Trump Criticizes Biden's Stance on Israeli Weapons

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Former President Donald Trump launched a scathing attack on President Joe Biden's handling of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, particularly regarding the supply of weapons to Israel. Trump accused Biden of siding with Hamas and criticized his administration's stance on the matter. The exchange underscores the ongoing tensions surrounding U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East and the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

 

Trump's criticism stemmed from Biden's statement suggesting a possible withholding of weapons from Israel if it proceeded with its plan to invade the city of Rafah. In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump condemned Biden's stance, alleging that it effectively amounted to supporting Hamas terrorists. The former president lambasted Biden for what he perceives as weakness in dealing with the conflict, asserting that such actions would not have occurred if he were still in office.

 

 

Moreover, Trump drew parallels between Biden's approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and his handling of domestic issues, such as campus protests. He accused Biden of capitulating to "Pro-Terrorist Mobs" and implied that his donors were influencing his decision-making. This critique not only highlights Trump's ongoing involvement in political discourse but also underscores the broader divisions within U.S. politics regarding foreign policy and national security.

 

Trump's remarks were echoed by Senator Mitt Romney, a prominent figure within the Republican Party, who criticized Biden's hesitation to supply weapons to Israel. Romney emphasized the importance of standing by allies and questioned Biden's approach, labeling it as "bad policy" and a "terrible message" to Israel and other allies. The convergence of viewpoints between Trump and Romney underscores the bipartisan nature of support for Israel within the U.S. political landscape.

 

Biden's administration has faced mounting pressure to address the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, particularly in light of recent escalations in violence. The delicate balance between supporting Israel's right to defend itself and advocating for Palestinian rights has been a longstanding challenge for U.S. policymakers. Biden's cautious approach reflects the complexity of the situation and the need to balance competing interests, both domestically and internationally.

 

In response to Trump's criticism, the Biden administration reiterated its commitment to Israel's security while also emphasizing the importance of promoting peace and stability in the region. The administration has sought to de-escalate tensions and facilitate dialogue between Israeli and Palestinian leaders, although progress has been slow and incremental. The issue of weapon supply to Israel remains a sensitive and contentious topic, with implications for broader geopolitical dynamics in the Middle East.

 

As the Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues to evolve, the role of the United States in mediating and facilitating negotiations remains crucial. Biden's administration faces ongoing challenges in navigating the complexities of the region, balancing strategic interests with humanitarian concerns. The exchange between Trump and Biden underscores the enduring significance of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in shaping U.S. foreign policy and international relations.

 

2024-05-10

 

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[Brian Hull]

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

[Hanaguma]

23 minutes ago, Brian Hull said:

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

Hamas raped, murdered, and kidnapped more than a thousand completely innocent people. And started a war.

During the war that Hamas started, sadly many thousands of Palestinians have been killed.  How many is not known, since Hamas a/ refuses to say how many were combatants and b/ does not have accurate information on thousands of the supposed victims.

 

In any case, all the casualties are 100% the fault of Hamas, who started the war.

[2baht]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

In any case, all the casualties are 100% the fault of Hamas, who started the war.

This war did'nt start on & Oct 2023, it started in 1948!

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5 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Hamas raped, murdered, and kidnapped more than a thousand completely innocent people. And started a war.

During the war that Hamas started, sadly many thousands of Palestinians have been killed.  How many is not known, since Hamas a/ refuses to say how many were combatants and b/ does not have accurate information on thousands of the supposed victims.

 

In any case, all the casualties are 100% the fault of Hamas, who started the war.

First off, Israel helped to keep Hamas in power. Second, by your abysmal standards, any tactic that Israel adopts, no matter how brutal, is justified. To your way of thinking, the Hamas attack gives Israel carte blanche.

[herfiehandbag]

Trump is making political capital out of Biden stumbling in.

 

Many in "the West" have long been suspect of Americas tendency to abandon it's allies if politically expedient. There is no shortage of precedents. Biden's fumbling incoherent moves to limit weapons supplied to Israel are not entirely unexpected.

 

Biden is a fool. Trump is climbing on a bandwagon.

Edited May 10 by herfiehandbag

[Hanaguma]

Just now, 2baht said:

This war did'nt start on & Oct 2023, it started in 1948!

No, it started in BC63, when the Romans invaded Judea.

 

Come on, we can play history tag all day long and never come up with an answer. But tell me, would the IDF be in Gaza now if the October 7 attack had not happened? Would all those Palestinians be dead or alive? That tells you the story of the current situation.

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

First off, Israel helped to keep Hamas in power. Second, by your abysmal standards, any tactic that Israel adopts, no matter how brutal, is justified. To your way of thinking, the Hamas attack gives Israel carte blanche.

