Popular Post Middle Aged Grouch Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 All over Europe or UK, the political mafia is freezing pensions and not adapting them to inflation. It is all the more angering andenraging, considering the trillions of dollars handed out blindly to Ukraine and it's highly corrupt bureaucracy. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Wobblybob said: 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: Tell them you live in the Philippines then you get full pension! I think that is a possible answer to those willing to think outside the box. I did an internet search and it's possible to open a Philippine bank account on line without even going to the Philippines. Surely finding a Philippine address can't be that difficult. Providing DWP with copies of the Philippines in and out stamps in your passport proving that you are living there for the required number of days will be if you're not living there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, Ralf001 said: AI writes it. Thanks.I hadn't seen the announcement.Intelligent people will draw their own conclusions on these cobbled together arrangements but no more on the subject as that might be considered "disrespectful". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, herfiehandbag said: If I was in the UK, I would receive an uprated Pension , Pension Credit, Housing Benefit, Winter Fuel Allowance, free NHS treatment ( which in my case would be quite expensive), a Bus Pass and probably other benefits and allowances. It should easily double, and more, what I cost the state! sounds like a compelling reason to move back home unless the tan hotties and sunshine outweigh the lack of freebies. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 2 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said: interesting: Most British Commonwealth countries are included in the frozen list;[8] these include countries, such as Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Thailand and India, as well as British overseas territories such as the Falkland Islands.[9] Wonder if Thailand knows the Brits claim it. from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frozen_state_pension No. Australia does not have a frozen pension. It's indexed. Getting it, however, is not easy. Can't be bothered explaing. Look it up. Edited April 26 by dinsdale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Providing DWP with copies of the Philippines in and out stamps in your passport proving that you are living there for the required number of days will be if you're not living there. Do you have a link for your assertion please Lou? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 14 minutes ago, Pouatchee said: 2 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said: Most British Commonwealth countries are included in the frozen list;[8] these include countries, such as Australia, Canada cant find anything to back what you said about canada. link please. Not hard to find evidence if you search the question... The following is a list of all the Frozen countries Countries where English is an official, or widely spoken, language are shown in Red. Afghanistan Congo, Democratic Republic (Zaire) Jordan Papua New Guinea St Helena & Deps Albania Cook Islands Kenya Paraguay St Lucia Algeria Costa Rica Kiribati Peru St Martins Andorra Cuba Kuwait St Vincent and the Grenadines Anguilla Djibouti Laos Qatar Sudan Antigua Dominican Commonwealth (Dominica ) Lebanon Rebublic Of Georgia Surinam Argentina Dominican Republic Lesotho Republic Of Armenia Swaziland Ascension Island Ecuador Liberia Republic Of Azerbaijan Syria Australia Egypt Libya Republic Of Belarus Tahiti The Bahamas El Salvador Macau Republic Of Kazakhstan Taiwan Bahrain Ethiopia Madagascar Republic Of Kyrgyzstan Tanzania Bangladesh Falkland Islands + Deps Malawi Republic Of Moldovia Thailand Barbuda Faroe Islands Malaysia Republic Of Turkmenistan The Russian Federation Belize Fiji Maldives Republic Of Uzbekistan Togo Benin Mexico Republic Of Yemen Tonga Bhutan The Gambia Monaco Rwanda Tours Bolivia Ghana Montserrat Trinidad and Tobago Botswana Greenland Morocco San Marino Tunisia Brazil Grenada Mozambique Sarawak Turks & Caicos Islands Brunei Darussalam Namibia Uganda Burkina Faso Guatemala Nepal Saudi Arabia Ukraine Burma Guinea Nevis, St Kitts Nevis Senegal Uruguay Cambodia (Kampuchea) Guyana New Caledonia Seychelles Vanuatu Cameroon Haiti New Zealand Sharjah Venezuela Canada Honduras Nicaragua Sierra Leone Vietnam Cape Verde Islands Hong Kong Niger Singapore Virgin Islands (British) Cayman Islands India Nigeria Solomon Islands Central African Republic Indonesia Norfolk Island Somalia Zambia Chile Iran Oman South Africa Zimbabwe China Iraq Pakistan South Korea Colombia Japan Panama Sri Lanka European Economic Area Member States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: You wonder if Thailand knows that Britons claim what? There is a semi-colon after the phrase "in the frozen list". I believe if you read it correctly, it lists examples of the countries as it states, "these include countries such as..." indicating that the heading; "Most British Commonwealth countries". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dinsdale Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said: sounds like a compelling reason to move back home unless the tan hotties and sunshine outweigh the lack of freebies. Stupid comment. Even the middle class is feeling the pinch with costs there. 