Florida's Abortion Ban Takes Effect Sends Ripples Across the South

[KhunLA]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Where did I mention morality? Morality is quite arbitrary. For a devout Catholic using birth control is immoral.

Reread mine, as I did edit while you were typing.

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Where did I mention morality? Morality is quite arbitrary. For a devout Catholic using birth control is immoral.

So is abortion, as is premarital sex ... and yet 

 

Join the real world, would you.  Responsible parenting, and good at home sex education would be a great start.  Having 2 parents in the house, and actually being a parent instead of trying to be your kid's friend, would go a long way to solve many issues of today's youth.

 

Teach you so how to be a responsible man, not an Ahole.   Oh yea, and never letting your daughter out of your damn sight 

[mogandave]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Where did I mention morality? Morality is quite arbitrary. For a devout Catholic using birth control is immoral.

Wait, what? Biden is against birth control? 

[mogandave]

The only thing not on the table is that individuals be held responsible for their actions.

 

Amd remember the left pushing sex ed as the be-all-end-all for out of wedlock pregnancy and STDs, yet both have skyrocketed. 

 

 

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

The only thing not on the table is that individuals be held responsible for their actions.

 

Amd remember the left pushing sex ed as the be-all-end-all for out of wedlock pregnancy and STDs, yet both have skyrocketed. 

They are pushing 'alternative' lifestyles, that should help with the pregnancy rate.  All those trans women getting boned solves it ...

 

... or are they trans women lesbians .... OH CRAP 

[placeholder]

45 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

 

Amd remember the left pushing sex ed as the be-all-end-all for out of wedlock pregnancy and STDs, yet both have skyrocketed. 

 

 

You sure about that?

Teen-age pregnancies have plummeted in the USA.

 

Teenage birth rates in the US reached historic lows in 2022, CDC report finds

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/teenage-birth-rates-us-reached-historic-lows-2022/story?id=99720479

 

 Solo mothers – those who are raising at least one child with no spouse or partner in the home – no longer dominate the ranks of unmarried parents as they once did. In 1968, 88% of unmarried parents fell into this category. By 1997 that share had dropped to 68%, and in 2017 the share of unmarried parents who were solo mothers declined to 53%. These declines in solo mothers have been entirely offset by increases in cohabitating parents: Now 35% of all unmarried parents are living with a partner.2 Meanwhile, the share of unmarried parents who are solo fathers has held steady at 12%.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/

 

And who is it who supports abstinence only education? It isn't progressives.

Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Programs Are Ineffective and Harmful to Young People, Expert Review Confirms

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abstinence-only-until-marriage-programs-are-ineffective-and-harmful-young-people

 

Abstinence-only sex education increases teen pregnancy in conservative US states, study finds

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/abstinence-sex-education-us-teen-pregnancy-rates-states-a8763051.html

[KhunLA]

58 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You sure about that?

Teen-age pregnancies have plummeted in the USA.

 

Teenage birth rates in the US reached historic lows in 2022, CDC report finds

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/teenage-birth-rates-us-reached-historic-lows-2022/story?id=99720479

 

 Solo mothers – those who are raising at least one child with no spouse or partner in the home – no longer dominate the ranks of unmarried parents as they once did. In 1968, 88% of unmarried parents fell into this category. By 1997 that share had dropped to 68%, and in 2017 the share of unmarried parents who were solo mothers declined to 53%. These declines in solo mothers have been entirely offset by increases in cohabitating parents: Now 35% of all unmarried parents are living with a partner.2 Meanwhile, the share of unmarried parents who are solo fathers has held steady at 12%.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/

 

And who is it who supports abstinence only education? It isn't progressives.

Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Programs Are Ineffective and Harmful to Young People, Expert Review Confirms

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abstinence-only-until-marriage-programs-are-ineffective-and-harmful-young-people

 

Abstinence-only sex education increases teen pregnancy in conservative US states, study finds

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/abstinence-sex-education-us-teen-pregnancy-rates-states-a8763051.html

COVID lock downs ?

 

Guessing 2023 will be lower than pre R vs W reversal, hopefully ?

 

2024 even lower.

 

As people realize the need to be responsible.  Though reported rapes will skyrocket 🤣

[placeholder]

56 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

COVID lock downs ?

 

Guessing 2023 will be lower than pre R vs W reversal, hopefully ?

 

2024 even lower.

 

As people realize the need to be responsible.  Though reported rapes will skyrocket 🤣

Wrong. 

Teen births in US fall to record low, as overall total drops by 2%: CDC

The number of births have been declining since the mid-2010s, the report found.

The overall number of births in the United States dropped in 2023 as teenage births reached a record low, according to new provisional federal data published early Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-births-us-fall-record-low-total-drops/story?id=109572998

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

You sure about that?

Teen-age pregnancies have plummeted in the USA.

