Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Mavideol]

Zelensky is rolling the dice on the battlefield with one eye on the US election

https://au.yahoo.com/news/zelensky-rolling-dice-battlefield-one-152354624.html

 

[beautifulthailand99]

Looking like commanders are retreating in Donetsk - makes a lot of sense why die needlessly if you are overwhelmed and have lost you best units to Kursk, and the war may finally be coming to some sort of conclusion. The land is broken, the remaining inhabitants are likely pro-Russian , have an armistice - allow both sides to beleive they have won, then build massiven defeces and re-arm. It works both ways. But to the last Ukrainian isn't a policy. Ukaraine can hold it's head up high they haven't lost morally and they have forged a new albeit smaller nation state and the world can move on and best of all the killing stops and we can go back to discussing the cheapest beer and breakfasts in Pattaya.I'm afraid this isn't  the Lord of the Rings and Sauron doen't die or at least not yet.

 

 

Edited August 29 by beautifulthailand99

[Bkk Brian]

Russia has weak borders, take advantage!

 

Belgorod update: "The mini-invasion into Kursk was probably phase one of a number of other operations that they'll do... This Belgorod incursion could well be the next phase." - 
@PhilipIngMBE, former UK military intelligence officer. Full analysis on @TimesRadio

 

 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

One source of information I follow on Ukraine is Willy OAM, an aussie soldier with an inoperable brain tumour who served in Afghanistan and volunteered in Ukraine. Now back home he reports on the war through his Telegram and YT channels. Though he’s in principle pro Ukraine given that he fought on their side, his reporting is most definitely neutral, showing successes and failures of both sides as they happen. In addition, he’s got a wealth of contacts in other foreign volunteer fighters there on the ground. He sifts through all Telegram channels, war mappers,… and does an excellent job distinguishing fact from fiction. All the other channels on Telegram and YT are biased and in effect propaganda. The pro Russian channels only report Russian successes and Ukrainians striking civilian targets and vice versa for the pro Ukrainian channels. Willy OAM is the place to be if you want to have a rough idea of what’s really happening in this war. That and Redditt.

 

[Bkk Brian]

Belgorod 

 

Belgorod governor reports casualties, orders relocation of civilians near Ukrainian border

Authorities in Russia’s Belgorod region closed entry to 35 settlements and implemented remote schooling in response to what they describe as a tense border situation with Ukraine.

He added that entry to the village of Vyazovoye in Krasnoyaruzhsky district has been closed, with checkpoints established to control access.

Gladkov also said that schools within a 20-kilometer zone in the oblast’s border municipalities will operate remotely. About 35 settlements in the oblast have been closed to entry due to the “operational situation.”

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/08/29/belgorod-governor-reports-casualties-orders-relocation-of-civilians-near-ukrainian-border/

[kwonitoy]

Running out of fire retardant foam, in the strongest economy on earth?

[balo]

Norwegian and Danish F-16's are now performing active missions and have been used successfully, also inside Russian territory. Reports of the missions have been classified ,  few details are coming out. 

Unfortunately we had one loss of life , after the pilot Oleksii Mes successfully destroyed three cruise missiles and one UAV during his final mission on F-16.  Rest in Peace Hero. 

 

Slava Ukraine! 

 

 

 

Edited August 29 by balo

[thaibeachlovers]

57 minutes ago, balo said:

Norwegian and Danish F-16's are now performing active missions and have been used successfully, also inside Russian territory. Reports of the missions have been classified ,  few details are coming out. 

Unfortunate then that you can't prove that. If true it's as good as a declaration of war.

I'm reading that as saying Norwegian and Danish pilots are flying them, but if you didn't mean that best you had said so. If they are being flown by Ukrainian pilots they are Ukrainian planes.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Looking like commanders are retreating in Donetsk - makes a lot of sense why die needlessly if you are overwhelmed and have lost you best units to Kursk, and the war may finally be coming to some sort of conclusion. The land is broken, the remaining inhabitants are likely pro-Russian , have an armistice - allow both sides to beleive they have won, then build massiven defeces and re-arm. It works both ways. But to the last Ukrainian isn't a policy. Ukaraine can hold it's head up high they haven't lost morally and they have forged a new albeit smaller nation state and the world can move on and best of all the killing stops and we can go back to discussing the cheapest beer and breakfasts in Pattaya.I'm afraid this isn't  the Lord of the Rings and Sauron doen't die or at least not yet.

