there just aren't enough of them... Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers. Simply not enough of them to win 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, G_Money said: Similar to Biden and his drag queen followers. Simply not enough of them to win Ahhh ya forgot the lady folk the entire middle class labor seniors all the positive legislation lol don’t be so lazy lmao 🤣 trumps circling the bowl it’s nice to see the Republican Party starting to show a little bit of spine …. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattlesnake Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/20/2024 at 2:59 AM, charleskerins said: A time of peace hmmm tell that to the Ukranian sailors bombed by Putin or how about the israelis and Gazans killed in misslie attacks or how about the Iranian General killed by us , then the Iranians retaliated, wait what about our soldiers killed in Niger "he knew what he signed up for " as he mispronounced the widows name. Syria "a time of peace " ??????? -we engaged in a full scale battle with Russian mercenaries Kurds abandoned get outta here with your propaganda All existing, long-standing theatres of operations initiated and maintained by the warmongering establishment which Trump does not favour. John Bolton, a prominent member of said establishment, said he would support Dick Cheney, mister “war on terror” himself, rather than Trump. Bolton also wants Israel to attack Iran and escalate tensions because what he wants is war, always more war. Of course he is against Trump, when Trump gets in he will dissolve NATO. Bolton says he will write in Dick Cheney for president again this year https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4587685-bolton-dick-cheney-write-in-2024-president/ John Bolton calls on Israel to 'destroy' Iran's nuclear weapons, wants 'far stronger' attack on Iran https://thepostmillennial.com/john-bolton-calls-on-israel-to-destroy-irans-nuclear-weapons-wants-far-stronger-attack-on-iran Trump will pull US out of NATO if he wins election, ex-adviser warns https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/12/politics/us-out-nato-second-trump-term-former-senior-adviser/index.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rattlesnake Posted April 21 Popular Post Share Posted April 21 On 4/19/2024 at 11:12 PM, MangoKorat said: You cannot be seriously attributing that to Trump? Putin does exactly as he wants and as we are seeing at the moment, to a lesser extent so does Netanyahu. Trump would have had no effect on either conflict. His claim that he could stop the war in Ukraine in 1 day should be taken in the same way as his claim that Covid wouldn't kill anymore than 100,000 Americans. The total to date is now 1,219,487. Shame the bleach didn't work. The man doesn't even have half a brain, yet over 74 million people voted for him in 2020 - speaks volumes about the American electorate! The UK went through its own period of lunacy with Johnson - another who claimed there were witchhunts against him. Nutter or not, at least he had the decency to resign. No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you. 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, rattlesnake said: No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you. But you're not me and I don't support mysoginistic, devisive lunatics. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excogitator Posted April 22 Popular Post Share Posted April 22 (edited) 10 hours ago, rattlesnake said: No wars started between 2016 and 2020 and that is, of course, a coincidence. I would reassess my interpretative framework if I were you. What do you mean? Biden hasn't started any wars during his presidency either. You can't just attribute any eruption of war and conflict, anywhere in the world, to the sitting US president.. Because if you did, then Trump would be guilty of starting the following wars and conflicts: 2016 Niger Delta conflict 2016 Nagorno Karabakh war (Armenia-Azerbaijan) 2016 Kamwina Nsapu rebellion 2016 Conflict in Rakhine state, Myanmar 2016 Insurgency in Northern Chad 2017 Quatif unrest 2017 Marawi crisis 2017 Insurgency in Cabo Delgado 2017 Iraqi-Kurdish conflict 2018 Armenia-Azerbaijan clashes 2018 Israel-Gaza clashes 2018 Regional war involving Ethiopia and Eritrea 2019 India-Pakistan border skirmishes 2019 Israel-Gaza clashes Edited April 22 by Excogitator 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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