Place, you don't know my standards, stop trying to put words in my mouth. the IDF has an obligation to prosecute the war in a way to try and minimize civilian casualties while still achieving the final goal of eliminating Hamas. They are doing that largely. Not perfectly but doing their best.

 

Now, their opponent...what standards do you have for Hamas and how they conduct themselves? Or do they get carte blanche. Because I never hear anyone talk about how HAMAS conducts themselves. How they hide in hospitals and UN schools. How they deliberately TRY to murder civilians as often and as brutally as possible. 

 

Why the double standard? 

[2baht]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

No, it started in BC63, when the Romans invaded Judea.

 

Come on, we can play history tag all day long and never come up with an answer. But tell me, would the IDF be in Gaza now if the October 7 attack had not happened? Would all those Palestinians be dead or alive? That tells you the story of the current situation.

Netanyahoo is not after Hamas, he wants Palestine totally wiped out, every man, woman and child!, I think it's called genocide! He says he will stand alone even without American aid( war weapons!          

[animalmagic]

16 minutes ago, 2baht said:

This war did'nt start on & Oct 2023, it started in 1948!

 

Palestine is Judea, the Roman name for ‘Land of the Jews’,  The Roman Emperor Hadrian re-named Judea as Palestina in 135 CE.  Since then, it was never an Islamic State.  In the 2nd century CE, the Romans crushed the Jewish revolt and Judea was renamed Syria Palestina.

The Quran mentions Israel as the land of the Jews.  The Muslim people should be fully aware that Palestine referred to the Jews for 2,000 years.  Islam was founded in the 7th century, almost 700 years later. 

There are no Arab Muslim Palestinians on record prior to the 20th century; the land was referred only as the homeland of the Jews.  It is validated by a host of archives by many nations, and some one million Archaeological relics.  There was never a time of no Jews in Palestine the past 2,000 years, as evidenced by the Crusaders, Islamic invasions and the previous Ottomans.

Edited May 10 by animalmagic
typo

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Just now, Hanaguma said:

Place, you don't know my standards, stop trying to put words in my mouth. the IDF has an obligation to prosecute the war in a way to try and minimize civilian casualties while still achieving the final goal of eliminating Hamas. They are doing that largely. Not perfectly but doing their best.

 

Now, their opponent...what standards do you have for Hamas and how they conduct themselves? Or do they get carte blanche. Because I never hear anyone talk about how HAMAS conducts themselves. How they hide in hospitals and UN schools. How they deliberately TRY to murder civilians as often and as brutally as possible. 

 

Why the double standard? 

Clearly even the US government has now determined that this is not the case. Israel's use of massive bombs in areas filled with civilians is proof enough of that.

 

 During the first six weeks of the war in Gaza, Israel routinely used one of its biggest and most destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to an analysis of visual evidence by The New York Times.

https://archive.ph/Am6er

 

Another proof of Israell's disgraceful conduct is its hindering the transport of food and other necessities to civilians. 

One particularly grimly nasty instance of that recenly occurred when Israel claimed that police escorts for supply trucks weren't showing up. It turned out they weren't showing up is because Israel was killing them when they did.

Here's another instance:

Dying for a bag of flour: Videos and eyewitness accounts cast doubt on Israel’s timeline of deadly Gaza aid delivery

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/09/middleeast/gaza-food-aid-convoy-deaths-eyewitness-intl-investigation-cmd/index.html

 

 

[pomchop]

i thought jared had all the middle east problems fixed?

 

  Or was he just over there trying to suck up a couple billion bucks by playing off daddy in law name...u know sorta like the maga bunch has been melting down over hunter biden trying to suck a few million off of his daddys name.  But never a word about two billion for jared and lots of chinese patents for Ivanka.

[Hanaguma]

10 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Netanyahoo is not after Hamas, he wants Palestine totally wiped out, every man, woman and child!, I think it's called genocide! He says he will stand alone even without American aid( war weapons!          

And of course, your hysteria is incorrect. Genocide doesn't mean killing only 150 people a day, when your military is capable of doing 100 times that much damage.  

 

Back to the topic, Biden is just catering to his party base during an election cycle. There is no other reason to stop helping America's only ally in the area. The only democratic and free country. The only country with rights for women and minorities and LGBT people.  Obviously a craven political move.

[Hanaguma]

Just now, pomchop said:

i thought jared had all the middle east problems fixed?

 

  Or was he just over there trying to suck up a couple billion bucks by playing off daddy in law name...u know sorta like the maga bunch has been melting down over hunter biden trying to suck a few million off of his daddys name.  But never a word about two billion for jared and lots of chinese patents for Ivanka.