 

Teenage birth rates in the US reached historic lows in 2022, CDC report finds

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/teenage-birth-rates-us-reached-historic-lows-2022/story?id=99720479

 

 Solo mothers – those who are raising at least one child with no spouse or partner in the home – no longer dominate the ranks of unmarried parents as they once did. In 1968, 88% of unmarried parents fell into this category. By 1997 that share had dropped to 68%, and in 2017 the share of unmarried parents who were solo mothers declined to 53%. These declines in solo mothers have been entirely offset by increases in cohabitating parents: Now 35% of all unmarried parents are living with a partner.2 Meanwhile, the share of unmarried parents who are solo fathers has held steady at 12%.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/04/25/the-changing-profile-of-unmarried-parents/

 

And who is it who supports abstinence only education? It isn't progressives.

Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Programs Are Ineffective and Harmful to Young People, Expert Review Confirms

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abstinence-only-until-marriage-programs-are-ineffective-and-harmful-young-people

 

Abstinence-only sex education increases teen pregnancy in conservative US states, study finds

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/abstinence-sex-education-us-teen-pregnancy-rates-states-a8763051.html

You are conflating birth rates with pregnancies. Nice try. 

 

Pre sex ed would be the ‘50s…. 

 

What percentage of children grew up in two parent homes in 1960 vs today? 

 

 

[mogandave]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Wrong. 

Teen births in US fall to record low, as overall total drops by 2%: CDC

The number of births have been declining since the mid-2010s, the report found.

The overall number of births in the United States dropped in 2023 as teenage births reached a record low, according to new provisional federal data published early Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-births-us-fall-record-low-total-drops/story?id=109572998

Kill a million babies a year, and then brag that births are down, typical leftist. 

[KhunLA]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Wrong. 

Teen births in US fall to record low, as overall total drops by 2%: CDC

The number of births have been declining since the mid-2010s, the report found.

The overall number of births in the United States dropped in 2023 as teenage births reached a record low, according to new provisional federal data published early Thursday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/teen-births-us-fall-record-low-total-drops/story?id=109572998

Not wrong, as didn't provide an answer, since no question.

 

Just speculating, and coviid did restrict a lot ... social distancing...

... ring a bell.

 

And if trend continues, lower in 2023 & 2024, as people are obviously being more responsible.  Though you'll have to ask them why.  Lack of 'on demand' abortions ... who knows ?

 

Take a poll ...

[placeholder]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

You are conflating birth rates with pregnancies. Nice try. 

 

Pre sex ed would be the ‘50s…. 

 

What percentage of children grew up in two parent homes in 1960 vs today? 

 

 

Even before Dobbs, states run by right wingers had managed to make it harder to get abortions. Despite which, teenage birth rates declined. 

[stoner]

7 hours ago, pomchop said:

.but if the gal gets pregnant it's not my problem and the gal should be forced to have a baby that neither the guy or gal ever wanted?

 

if she had consensual sex the gal was never forced to open her legs in the first place. women have all the power when it comes to us having or not having sex.

 

 

[Cory1848]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

Yes, among extreme right wingers there is this Pavlovian reflexive use of "Marxist" to mean anyone they disagree with. Above all else, Marxists believe that the state should own all means of production for the benefit of workers. Obviously nothing to do with abortion.

Exactly. I had in mind some form of social democracy, with a mixed economy; it’s not Marxism, but it’s not unfettered capitalism either. I expect that a social democracy would include abortion rights as part of a program of social equality and universal access to health and other services. Scandinavian countries generally follow such a system, and they always rank at the top in “happiness” indexes. But for a lot of people, it’s easier to simply throw around words that sound scary.

[placeholder]

11 minutes ago, Cory1848 said:

Exactly. I had in mind some form of social democracy, with a mixed economy; it’s not Marxism, but it’s not unfettered capitalism either. I expect that a social democracy would include abortion rights as part of a program of social equality and universal access to health and other services. Scandinavian countries generally follow such a system, and they always rank at the top in “happiness” indexes. But for a lot of people, it’s easier to simply throw around words that sound scary.

Exactly.

[pomchop]

15 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I never needed to stoop to those low tactics, and honesty with like mined horny people always worked for me.  No need for all that silliness, as there's always some wanting to share smiles with me.

that is why i said most guys as yes there are some guys who never tried to take advantage of  a gal to get laid....BUT my experince is that for evey guy like that there are 99 guys who would and did think of nothing but how can i get laid from about 15 y,o well into their 60's and beyond....take a look and a listen to guys in bars and online constantly talking about gals and how to get into their pants as well as bragging about no condoms etc etc...as for me there were decades when my almost  every waking minute was filled with looking at girls, thinking about them, trying to pick them  up, and yes trying to get laid...the old 3 F rule of find em fxxk em and forget em  is still very much in play but fortunately i am now too old to do much but i do still enjoy the looking part...

[mogandave]

3 hours ago, pomchop said:

that is why i said most guys as yes there are some guys who never tried to take advantage of  a gal to get laid....BUT my experince is that for evey guy like that there are 99 guys who would and did think of nothing but how can i get laid from about 15 y,o well into their 60's and beyond....take a look and a listen to guys in bars and online constantly talking about gals and how to get into their pants as well as bragging about no condoms etc etc...as for me there were decades when my almost  every waking minute was filled with looking at girls, thinking about them, trying to pick them  up, and yes trying to get laid...the old 3 F rule of find em fxxk em and forget em  is still very much in play but fortunately i am now too old to do much but i do still enjoy the looking part...

