Foreigner Assaults Phuket Tuk Tuk Driver Over Fare Disagreement

[Gottfrid]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Stupid post.........

Gottfrid, from the land of Angels.................🤔

You don´t have to be an angel to refrain from violent behavior. Oh, sorry, you are Brit and for you it´s just perfectly natural.

[Mayhem11]

I also guess this is another Ferang acting badly beat up. Maybe Ferang should go to Vietnam for good. And let the xenophobic Thai wonder why.

[transam]

Just now, Gottfrid said:

You don´t have to be an angel to refrain from violent behavior. Oh, sorry, you are Brit and for you it´s just perfectly natural.

Go back and read your post, it's daft, you think that folk like me are like some bloke who's come here for a cheap leg-over holiday..................🤔

I suppose your lot never do anything wrong, try thinking before you post....

[jesimps]

5 hours ago, Goat said:

He is obviously a Brit. And obviously in the wrong. Short changed the taxi driver and then physically assaulted him.

 

So why is it on this forum we can not use the headline "Brit assaults taxi driver"

Swiss Dave wasnt called Foreigner Dave. Russians, Chinese, Indians are always identified form the country they come from.

 

Why is it that the country that causes the most problems here are protected?

 

I am a foreigner, and I despise being tarred with the same brush as these idiots.

Grateful you show the stats which support your claim that Brits cause most of the problems here. I don't think the Thais would support you on that.

[MangoKorat]

5 hours ago, Goat said:

Why is it that the country that causes the most problems here are protected?

You do spout a lot of twoddle.

 

I thinnk you will find that the problems go with the age and booze - not nationality so wind your neck in and stop spouting your racist nonsense.  As we've seen in recent months there have been foreigners of all nationalities causing problems in Thailand.  The later headline also states that he's a Brit so where's the protection?

 

As I'm typing this I'm watching a bunch of American yobs beating one member of an opposite group to a pulp during the University riots in the US (on TV). Do you think they'd behave any differently if they were in Thailand?  They are just yobs and thugs and that mate - is a borderless phenomenon.

 

When I first came to Thailand there were very few male tourists under 40 - except for the backpackers and they've always had their own hangouts. I rarely saw any trouble in those days.  Thailand has become far more popular with younger tourists of all nationalities - they get rat ar5ed and violent.  I've seen groups of Indian youths causing trouble with Thais, Germans fighting each other and Arabs being rude and violent towards Thai street vendors. Most of that is because they are a much younger group of tourists than we used to see.

 

I have no idea what the mix of nationalities is in percentage terms but when I visit the bar areas most of the voices I hear are British.  They may or not make up the largest group but despite what the TAT say, there's still a hell of a lot of younger Brits visiting and a large expat community so its not so unsual to find them in the news.

[sambum]

1 hour ago, Captain Monday said:

For  youse what blame the driver what's the penalty for assault and battery on a Taxi man in UK? There is no excuse for violence.

 

Speekin 4 those of us wot blame the driver, I reckon he got off light! A slapped face (assault & battery?) for 600 baht profit! (non taxable) 

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Cabradelmar said:

The knucklehead tourist has now been detained by police... guilty as sin (and should be deported). He knows it (which is why he refused to show voluntary), everyone knows it. 

 

Well, we know that he was guilty as there was a photo circulated of him 'in action'. But do you really think that if someone assaults someone that it is grounds for deportation? Really?

 

Mind you, I come from a country where a foreigner can commit sexual assault and still be allowed to stay as he pretends to have converted to Christianity.

[Goat]

22 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

When I first came to Thailand there were very few male tourists under 40 -

 

 

Er, hanging out in the bars you probably didnt see them.

I had a much different experience. 

 

22 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

 

  I've seen groups of Indian youths causing trouble with Thais, Germans fighting each other and Arabs being rude and violent towards Thai street vendors. Most of that is because they are a much younger group of tourists than we used to see.

 

Got a link? 

[Elkski]

I believe passenger paid with 1000.  

Driver trying that teick wanted 1300 for a 400 fare. 

 

Always have lots of change before getting in taxi or rip  tuk

[sambum]

26 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

You do spout a lot of twoddle.

 

I thinnk you will find that the problems go with the age and booze - not nationality so wind your neck in and stop spouting your racist nonsense.  As we've seen in recent months there have been foreigners of all nationalities causing problems in Thailand.  The later headline also states that he's a Brit so where's the protection?

 

As I'm typing this I'm watching a bunch of American yobs beating one member of an opposite group to a pulp during the University riots in the US (on TV). Do you think they'd behave any differently if they were in Thailand?  They are just yobs and thugs and that mate - is a borderless phenomenon.

 

When I first came to Thailand there were very few male tourists under 40 - except for the backpackers and they've always had their own hangouts. I rarely saw any trouble in those days.  Thailand has become far more popular with younger tourists of all nationalities - they get rat ar5ed and violent.  I've seen groups of Indian youths causing trouble with Thais, Germans fighting each other and Arabs being rude and violent towards Thai street vendors. Most of that is because they are a much younger group of tourists than we used to see.

