Takeaways from the Trump hush money trial: Opening statements and the first witness

[Danderman123]

48 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I wonder if they'll get that Dominion money back after a Georgia court case showed you actually can hack the machines with a Bic pen and a $10 USB chip?

 

FOX claimed that the machines were hacked, not that they theoretically can be hacked.

 

Do you think that Dominion voting machines were hacked to give Biden more votes in Georgia?

 

Yes, I know you can't answer that. I am just illustrating that you are trolling.

[Danderman123]

Just now, jerrymahoney said:

Thanks.  Your opinion.

The statute I cited is not my opinion.

[jerrymahoney]

32 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump's felony charges hinge on there being an underlying crime. I cited the statute for the underlying crime.

That the statute can proven as the "other crime" is your opinion

 

The 34 Counts against Trump are all  the same statute which includes:

 

The defendant, in the County of New York and elsewhere, on or about February 14, 2017, with intent to defraud and intent to commit another crime and aid and conceal the commission thereof, ...

 

 https://manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

Edited April 24 by jerrymahoney

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

I wonder if they'll get that Dominion money back after a Georgia court case showed you actually can hack the machines with a Bic pen and a $10 USB chip?

 

It wasn't about hacking. You won't know the facts if only reading Faux News or other dodgy media outlets. And more are on the way.

[earlinclaifornia]

3 hours ago, Roo Island said:

It's an opinion piece.

The Daily Wire does not claim to be without bias. We’re opinionated, we’re noisy, and we’re having a good time.

[jerrymahoney]

1 hour ago, earlinclaifornia said:

The Daily Wire does not claim to be without bias. We’re opinionated, we’re noisy, and we’re having a good time.

And the Daily Wire was just a rehash of the NYTimes article which is paywall.

[G_Money]

On 4/23/2024 at 8:48 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

For being extremely verbose you sure don't have much of value to say... 

 

Agree!  So much wasted text that says nothing.

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I don't think it will be difficult for the Prosecution to prove there was an underlying crime. David Pecker is testifying about all sorts of criming, both state and Federal.

 

Does anyone disagree?

The National Enquirer?  And your types think Fox is not credible.

[Chomper Higgot]

10 minutes ago, G_Money said:

The National Enquirer?  And your types think Fox is not credible.

It’s not the credibility of the National Enquirer that matters.

 

It’s the credibility of Pecker’s testimony under oath, back as it is with receipts.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, jerrymahoney said:

And the Daily Wire was just a rehash of the NYTimes article which is paywall.

Shugerman gives the prosecution some benefit of the doubt, writing that they could still “have some latitude to develop their case during trial.”

[impulse]

53 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

It wasn't about hacking. You won't know the facts if only reading Faux News or other dodgy media outlets. And more are on the way.

 

The reality is that you and I will never know what the case was really about, why they really settled, or what the terms of the settlement were.

[candide]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I wonder if they'll get that Dominion money back after a Georgia court case showed you actually can hack the machines with a Bic pen and a $10 USB chip?

 

But only after analysing the system in a lab for months.... 😃

[amexpat]

50 minutes ago, G_Money said:

The National Enquirer?  And your types think Fox is not credible.

This thread is amusing and serves only as entertainment.

 

Trying to reason with maga cult members is best left to professional deprogrammers. 

[Chomper Higgot]

I know what I’m hoping will be the main take away.

 

 

[Walker88]

The evidential exhibits shown today in the trial are quite entertaining, and yet more proof that EVERYTHING trump says negatively about anyone is projection about his own actions.

 

Trump got the term “fake news” into the lexicon, yet he was a key participant in the fake stories the National Enquirer (NE) put out in 2016 to defame trump’s opponents, according to Tuesday testimony by Mr Pecker. I guess trump should say “Nobody knows more about fake news than me”.

 

In one NE cover introduced in court, there was a fake story about Dr Ben Carson supposedly leaving a sponge in the head of a surgery patient, and the cover included a fake photo of the supposed patient, looking as if the kid suffered from Bell's Palsy.

 

A fake story about Hillary claimed that she introduced the emails into don, jr's account about "I LOVE IT" when he was scheduled for a meeting with a Russian to get dirt on HRC. Fake.

 

Another is a Daily Double in terms of projection. It is a cover saying "Ted Cruz Shamed by Porn Star". Not only is it fake, but it’s why trump is currently on trial: fear of being shamed by a porn star. As Tevye might have sung...projection....PROJECTION!