And your point is that  women are too stupid to be responsible for themselves, correct? 

 

To clear, I’m all for holding men  responsible for their children.

[pomchop]

11 minutes ago, mogandave said:

And your point is that  women are too stupid to be responsible for themselves, correct? 

 

To clear, I’m all for holding men  responsible for their children.

no the point is it takes two to tango so maybe old men should not pass laws that have an impact only on the woman

[mogandave]

4 minutes ago, pomchop said:

no the point is it takes two to tango so maybe old men should not pass laws that have an impact only on the woman

What laws only impact women? 

 

 

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

no the point is it takes two to tango so maybe old men should not pass laws that have an impact only on the woman

Trans women will no longer be able to get abortions either ... 

 

It will greatly affect all the men in the abortion industry  

[Wrwest]

On 5/2/2024 at 4:33 PM, Hanaguma said:

As usual, the people using the euphemisms are the ones who are in the wrong. Abortion is not "health care". It is killing a baby before it is born. At least have the stones to use clear language to describe what you advocate.  

Then I will be clear ... a woman's healthcare, including complications in pregnancy, are not my decisions nor anyone else aside from medical advice. And so I will join the majority on this issue opposing anyone wishing to impose their views on others.

[KhunLA]

12 minutes ago, Wrwest said:

Then I will be clear ... a woman's healthcare, including complications in pregnancy, are not my decisions nor anyone else aside from medical advice. And so I will join the majority on this issue opposing anyone wishing to impose their views on others.

Is that a new way of saying abortion, it's a complication ... 

 

In less than 6 weeks (5 week, 1 day ?), after conception, the lifeform, fetus, baby has a heartbeat.  It will only not be birthed to a human being, if you kill and stop that heart from beating.  Let that sink in, it's no complicated to understand ...

 

... or a complication ... 

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Is that a new way of saying abortion, it's a complication ... 

 

In less than 6 weeks (5 week, 1 day ?), after conception, the lifeform, fetus, baby has a heartbeat.  It will only not be birthed to a human being, if you kill and stop that heart from beating.  Let that sink in, it's no complicated to understand ...

 

... or a complication ... 

Like all leftists, when it comes to the unborn, it's "kill 'em all, big or small". 

 

 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

Like all leftists, when it comes to the unborn, it's "kill 'em all, big or small". 

 

 

LIES. 

[Yellowtail]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

LIES. 

To be clear, I said leftists, not liberals. 

 

So, what is your position on abortion? Is it not publicly funded, up until shortly after contractions start, for any reason? If not, what is it? 

 

I say 12 weeks any reason, any point in the term is the mother's physical life is at significant risk 

 

[Sheryl]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

To be clear, I said leftists, not liberals. 

 

So, what is your position on abortion? Is it not publicly funded, up until the moment of birth for any reason? If not, what is it? 

There is no such thing as abortion ",up until the moment of birth".

 

By defintion abortion (whether spontaneous or induced) is the expulsion of an embryo or fetus prior to viability.

 

 

[Yellowtail]

5 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

There is no such thing as abortion ",up until the moment of birth".

 

By defintion abortion (whether spontaneous or induced) is the expulsion of an embryo or fetus prior to viability.

 

 

Thanks, I tried to fix it. 

[Walker88]

trumpers might not have gotten all of their talking points, so in order to get them all up to date, here's what your messiah says:

 

Also, the clown who embarrassed herself giving the response to President Biden's SotU message---Senator Britt---has introduced a Bill that would create a National Registry of pregnant women. Thus, the government would be able to monitor women to make sure they don't do anything against the FreeDumb Party's Handmaid's Tale philosophy.

[Wrwest]

On 5/9/2024 at 2:18 PM, KhunLA said:

Is that a new way of saying abortion, it's a complication ... 

 

In less than 6 weeks (5 week, 1 day ?), after conception, the lifeform, fetus, baby has a heartbeat.  It will only not be birthed to a human being, if you kill and stop that heart from beating.  Let that sink in, it's no complicated to understand ...

 

... or a complication ... 

If the medically educated, consults a pregnant woman that the fetus is dead within her? If the medically educated informs the pregnant woman that the fetus is not viable, will be stillborn or having developed serious medical complications? Absolutiss demand the pregnancy be carried on ... without regard to the woman's health ... my vote come November will be to return Roe to the status of a Right to medical care as it had been since the 1970s, before the Trump/McConnell SCOTUS.

[Yellowtail]

4 hours ago, Wrwest said:

If the medically educated, consults a pregnant woman that the fetus is dead within her? If the medically educated informs the pregnant woman that the fetus is not viable, will be stillborn or having developed serious medical complications? Absolutiss demand the pregnancy be carried on ... without regard to the woman's health ... my vote come November will be to return Roe to the status of a Right to medical care as it had been since the 1970s, before the Trump/McConnell SCOTUS.

Kill 'em all, big or small"