Ben Zioner Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) Had my Gallbladder removed 48 hours ago a Bumrungrad by Dr. Theerapol. I am amazed by the effectiveness of the laparoscopic procedure [as performed by Dr Theerapol]. No pain [and no food] at all during the the first 24 hours, some mild soreness since yesterday. Four meals and even coffee so far, and no problems whatsoever, I'll try salmon with a glass of white wine for lunch. The downside being that I am going to get even fatter... Once more, ladies and gentlemen, if you settle in Thailand make sure you have a proper health cover and you'll be safe. The above procedure costs about 270k, which is what you'd pay in Switzerland. But why not you'll get great doctors and great nurses. Edited April 28 by Ben Zioner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 aren't you meant to keep fatty foods to a minimum now? which is a good idea anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: aren't you meant to keep fatty foods to a minimum now? which is a good idea anyway That's what they recommend, it is said that the majority patients return to their normal diets after a few weeks. I won't try McDonald's to soon though.. I think we have to do our homework, I have eaten full fat yoghurt, croissant, danish, cheese, without the slightest but of stomach upset nor diarrhoea, if I pass the lunch (salmon and white wine) test I'll take my Lady to Fuji tomorrow. But I'll take imodium (as PEP not PREP) with me, just in case. Edited April 28 by Ben Zioner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 12 minutes ago, Ben Zioner said: That's what they recommend, it is said that the majority patients return to their normal diets after a few weeks. I won't try McDonald's to soon though.. I think we have to do our homework, I have eaten full fat yoghurt, croissant, danish, cheese, without the slightest but of stomach upset nor diarrhoea, if I pass the lunch (salmon and white wine) test I'll take my Lady to Fuji tomorrow. But I'll take imodium (as PEP not PREP) with me, just in case. Those charcoal tablet in 7 Eleven are better than imodium. A low fat diet is quite easy, i do it, just minimise junk food, once a week for ify stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 14 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: Had my Gallbladder removed 48 hours ago a Bumrungrad by Dr. Theerapol. I am amazed by the effectiveness of the laparoscopic procedure [as performed by Dr Theerapol]. No pain [and no food] at all during the the first 24 hours, some mild soreness since yesterday. Four meals and even coffee so far, and no problems whatsoever, I'll try salmon with a glass of white wine for lunch. The downside being that I am going to get even fatter... Once more, ladies and gentlemen, if you settle in Thailand make sure you have a proper health cover and you'll be safe. The above procedure costs about 270k, which is what you'd pay in Switzerland. But why not you'll get great doctors and great nurses. I had mine done at the government hospital for around 25k. The two downsides, they use gas to put you under, and you are put in a room with 5 others afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 (edited) 15 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: Had my Gallbladder removed 48 hours ago a Bumrungrad by Dr. Theerapol. I am amazed by the effectiveness of the laparoscopic procedure [as performed by Dr Theerapol]. No pain [and no food] at all during the the first 24 hours, some mild soreness since yesterday. Four meals and even coffee so far, and no problems whatsoever, I'll try salmon with a glass of white wine for lunch. The downside being that I am going to get even fatter... Once more, ladies and gentlemen, if you settle in Thailand make sure you have a proper health cover and you'll be safe. The above procedure costs about 270k, which is what you'd pay in Switzerland. But why not you'll get great doctors and great nurses. Always good for a positive outcome..... over the past year I suspect my insurance has paid out a lot... (about 700,000 baht in total) - its good to know that there are cheaper alternatives... i.e. your 270k surgery can be had for 25k in a public hospital... How will you insure yourself in your late 60's and 70's... even 80's while here ??? Edited April 28 by richard_smith237 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 58 minutes ago, bunnydrops said: I had mine done at the government hospital for around 25k. The two downsides, they use gas to put you under, and you are put in a room with 5 others afterward. And I wonder what the gas was like in a room of 5 guys who've just had a Cholecystectomy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstevens Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Following a gallbladder removal, taking an ox bile supplement will help to digest foods high in fat. You can Google "ox bile supplement" for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: How will you insure yourself in your late 60's and 70's... even 80's while here ??? Well, I am 71 one, and I don't intend to drop my current cover, which includes also one of my daughters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: And I wonder what the gas was like in a room of 5 guys who've