 

Finally, on yesterday's date in history, trump stood at the White House podium and suggested to actual medical authority Dr Birx that Covid might be cured with UV lights inserted into the body and disinfectant injected into people. Looking at that video again is hilarious, as trump is dead serious and acting as if he is some sort of expert, while the actual expert is cringing as he speaks.

Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? No contest, especially if you avoided the disinfectant injection.

[Skipalongcassidy]

18 hours ago, stevenl said:

It is not about left or right, it's about facts. Fox news is short on those.

Do you even read your posts?  It is totally about left and right... where you get your "facts"... and what constitutes what facts are real and acceptable.   https://www.businessinsider.com › most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8?

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Do you even read your posts?  It is totally about left and right... where you get your "facts"... and what constitutes what facts are real and acceptable.   https://www.businessinsider.com › most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8?

Whatever your sources, you post a lot of disinformation. Why is that?

 

 

[stevenl]

7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Do you even read your posts?  It is totally about left and right... where you get your "facts"... and what constitutes what facts are real and acceptable.   https://www.businessinsider.com › most-biased-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-nytimes-2018-8?

So an opinion piece on perceived bias relates to factual reporting?

Unfortunately that's the level of your posting on here.

[Roo Island]

18 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So an opinion piece on perceived bias relates to factual reporting?

Unfortunately that's the level of your posting on here.

It not perceived bias.

[impulse]

On 4/24/2024 at 12:49 PM, candide said:

On 4/24/2024 at 10:31 AM, impulse said:

 

I wonder if they'll get that Dominion money back after a Georgia court case showed you actually can hack the machines with a Bic pen and a $10 USB chip?

 

But only after analysing the system in a lab for months....

 

And you figure that any hackers didn't figure it out, even if it took a few months to cut the first USB chip?

[candide]

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And you figure that any hackers didn't figure it out, even if it took a few months to cut the first USB chip?

There is no proof anyone got a copy of the system before the election. Also note that the machines are not connected.

The only ones who got a copy of the system have been the Kraken team. They had to illegally enter the office and got caught on camera. That was after the election.

 

As usual, you have nothing.

[impulse]

11 minutes ago, candide said:

There is no proof anyone got a copy of the system before the election. Also note that the machines are not connected.

The only ones who got a copy of the system have been the Kraken team. They had to illegally enter the office and got caught on camera. That was after the election.

 

As usual, you have nothing.

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/14/politics/dominion-voting-georgia-vulnerabilities-2024/index.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-security-voting-machines-software-2024-80a23479d8a767ba9333b2324c4e424b

 

 

[candide]

15 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/14/politics/dominion-voting-georgia-vulnerabilities-2024/index.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/online-vulnerable-experts-find-nearly-three-dozen-u-s-voting-n1112436

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-security-voting-machines-software-2024-80a23479d8a767ba9333b2324c4e424b

 

 

2nd article from Jan 2020.

For the other articles, the risk originates in the breach by the Kraken team which made the system available on a server.

 

And anyway, there's no evidence the machines have been hacked for the 2020 election. No proof of massive fraud.

 

You have nothing, as usual, to prove there was massive fraud during the 2020 elections. Not your fault  nobody has.

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

19 hours ago, stevenl said:

So an opinion piece on perceived bias relates to factual reporting?

Unfortunately that's the level of your posting on here.

So only your opinion pieces are factual... typical liberal thought process... unfortunately for the forum that is your level on here.

[stoner]

On 4/24/2024 at 12:19 AM, Danderman123 said:

If the Prosecution used the word "fraud", they were using it in the layman's sense, not a legal sense.

 

pure speculation. 

[Danderman123]

17 hours ago, impulse said:

 

And you figure that any hackers didn't figure it out, even if it took a few months to cut the first USB chip?

Don't beat around the bush: do you believe Dominion voting machines were hacked during the 2020 Georgia election?

 

Just talking about potential hacking techniques is pointless. I could claim that someone installed counterfeit voting machines, theoretically.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 4/25/2024 at 8:06 AM, Danderman123 said:

Whatever your sources, you post a lot of disinformation. Why is that?

 

 

DISINFORMATION... that's a typical non response to someone else's perception when it doesn't support your narrative... what sources do  support your narrative... I'll wait. 

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 4/24/2024 at 11:36 AM, Roo Island said:

  You won't know the facts if only reading Faux News or other dodgy media outlets 

Faux is as dodgy as your NYTimes... just on opposite ends of perception.

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 4/26/2024 at 6:57 AM, stoner said:

 

pure speculation. 

That's all he ever offers and expects that we accept his opinion as fact...

[Skipalongcassidy]

On 4/25/2024 at 11:34 AM, Roo Island said:

It not perceived bias.

What pray tell is it...???