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AlexRich Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 I think you need more than the UK State pension to survive in Thailand, even if you are benefitting from annual increases. In the UK you will have access to free healthcare as well as other benefits. In Thailand you are only one heart attack away from a financial catastrophe. I don’t believe the existing policy is fair, but it does raise the issue that you need a few income sources to live here comfortably, and close family who have your best interests at heart, preferably grown up children. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintdomingo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 hours ago, jayboy said: Another incompetently written story, repetitive and omitting several key factors.Who writes this stuff and equally importantly who undertakes quality control? That Mike Lister seems to know what he's talking about, they should give it to him to do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: 9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Providing DWP with copies of the Philippines in and out stamps in your passport proving that you are living there for the required number of days will be if you're not living there. Do you have a link for your assertion please Lou? There was a video on the subject posted a day or so ago explaining the documentation that the International Pensions Section of the DWP requires to evidence residency. You don't seriously think that they would just take the best part of half a million frozen pensioners' word for it, do you?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fondue zoo Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I'm lazy, how does the UK decide which countries to subject to frozen pensions while others remain unaffected? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Just now, Liverpool Lou said: There was a video on the subject posted a day or so ago explaining the documentation that the International Pensions Section of the DWP requires to evidence residency. You don't seriously think that they would just take the best part of half a million frozen pensioners' word for it, do you?! Possibly, the DWP don't come across as the sharpest tool in the box, however I asked you for a link and can we assume you don't have one. 1 1 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) 10 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said: 31 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: You wonder if Thailand knows that Britons claim what? There is a semi-colon after the phrase "in the frozen list". I believe if you read it correctly, it lists examples of the countries as it states, "these include countries such as..." indicating that the heading; "Most British Commonwealth countries". I know what it says, how it is written and what that means, it does not state that Thailand is a Commonwealth country as I suspect you are suggesting. "Most British Commonwealth countries are included in the frozen list; these include countries, such as Australia, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Thailand and India..." Edited April 26 by Liverpool Lou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, Wobblybob said: I think that is a possible answer to those willing to think outside the box. I did an internet search and it's possible to open a Philippine bank account on line without even going to the Philippines. Surely finding a Philippine address can't be that difficult. The problem is that is a “cunning plan” that even Baldrick would balk at. Countries are increasingly communicating with each other and swapping information on citizens. It’s only a matter of time before that ruse catches up on you and you’ll end up being prosecuted for fraud … not to mention having to pay back the extra with penalties, fines and interest. Simply not worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Just now, AlexRich said: The problem is that is a “cunning plan” that even Baldrick would balk at. Countries are increasingly communicating with each other and swapping information on citizens. It’s only a matter of time before that ruse catches up on you and you’ll end up being prosecuted for fraud … not to mention having to pay back the extra with penalties, fines and interest. Simply not worth it. A link was all I asked for, I wasn't looking for a sermon. 😀 1 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwebb8825 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, dinsdale said: Stupid comment. Even the middle class is feeling the pinch with costs there. all I did was offer an opinion on another poster's post. someone pee in your morning beer? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 10 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: A link was all I asked for, I wasn't looking for a sermon. 😀 Are you having a wobbly, Bob? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: 28 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: 35 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Providing DWP with copies of the Philippines in and out stamps in your passport proving that you are living there for the required number of days will be if you're not living there. Do you have a link for your assertion please Lou? There was a video on the subject posted a day or so ago BY YOU explaining the documentation that the International Pensions Centre of the DWP requires to evidence residency. You don't seriously think that they would just take the best part of half a million frozen pensioners' word for it, do you?! Here's your own link!... https://youtu.be/LfJcTLIMsUA?si=VWHcaLsgMSLmpK1E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 Just now, AlexRich said: Are you having a wobbly, Bob? Not at all, I am trying to research this injustice and reading 'he said she said' doesn't help in anyway, it would be nice to get hard facts instead of the usual negativity. I am not prepared to lie down without at first trying to find a solution to this and doing as much I can to resolve this ridiculous situation for myself at least, if other people wish to walk down the corridors of "we're all doomed" that is entirely up to them! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Liverpool Lou Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Possibly, the DWP don't come across as the sharpest tool in the box, however I asked you for a link and can we assume you don't have one. Why would you assume that?... You posted it! Give them a call, all the necessary phone numbers are there IN YOUR OWN LINKED VIDEO. https://youtu.be/LfJcTLIMsUAsi=VWHcaLsgMSLmpK1E Edited April 26 by Liverpool Lou 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 11 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said: all I did was offer an opinion on another poster's post. someone pee in your morning beer? I guess there are opinions and ill thought out opinions. As for someone peeing in my beer are talking about Thai beer ? If so hard to tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRich Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Not at all, I am trying to research this injustice and reading 'he said she said' doesn't help in anyway, it would be nice to get hard facts instead of the usual negativity. I am not prepared to lie down without at first trying to find a solution to this and doing as much I can to resolve this ridiculous situation for myself at least, if other people wish to walk down the corridors of "we're all doomed" that is entirely up to them! The only way “around it” in my view is if the UK change the rules. But if they choose not to change the rules I think you won’t find a way around it without getting yourself in a great deal of trouble, and that will be more financially painful than a frozen pension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soi3eddie Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 (edited) Deleted as now see already posted above. Edited April 26 by soi3eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Why would you assume that?... I was asking you for a link to your post. Stop avading my request, you either have one or not! 46 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said: Providing DWP with copies of the Philippines in and out stamps in your passport proving that you are living there for the required number of days will be if you're not living there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wobblybob Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 4 minutes ago, AlexRich said: The only way “around it” in my view is if the UK change the rules. But if they choose not to change the rules I think you won’t find a way around it without getting yourself in a great deal of trouble, and that will be more financially painful than a frozen pension. No disrespect Alex but I am trying to find out a way to receive a pension that I have worked for all my life, not to be fobbed off by a government that doesn't give a rats tail about us. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Teavee Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 48 minutes ago, dinsdale said: No. Australia does not have a frozen pension. It's indexed. Getting it, however, is not easy. Can't be bothered explaing. Look it up. The article/thread is about the UK State Pension being frozen in a number of countries including Australia, not that the Australian Pension is frozen anywhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 37 minutes ago, AlexRich said: The problem is that is a “cunning plan” that even Baldrick would balk at. Countries are increasingly communicating with each other and swapping information on citizens. It’s only a matter of time before that ruse catches up on you and you’ll end up being prosecuted for fraud … not to mention having to pay back the extra with penalties, fines and interest. Simply not worth it. Well, someone could just go and live there for a few months. It would definitely get the required upgrade done. Some folks would definitely be quids in, and might even decide to stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mike Teavee Posted April 26 Popular Post Share Posted April 26 41 minutes ago, fondue zoo said: I'm lazy, how does the UK decide which countries to subject to frozen pensions while others remain unaffected? It all comes down to countries that the UK has reciprocal agreements with, the list can be found here https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/reciprocal-agreements/reciprocal-agreements 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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