Nick Carter icp Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: From ‘Carnage’ to ‘Final solution’, you’re on a roll Nicky. Just joining in with the constant Nazis comparisons and taunts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 On 5/5/2024 at 7:57 AM, Chomper Higgot said: Because over 40,000 people have been slaughtered, and because the US, UK and western democracies are funding the continuing war. Will you be provided evidence that the U.K are funding the current war ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 26 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Will you be provided evidence that the U.K are funding the current war ? I made a false claim, the UK is not funding the current war in Gaza. The UK is however continuing to supply the Israeli military with weapons. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-faces-pressure-stop-selling-weapons-israel-after-aid-workers-killed-2024-04-03/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Just joining in with the constant Nazis comparisons and taunts Probably not a good idea Nick given your expressed view that innocent civilians in Rafah have no reason to complain when the Israeli military visit ‘carnage’ upon them. There is no reverse gear on employing ‘Nazi ideology’ in discussions once the opportunity to accept and retract the grossly offensive nature of your post has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I made a false claim, the UK is not funding the current war in Gaza. The UK is however continuing to supply the Israeli military with weapons. https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-faces-pressure-stop-selling-weapons-israel-after-aid-workers-killed-2024-04-03/ Fair enough, but your link is behind a paywall . The U.K manufactures and sells weapons to other Countries . Weapons are used in wars and people die in wars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Probably not a good idea Nick given your expressed view that innocent civilians in Rafah have no reason to complain when the Israeli military visit ‘carnage’ upon them. Do stop twisting things around and its also against forum rules to misrepresent what other people say . What I did say was that numerous Western Governments issued a joint a statement telling Hamas to free the hostages now , a reason for Western Governments making that statement is that if and when the IDF invade Rafah , Western Governments will say to Hamas that its their own fault for not releasing the hostages . Now, stop falsely accusing me of saying things that I haven't said , you have done it numerous times now ands it has got to stop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 14 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Fair enough, but your link is behind a paywall . The U.K manufactures and sells weapons to other Countries . Weapons are used in wars and people die in wars But the killing of aid workers, including 3 British nationals, in this war has become a political issue in the UK with demands for PM Sunak to halt the sale or arms to Israel: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68721384 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: But the killing of aid workers, including 3 British nationals, in this war has become a political issue in the UK with demands for PM Sunak to halt the sale or arms to Israel: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68721384 Those groups making the calls traditionally oppose Israel and support the Palestinians , they are just using the deaths of the aid workers to further their cause 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Those groups making the calls traditionally oppose Israel and support the Palestinians , they are just using the deaths of the aid workers to further their cause Because of course killing aid workers and British nationals is not something anyone needs to be concerned about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Because of course killing aid workers and British nationals is not something anyone needs to be concerned about. Why are British people dying more of a concern that other nationalities dying ? Supply weapons to Israel only if they promise to only kill foreigners and non British people ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Why are British people dying more of a concern that other nationalities dying ? Supply weapons to Israel only if they promise to only kill foreigners and non British people ? In the context of UK domestic political response to the killing of those British national aid workers and the UK arms supplies to Israel. Why do you ask? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: In the context of UK domestic political response to the killing of those British national aid workers and the UK arms supplies to Israel. Why do you ask? So a British aid worker getting killed is more important than a French aid worker getting killed ? The UK should stop arms being sold to Israel because a British aid worker got killed , but can continue selling arms to Israel if a French aid worker gets killed ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Island Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: So a British aid worker getting killed is more important than a French aid worker getting killed ? The UK should stop arms being sold to Israel because a British aid worker got killed , but can continue selling arms to Israel if a French aid worker gets killed ? If you're British. Yes. Every major country in the world sells weapons. Absolutely terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 16 minutes ago, Roo Island said: If you're British. Yes. Every major country in the world sells weapons. Absolutely terrible. But it seems that only the weapons which Israel buys actually kill anyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: But it seems that only the weapons which Israel buys actually kill anyone No, but all the others deserve killing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) It not nice to fund terrorism! Its even worse to fund organizations that chant Death to America! soros & a few others must be held accountable! The left is a threat to the Republic! Pro-Palestinian protesters are backed by a surprising source: Biden’s biggest donors. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/05/pro-palestinian-protests-columbia-university-funding-donors-00156135 Edited May 6 by riclag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: Fair enough, but your link is behind a paywall . The U.K manufactures and sells weapons to other Countries . Weapons are used in wars and people die in wars Viva le/la profits ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, 0ffshore360 said: Viva le/la profits ? Pardon . What does that mean ? Long live the profits ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Pardon . What does that mean ? Long live the profits ? Exactly that ! The proponents of war have most interest in both providing the means to conquer and also participate in at least a share of the spoils of victory. In that respect given the history of US support in conflict in not only but certainly in the "middle East" the aspect of humanity has always been secondary to profitable advantage. Proper considerations of the many and complex issues that are currently very relevant to the Middle East by way of the "Gaza War" and the deliberate suppression of genuine political argument dismissed as religious extremism or fanatical delusion is buried by a bought and paid for media owned by corporate entities that are permitted to offer an alternative distraction from truth such as ? Facebook etc ! The old but accurate of the donkey and carrot is more than ever relevant ! The only question remaining is which is donkey and which is a vegetable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 20 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Pardon . What does that mean ? Long live the profits ? It means he's at least a leftist, probably a Marxist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: It means he's at least a leftist, probably a Marxist. I would claim humanist as a category that such as yourself need to identify. Difficult ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, 0ffshore360 said: I would claim humanist as a category that such as yourself need to identify. Difficult ? Is that not what I said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Just now, Yellowtail said: Is that not what I said? No. You mentioned Marxist. Typical incapacity to not conflate indoctrinated concepts with opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 5 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said: No. You mentioned Marxist. Typical incapacity to not conflate indoctrinated concepts with opinion. Classism in exploitation of people and nature wrapped in professional propaganda slathered with dog whistle labels to hoodwink “some” folks into believing “IT” the best think since sliced bread…… fascinating but freaky, imho ps - is it possible that being pro love pro peace pro life anti war anti colonialist anti imperialist er uh hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pps - anti ism schism systems seen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Classism in exploitation of people and nature wrapped in professional propaganda slathered with dog whistle labels to hoodwink “some” folks into believing “IT” the best think since sliced bread…… fascinating but freaky, imho ps - is it possible that being pro love pro peace pro life anti war anti colonialist anti imperialist er uh hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pps - anti ism schism systems seen Is that an AI response you have sourced? If so then the world need worry more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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