 

I have no idea what the mix of nationalities is in percentage terms but when I visit the bar areas most of the voices I hear are British.  They may or not make up the largest group but despite what the TAT say, there's still a hell of a lot of younger Brits visiting and a large expat community so its not so unsual to find them in the news.

 

I have been living in Thailand for many years in one of the tourist spots, and am very fortunate in the fact that I have never actually seen a proper fight!!! A bit of pushing and shoving, but nothing ever came of it. And yes I do go out drinking at the bars!!!

 

However, I have noticed, like yourself that the attitude of the younger generation of tourists can sometimes be a bit "arrogant", and that in itself flies in the face of what I was told about dealing with Thais  - always try to be polite, and you will get polite back. 

 

Another thing which seems to be on the increase is the similar attitude among the younger Thais towards foreigners, which is not helped by the constant barrage of "farangs behaving badly" articles. Just as an example, when the local Tesco supermarket opened here a few years ago, the mostly young staff, while inexperienced, were always helpful. Now, a lot of them are sullen, and if you ask about the location of a certain item, more often you will just get a "no have" and a walk away. Also if you say "khoob-khun krab" half the time you just get ignored.

 

So the problem is universal - I reckon a fall in standards down to poor education and a lack of discipline at home, and now I sound like my Dad did!

 

 

Edited May 1 by sambum

[Aussie999]

6 hours ago, Cabradelmar said:

Yeah. I'm sure it was a scam, that's why he went to the police 🙄 because you always involve the police when your swindle fails. That makes sense 😂 Beer swizzling foreign tourist with a propensity for violence must be given the benefit of the doubt 😂 then he declines to show up at the police station when summoned, so he was surely the victim of a scam 😂 

SMH, are you new to Thailand, tuk tuk mafia know that they have "friendly " cops, in their pocket.

[Aussie999]

10 hours ago, watchcat said:

 

all of them?

I was been generous... but I agree

[Cabradelmar]

22 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

But do you really think that if someone assaults someone that it is grounds for deportation? Really?

 

 Without a doubt

[Aussie999]

10 hours ago, rwill said:

Did you read the last sentence?  This is not the first time he has done it according to his father.

I did, the father of the tuk tuk driver

[Cabradelmar]

3 minutes ago, Aussie999 said:

SMH, are you new to Thailand, tuk tuk mafia know that they have "friendly " cops, in their pocket.

Everyone is not out to get you. Relax. Your tin foil hat is about to fall off.

[NativeBob]

this is over-exaggerated story.

tuk-tuk pilots got bitten daily - its normal reaction from thais. 

but once some sad dude got feisty - everyone scream "crucify deport him!" 

max is 200THB or nothing is better solution IMO

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

 

Lol. You basically just did the opposite of what I advised. You went more biased.

 

As I said, if the local isn't the victim, then how is siding with the local siding with the victim?

 

Its not worth anyones while even attempting to discuss any such matter with any logic... So Blinded by his hatred of the British he'd find negativity in someone who'd cured cancer if they turned out to be British.

 

There is no evidence of balance or critical thinking in any form for this poster - his bigotry is it, thats all he has to post with, day in day out, he'll find a way to post something negative against the Brits, even if it means searching the internet to find negative story.

[jonclark]

2 hours ago, Cabradelmar said:

The guy is guilty of being an a-hole with violent tendencies. Now detained by police. Indefensible. Sorry, thanks for playing

Is he a friend of yours as you seem to know him very well to make such sweeping statements? 

[metisdead]

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[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, Confuscious said:

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

The most obvious question is the simplest & has been asked by a number of people already…

 

…. why does the video not start from the beginning when the British lad handed over the money ???

 

 

Without this info we don’t know of the TukTuk was short-changing the Brit & then crying victim when the Brit reacted, or, if the Brit was just a pissed up jerk who’s forgotten what he’d paid with & then escalated.

 

BUT… Why wouldn’t they TukTuk drive show the Brit the note he’d just paid with ???? 
Could it be because the TukTuk drive knew it was a large note & change was due but was attempting to rip off the Tourist???

 

 

Stupid of your Brit to respond that way, but sometime events push people to react in a manner then don’t want. 

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I had an discussion with a shop owner that the person at the counter did not gave me the correct exchange.
I had paid with a 1000 baht bill and received exchange on 500 baht.
The security camera was only about 5 meter away.
But the recorded clip was not clear and I didn't make a fuzz out of it.
Solution: I always carry a 500 baht bill with me in the future and avoided that scam.
No fight involved (maybe because I was not an Englishman).

 

So.. you have to 'find a solution' to the problem of Thai's behaving in a less than honest manner at a point of sale...  

 

4 hours ago, Confuscious said:

No fight involved (maybe because I was not an Englishman).

 

Nope, thats not it, its nothing to do with your nationality and everything to do with the fact that having been here for a while you are familiar with the numerous ways in which the Thai person to whom you are handing over money may attempt to 'pull a fast one' and take precautions.

 

I do the same by always 'stating' which not I'm hading over if its a 500 baht or 1000 baht note, and get the to agree... 

Cashless payment does away with a lot of this BS, but with the TukTuks and Taxi's... its better just try and have the right change (not always possible though).

