TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 2 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Trump is claiming that his team is winning the case, as is FOX. https://www.foxnews.com/video/6352487454112 Of course, they both also claimed he won the last presidential election. So that pretty much tells everyone what they need to know about the total lack of credibility of both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 12 Popular Post Share Posted May 12 3 hours ago, Yellowtail said: I think he's winning the case as well, but I did not say that, what I said was: "I think most people expect he will be convicted." Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract, which is not legal. Trump is indicted, which is legal. I think he will be convicted as well. (which I think is not legal) This is your classic technique of breaking a crime into discrete parts, and then claiming that the individual parts themselves aren't crimes, so the entire act cannot be a crime. I can play, too: A politician is charged with a play for pay corruption scheme, where he is paid for voting on a bill. Yellowtail: The politician got a check. Since when is receiving a check illegal? The politician voted on a bill. Since when is voting on a bill illegal? This indictment is a sham! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendejo Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The moment the conversation turns to DT his supporters start talking about Biden. It's a tacit admission that they have nothing supportive to offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hawaiian Posted May 12 Popular Post Share Posted May 12 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bendejo said: The moment the conversation turns to DT his supporters start talking about Biden. It's a tacit admission that they have nothing supportive to offer. IMHO, it it's saying that their man is the solution to Biden's economic, immigration, energy and foreign policies. Difficult to push Trump's agenda without mentioning what Biden has been doing. And no, I am not choosing sides. Edited May 12 by Hawaiian Correction 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 The moment the conversation turns to Biden his supporters start talking about Trump. It's a tacit admission that they have nothing supportive to offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted May 13 Popular Post Share Posted May 13 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: The moment the conversation turns to Biden his supporters start talking about Trump. It's a tacit admission that they have nothing supportive to offer. So in a Trump topic you're complaining about people talking about Trump. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 29 minutes ago, stevenl said: So in a Trump topic you're complaining about people talking about Trump. No, not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Supposedly, the prosecution will call Michael Cohen tomorrow. Unlike many, I don't think he will be a good witness, because he will tell the truth. Unfortunately, he will have to admit that Trump's orders to him were not explicit, they were in code. So rather than Trump telling Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, Cohen will testify that Trump told him to "take care of it". A normal person will listen to Cohen's testimony and understand the criminal nature of Trump's orders, but some people will claim that Cohen's testimony exonerates Trump. And maybe one juror won't have the mental capacity to connect the dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 21 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Trump is clearly prepping his fanbase by telling him that his team is winning the case. If he is convicted, his fans may revolt. Or not, it depends how crazy they are. One idiot has come out from under the ether... many to join him soon... Fareed Zakaria admitted on his show Sunday that the felony charges brought against former President Trump in New York over falsifying business records appear politically motivated. "I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump," Zakaria said. The CNN host argued that the trial against Trump guarantees to "keep him in the spotlight" and "infuriate his base." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, Skipalongcassidy said: One idiot has come out from under the ether... many to join him soon... Fareed Zakaria admitted on his show Sunday that the felony charges brought against former President Trump in New York over falsifying business records appear politically motivated. "I doubt the New York indictment would have been brought against a defendant whose name was not Donald Trump," Zakaria said. The CNN host argued that the trial against Trump guarantees to "keep him in the spotlight" and "infuriate his base." Is Zakaria someone whose opinion you trust? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Is Zakaria someone whose opinion you trust? I didn't think that you would know who he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Supposedly, the prosecution will call Michael Cohen tomorrow. Unlike many, I don't think he will be a good witness, because he will tell the truth. Unfortunately, he will have to admit that Trump's orders to him were not explicit, they were in code. So rather than Trump telling Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, Cohen will testify that Trump told him to "take care of it". A normal person will listen to Cohen's testimony and understand the criminal nature of Trump's orders, but some people will claim that Cohen's testimony exonerates Trump. And maybe one juror won't have the mental capacity to connect the dots. And what is the "criminal nature" of Trump's orders? How is paying someone to keep quiet illegal? Yeah, I agree, the jurors really need to "connect the dots" to GET Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 13 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Is Zakaria someone whose opinion you trust? Do you trust his opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: I didn't think that you would know who he is... If you say, he'll pull up a hundred examples of how he has attacked Trump. "Even a blind hog gets an acorn every now and then." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: And what is the "criminal nature" of Trump's orders? How is paying someone to keep quiet illegal? Yeah, I agree, the jurors really need to "connect the dots" to GET Trump. Your memory is getting worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 28 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Do you trust his opinion? There's two ways of looking at his comments: 1) The prosecutors are simply out to get Trump for political reasons, or 2) If Trump had not been elected in 2016, none of these facts would have been publicly known, and Trump would not have been indicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 To recap the bidding: Michael Cohen pled guilty to a campaign finance violation for paying Stormy Daniels just before the 2016 election. Donald Trump reimbursed Cohen, but tried to cover up the campaign finance violation by claiming the payments to Cohen were a business expense (attorney services). Under NY State law, the business fraud is elevated from a misdemeanor to a felony if it is intended to cover up a crime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 11 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: There's two ways of looking at his comments: 1) The prosecutors are simply out to get Trump for political reasons, or 2) If Trump had not been elected in 2016, none of these facts would have been publicly known, and Trump would not have been indicted. I meant do you trust his opinion, generally? I think the prosecutors are simply out to get Trump for political reasons. All the "facts" would have been known whether Trump had been reelected or not, and Biden would still have all his classifies documents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: I meant do you trust his opinion, generally? I live in Thailand and so don't watch CNN enough to form an opinion of Fareed Zakaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 12 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: I live in Thailand and so don't watch CNN enough to form an opinion of Fareed Zakaria. Who do you watch such that you have been able to form an opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 15 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Who do you watch such that you have been able to form an opinion? I don't really watch TV, sorry. Maybe Rachel Maddow once every couple of months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Many people are saying that Trump's drag name is ... Miss Trial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 5 hours ago, Danderman123 said: I don't really watch TV, sorry. Maybe Rachel Maddow once every couple of months. Explains everything! Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Is Zakaria someone whose opinion you trust? I would think most of the leftist here would. After all it’s CNN not Fox. https://www.foxnews.com/media/fareed-zakaria-admits-doubt-new-york-charges-brought-against-anyone-donald-trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 11 minutes ago, G_Money said: I would think most of the leftist here would. After all it’s CNN not Fox. https://www.foxnews.com/media/fareed-zakaria-admits-doubt-new-york-charges-brought-against-anyone-donald-trump Fareed opined that Trump will lose in 2016. Why the sudden change of heart to submit to CNN. Whatever floats your boat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Fareed opined that Trump will lose in 2016. Why the sudden change of heart to submit to CNN. Whatever floats your boat. I haven’t submitted to CNN. Reported by FOX. Currently the most watched and respected network. Point I was making is even liberals are seeing for what the Kangaroo Court really is, a KANGAROO COURT. Edited May 13 by G_Money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: Currently the most watched and respected network. Which one? And where are the links to those two statements! Edited May 13 by scottiejohn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 1 minute ago, G_Money said: I haven’t submitted to CNN. Reported by FOX. Currently the most watched and respected network. Sorry I don;t watched cable television channels that being exposed for lying. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 7 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Fareed opined that Trump will lose in 2016. Why the sudden change of heart to submit to CNN. Whatever floats your boat. Is this not 2024 and not 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Sorry I don;t watched cable television channels that being exposed for lying. Is there a news outlet of any kind that has not been exposed for lying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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