Yeah those stupid Abraham Accords.  Caused nothing but war and strife during the Trump presidency....

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3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

 

 

Back to the topic, Biden is just catering to his party base during an election cycle. There is no other reason to stop helping America's only ally in the area. The only democratic and free country. The only country with rights for women and minorities and LGBT people.  Obviously a craven political move.

More nonsense from you. Biden has not stopped helping Israel militarily. He's just not giving them everything they want.

[Bkk Brian]

59 minutes ago, Brian Hull said:

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

Except that's a lie. 

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, placeholder said:

More nonsense from you. Biden has not stopped helping Israel militarily. He's just not giving them everything they want.

You know, perhaps the ISRAELIS know better what they need to successfully defeat Hamas than Biden. The sum total of his military experience consists of avoiding service in Vietnam.

[Bkk Brian]

22 minutes ago, 2baht said:

Netanyahoo is not after Hamas, he wants Palestine totally wiped out, every man, woman and child!, I think it's called genocide! He says he will stand alone even without American aid( war weapons!          

B.S. Mad ramblings. This war started Oct 7th no matter how much you want to change history.

[placeholder]

17 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

There are no Arab Muslim Palestinians on record prior to the 20th century; the land was referred only as the homeland of the Jews.  It is validated by a host of archives by many nations, and some one million Archaeological relics.  There was never a time of no Jews in Palestine the past 2,000 years, as evidenced by the Crusaders, Islamic invasions and the previous Ottomans.

False. Just another echo of that old Zionist dishonest slogan: "A land without people for a people without land."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)#CITEREFMcCarthy1990

[placeholder]

4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You know, perhaps the ISRAELIS know better what they need to successfully defeat Hamas than Biden. The sum total of his military experience consists of avoiding service in Vietnam.

This is a valid defense of your claim that Biden has stopped helping Israel. He's just not giving them everything they want. And you pile on the nonsense by citing his lack of military experience. I guess you believe that the Pentagon has no role to play in advising the President.

[Bkk Brian]

Its not just Trump and republicans fuming at this:

 

Republicans -- and even some Democrats -- are now pouncing on Biden's new warning to Israel that the U.S. will withhold weapons 

House Speaker Mike Johnson, angry that top Republicans weren't informed beforehand, slammed Biden's decision as a "senior moment." 

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

This is a valid defense of your claim that Biden has stopped helping Israel. He's just not giving them everything they want. And you pile on the nonsense by citing his lack of military experience. I guess you believe that the Pentagon has no role to play in advising the President.

The current 'leadership' in the Pentagon is more concerned about meeting DEI targets than in war fighting. They have huge recruitment and morale issues because they simply aren't behaving like soldiers anymore. 

 

And there better be a damn good reason for not giving them everything they want, other than "hmmmm election year..." If there is one, I haven't heard it yet.

[Srikcir]

23 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The only country with rights for women and minorities and LGBT people. 

Add: Israel passed a law to revoke the citizenship of Israeli Arabs and their residency rights. Only pureblood Jews have citizenship rights. Israel denies Arabs of both one state and two state solutions. 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Brian Hull said:

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

Perhaps a little more than murder hundreds, appalling as that may be.

They made a long planned well prepared attack on the civilian population, raped, slaughtered and killed without mercy, brought gangs of civilians with them to join in, dragged away hostages including the elderly, women, children and infants. The dead and injured ran to well over a thousand. The hostages to well over a hundred.

 

They then withdrew to prepared bunkers, many in and under hospitals, schools, mosques and civilian housing, to hide out the Israeli response, deliberately leaving the civilian population unprotected to cause the maximum casualties.

 

But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of A bit of Jew baiting!, it rather seems that you have been taking lessons from the NAZIs, or rather their apologists!

Edited May 10 by herfiehandbag

[placeholder]

50 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

The current 'leadership' in the Pentagon is more concerned about meeting DEI targets than in war fighting. They have huge recruitment and morale issues because they simply aren't behaving like soldiers anymore. 

 

And there better be a damn good reason for not giving them everything they want, other than "hmmmm election year..." If there is one, I haven't heard it yet.

I see you still have no defense for your ridiculous claim that the US is not helping Israel. The Pentagon is a huge organization. What do recruitment and morale issues have to do with analyses of the situation in Gaza. You're just desperately throwing stuff at the wall and hoping something sticks.

 

 

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I see you still have no defense for your ridiculous claim that the US is not helping Israel. The Pentagon is a huge organization. What do recruitment and morale issues have to do with analyses of the situation in Gaza. You're just desperately throwing stuff at the wall and hoping something sticks.