 

 

One of the possible scams I've seen is the taxi's that have this 'blue light' inside - its not for any 'cool' reason - its so you cant easily identify the colour of the cash you are holding over so they all look the same colour...  it makes it easy to make a mistake. 

 

 

 

 

[richard_smith237]

4 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

Step away from your crushing bias and use your brain for a change.

 

Thats a very very tough ask indeed.... 

 

When you are as bitter, twisted, unhinged and so bigoted that it impacts your every thought... asking someone of such character to use their brain in a manner which indicates basic intelligence is a huge ask... 

[Goat]

7 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Its not worth anyones while even attempting to discuss any such matter with any logic... So Blinded by his hatred of the British he'd find negativity in someone who'd cured cancer if they turned out to be British.

 

There is no evidence of balance or critical thinking in any form for this poster - his bigotry is it, thats all he has to post with, day in day out, he'll find a way to post something negative against the Brits, even if it means searching the internet to find negative story.

 

You are a bit off topic. It is about another violent Brit and is all over the Thai news. It isnt hatred, it is the news.

 

Thankfully the Thai police apprehended the thug and we are now all safer.

 

Locked up safely in a prison cell.

 

Despite what you might think, this is not the way to behave as a guest in a foreign country.

 

Not so tough now is the punk?

 

 

 

[Simon1287]

So let’s think through what happened here.

 

Presumably, the Brit offered either a 100 or 1000 Baht note through the window to the driver. (Did he have something to take from the boot (trunk)? I always pay while still sitting in the taxi if no luggage to take out first)

 

I notice the video does not show the part where the money changed hands, deliberately I am assuming as if the note was 100 Baht the driver would not have touched it or just possibly taken it and IMMEDIATELY pointed out that it was 100 Baht and kept it in plain sight.

 

What he would not have done, with 100% certainty, was to accept the 100 Baht and put it away somewhere so the Brit could not only not see it any longer but refused to show it to him again. That would only have happened if it was a 1000 Baht note.

 

The Brit was drunk one assumes which would have made the driver more inclined to scam anyway and like a lot of us the Brit is probably not the greatest fan of the Phuket taxi mafia and blew a fuse when scammed.

 

I have jumped in here without reading many comments so may be off track but can anyone seriously imagine the driver would have taken the “100 Baht” and tucked it away rather than immediately challenging the underpayment with the note in plain sight?

 

If the part of the conveniently edited video comes to light at the moment of money handover the truth will become obvious but I have a feeling that part has been locked away never to be seen again as it does not suit anyone involved other than the drunken Brit. Certainly not the driver or police.

 

On very rare occasions over the years I have accidentally offered a much lower note to someone that was required and without exception it was not even touched, let alone taken and hidden away so I could not see it. Just another Phuket taxi scam played on a drunk guy probably sick and tired of being scammed.

 

Silly to react the way he did (though something many people scammed by the Phuket taxi mafia probably enjoyed seeing) but fuses can blow after too many scams have happened to people, especially when drunk.

 

I have to say, as someone pointed out earlier, the face of the driver when it was over was not one of a person badly wronged and really had the look of "600 Baht is just the start Farang now police make you pay more to me and them!"

[Goat]

18 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Its not worth anyones while even attempting to discuss any such matter with any logic...

You do realise that the Brit has been arrested and in custody for a committing a violent crime?

 

And the tuk tuk driver hasnt been arrested for anything and will be joining his family for dinner.

 

And you are trying to spin this into what exactly because i havent joined your chorus of blaming the tuk tuk driver who was just working trying to make a living

[Liverpool Lou]

3 hours ago, 2long said:

Thanks for misquoting me, for whatever reason you chose.

Mine was a QUESTION saying 'IS IT possible that that the driver saw that the Brit was drunk and possibly new to Thailand, and scammed him?'

My apologies for misreading your comment.

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Goat said:

 

You are a bit off topic. It is about another violent Brit and is all over the Thai news. It isnt hatred, it is the news.

 

Thankfully the Thai police apprehended the thug and we are now all safer.

 

Locked up safely in a prison cell.

 

Despite what you might think, this is not the way to behave as a guest in a foreign country.

 

Not so tough now is the punk?

 

 

 

I wonder what "Brit" find you will post on tomorrow............🤭

[Goat]

 

If it had of been me I dont think I would have restrained myself as well as the young Thai gentleman did.

I would have driven off dragging tough boy along the road.

 

Patient people these Thais.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Goat said:

You do realise that the Brit has been arrested and in custody for a committing a violent crime?

 

And the tuk tuk driver hasnt been arrested for anything and will be joining his family for dinner.

 

And you are trying to spin this into what exactly because i havent joined your chorus of blaming the tuk tuk driver who was just working trying to make a living

But you don't know the full story, do you, just want to hang a Brit...

Let's wait and see what transpires, eh.........😉

[Goat]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

I wonder what "Brit" find you will post on tomorrow............🤭

Too busy tomorrow.

I will be out searching for the missus again.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Goat said:

Too busy tomorrow.

I will be out searching for the missus again.

No doubt, Rob.......🤗