just had a Cholecystectomy.... No comment Edited April 28 by Ben Zioner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 28 Author Share Posted April 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, mstevens said: Following a gallbladder removal, taking an ox bile supplement will help to digest foods high in fat. You can Google "ox bile supplement" for more info. Right now everything is just dreamlike. Yesterday I had some delicious salmon lunch. We shared a bottle of white wine with my wife. Followed by apple crumble and coffee. Light dinner and a good night sleep. And zero pain, I just can feel the cut under the ribs this morning, but a level of 1 to 2, and the last paracetamol was 8 hours ago. Edited April 28 by Ben Zioner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuantumQuandry Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 11 hours ago, bunnydrops said: I had mine done at the government hospital for around 25k. The two downsides, they use gas to put you under, and you are put in a room with 5 others afterward. Don't they all use gas to put you out? How did yours go? Did you get it because you had symptoms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 17 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Always good for a positive outcome..... over the past year I suspect my insurance has paid out a lot... (about 700,000 baht in total) - its good to know that there are cheaper alternatives... i.e. your 270k surgery can be had for 25k in a public hospital... Note quite. The 270k surgery was laparoscopic. The 25k will have been open. Only higher tier public hospitals can fo laparoscopic and this will cost more like 50k. Still much less than private, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 12 minutes ago, Sheryl said: Note quite. The 270k surgery was laparoscopic. The 25k will have been open. Only higher tier public hospitals can fo laparoscopic and this will cost more like 50k. Still much less than private, of course. I would add that the same package is offered for 210k at Medpark. But Cigna lists Bumrungrad as their preferred provider. And I must add that I am totally amazed by the quality of the service I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJoy Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/28/2024 at 9:23 AM, Ben Zioner said: costs about 270k My friend did it (laparoscopic) in India, in a 5 star hospital there, total cost = USD 800 This was a month ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 15 minutes ago, DrJoy said: My friend did it (laparoscopic) in India, in a 5 star hospital there, total cost = USD 800 This was a month ago Not really relevant to us in Thailand. But as I said in my OP the prices we pay here are those of Swiss private medical care. Which leads me to believe that Thai Immigration's requirement for health cover are rock bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sheryl said: Note quite. The 270k surgery was laparoscopic. The 25k will have been open. Only higher tier public hospitals can fo laparoscopic and this will cost more like 50k. Still much less than private, of course. No, mine was laparoscopic. 2 or 3 small holes. But like I said around 6 years ago. Can't even find them now. Just want to add it was at Suranari Korat Edited April 29 by bunnydrops addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: And I wonder what the gas was like in a room of 5 guys who've just had a Cholecystectomy.... I think I was the only one in the room that had one. Not sure what the others were in for except one had a broken leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zioner Posted April 30 Author Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, bunnydrops said: I think I was the only one in the room that had one. Not sure what the others were in for except one had a broken leg. And only one toilet for the 5 of you? Or maybe they got you catheterised? I know that some doctors do. I was a bit worried as I have one giant prostate, but they didn't. During the night I went to the toilet 5 or 6 times, had a weak flow and I had to drag the rip rig with me... They also said that could have a sore throat from intubation, but no trace of that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunnydrops Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Ben Zioner said: And only one toilet for the 5 of you? Or maybe they got you catheterised? I know that some doctors do. I was a bit worried as I have one giant prostate, but they didn't. During the night I went to the toilet 5 or 6 times, had a weak flow and I had to drag the rip rig with me... They also said that could have a sore throat from intubation, but no trace of that either. Yes, one toilet. That reminded me of something else about that stay. Every day a woman around 50 years old would come with what I believe were young nursing students. The girls (about 10 of them) would surround my bed and the older one would ask me questions in Enghish. "Have you had a pee and poop yet Baby?", "Have you washed up yet Baby?". She would tell the girls what I answered and all the girls would smile at me in approval. The "Baby" bit was a little disarming🫤. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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