 

 

No, I am speculating why the President might be getting less than stellar advice from those around him.  And of course the US is not cutting off Israel completely, that would be madness. But it is also arrogant and belittling for the US to presume to tell Israel what weapons it does or doesn't need.  The IDF know what they are doing, they have been in the business of killing terrorists for a while now. If they say they need something, I tend to believe them. 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, animalmagic said:

 

Palestine is Judea, the Roman name for ‘Land of the Jews’,  The Roman Emperor Hadrian re-named Judea as Palestina in 135 CE.  Since then, it was never an Islamic State.  In the 2nd century CE, the Romans crushed the Jewish revolt and Judea was renamed Syria Palestina.

The Quran mentions Israel as the land of the Jews.  The Muslim people should be fully aware that Palestine referred to the Jews for 2,000 years.  Islam was founded in the 7th century, almost 700 years later. 

There are no Arab Muslim Palestinians on record prior to the 20th century; the land was referred only as the homeland of the Jews.  It is validated by a host of archives by many nations, and some one million Archaeological relics.  There was never a time of no Jews in Palestine the past 2,000 years, as evidenced by the Crusaders, Islamic invasions and the previous Ottomans.

At the time of the writing of the Quran, there were no Muslims in Israel.

 

For obvious reasons.

[riclag]

2 hours ago, Brian Hull said:

Hamas murdered hundreds of Israelis and in response Israel has murdered more than 30,000 Palestinians. What they are doing is not "the right to defend itself". It is wanton slaughter and genocide. Israel learned a lot from the Nazis.

You got your narrative  twisted!

Hamas is a Terrorist Organization!

Who by the looks of things ( building tunnels for years) has been hell bent on the destruction of Israel!

Its the Never forget tribe vs the death to Israel tribe. Hamas aint gonna stop !

Israel needs to finish the job,it set out to do by any means necessary.

Abstract: When Hamas took over the Gaza Strip by force of arms in 2007, it faced an ideological crisis. It could focus on governing Gaza and addressing the needs of the Palestinian people, or it could use the Gaza Strip as a springboard from which to attack Israel. 
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-road-to-october-7-hamas-long-game-clarified/

[placeholder]

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

No, I am speculating why the President might be getting less than stellar advice from those around him.  And of course the US is not cutting off Israel completely, that would be madness. But it is also arrogant and belittling for the US to presume to tell Israel what weapons it does or doesn't need.  The IDF know what they are doing, they have been in the business of killing terrorists for a while now. If they say they need something, I tend to believe them. 

I guess you believe that it's arrogant and belittling for the US to tell Ukraine what it needs, too? Maybe American should just offer its allies a budget number and let them go shopping in its arsenal?

As for the IDF knows what it's doing. Really?

 

Hamas is returning to power in northern Gaza, IDF colonel says
IDF Col. Hezi Nachman said that there are hundreds of thousands of people in northern Gaza and Hamas rule of the area is returning.

Hamas is returning to power in northern Gaza, IDF Col. (res.) Hezi Nachman said in an interview with 103FM Tuesday morning, adding that the Israeli military isn't doing enough to stop it.

Speaking to Ben Caspit and Yinon Magal, Nachman, the former head of the Menashe Brigade, was discussing a letter to the war cabinet he and several other IDF commanders signed calling on Gazans not to be allowed to return home in the North until the hostages come home.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-786771

 

Wasting troops’ hard-fought gains, Israel is taking time it doesn’t have in Gaza

Seven months after it carried out the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust, Hamas is still very much alive and kicking.

It has reportedly reasserted significant civil control in Gaza cities troops swept through and then left. In some areas, Hamas fighters have resumed their rocket fire, including a recent attack on Sderot and the deadly strike on Israel Defense Forces infantrymen near Kerem Shalom on Sunday.

Not only is Hamas surviving, it looks increasingly plucky about its chances to guarantee its return to power

.https://www.timesofisrael.com/wasting-troops-hard-fought-gains-israel-is-taking-time-it-doesnt-have-in-gaza/

 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

You got your narrative  twisted!

Hamas is a Terrorist Organization!

Who by the looks of things ( building tunnels for years) has been hell bent on the destruction of Israel!

Its the Never forget tribe vs the death to Israel tribe. Hamas aint gonna stop !

Israel needs to finish the job,it set out to do by any means necessary.

Abstract: When Hamas took over the Gaza Strip by force of arms in 2007, it faced an ideological crisis. It could focus on governing Gaza and addressing the needs of the Palestinian people, or it could use the Gaza Strip as a springboard from which to attack Israel. 
https://ctc.westpoint.edu/the-road-to-october-7-hamas-long-game-clarified/

A terrorist organization that was supported by Israel.