 

 

One wonders if it's an attempt to draw the Russians into a trap by pursuing the retreating Ukrainians beyond their supply lines. Wouldn't be the first time a victory turned into a defeat by falling for that one

[stevenl]

39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unfortunate then that you can't prove that. If true it's as good as a declaration of war.

I'm reading that as saying Norwegian and Danish pilots are flying them, but if you didn't mean that best you had said so. If they are being flown by Ukrainian pilots they are Ukrainian planes.

Thanks for confirming you're out of touch after all the fuss about the plane delivery and pilot training.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Thanks for confirming you're out of touch after all the fuss about the plane delivery and pilot training.

Topic isn't me, but I guess it's all you have if you haven't got anything to say on topic.

[Bkk Brian]

55 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Unfortunate then that you can't prove that. If true it's as good as a declaration of war.

I'm reading that as saying Norwegian and Danish pilots are flying them, but if you didn't mean that best you had said so. If they are being flown by Ukrainian pilots they are Ukrainian planes.

You are the only one reading as saying that's Danish and Norwegian pilots. To everyone else that does not have most other members on ignore they know they are F16's that were donated by Denmark or Norway.

[Mavideol]

Russia’s “cowardly” air strikes have cost the Kremlin almost £1.14bn

Putin Has Spent More Than £1bn This Week Alone Attacking Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-spent-more-1bn-week-113607579.html

 

[Mavideol]

Putin Minister Makes Eyebrow-Raising Claim About Russia's 'Readiness' For Peace With Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-minister-makes-eyebrow-raising-060028495.html

 

[Cameroni]

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

[Rimmer]

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[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

Yea right, says Russian health authorities, do you know how many civilians were slaughtered and massacred by Russians in Ukraine?

[tgw]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

 

do you have any examples of how Ukrainians intently targeted these civilians ?

 

for the Ruzzians we had examples of elderly people killed while bringing groceries home, on their bicycle, while kneeling with their hands tied in the back, torture chambers, etc.

and also systematic kidnapping of children.

 

you say 79 have been hospitalized - but you cannot possibly mean Ukrainians aren't bombing hospitals as the Ruzzians do ?

 

why do you keep reposting that sad story about regrettable civilian casualties over and over again ?

 

 

Edited August 30 by tgw

[ExpatOilWorker]

The Russians are getting nervous. 

 

Edited August 30 by ExpatOilWorker

[tgw]

11 minutes ago, ExpatOilWorker said:

The Russians are getting nervous. 

 

 

let's hope that orc is right

[Seppius]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

UKRAINE: 42 civilian causalities every day in two years of war

Two years since the escalation of the war in Ukraine, more than 10,500 civilians have been killed, including 587 children,

 

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/ukraine-42-civilian-causalities-every-day-two-years-war

 

All dead because of Putin and Russia, the ones dying in Kursk, also on Putin and Russia

 

[Cameroni]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yea right, says Russian health authorities, do you know how many civilians were slaughtered and massacred by Russians in Ukraine?

 

You do know a civilian is a civilian, whether they're Ukrainian or Russian? What makes a Ukrainian civilian death worse than a Russian civilian death?

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

You do know a civilian is a civilian, whether they're Ukrainian or Russian? What makes a Ukrainian civilian death worse than a Russian civilian death?

Intent counts, its the difference between normal civilian causalities in war and the deliberate targeting/murder and torture of of civilian's. Are we back to basics here?

[Social Media]

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[kwonitoy]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

There is collateral damage and then there are war crimes, guess which side commits which.

[orang37]

10 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Ukrainian troops keep killing civilians in Kursk. Civilian casualties on the rise.

 

"More than 30 civilians killed in Ukraine’s Russia incursion

 

More than 30 civilians have been killed and 140 injured in Russia’s Kursk region since Ukraine’s incursion two weeks ago, medical services said on Wednesday.

 

“As of the morning of August 21, 31 people have been confirmed dead as a result of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the Kursk region,” a spokesman for the medical services told official Russian news agency TASS.

 

Another “143 have received injuries of varying severity. Of these, 79 people have been hospitalized, including four children,” it added.

On Tuesday, Russian authorities had reported 17 dead and more than 140 wounded as a result of the Ukrainian offensive.

 

https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2024-08-21/more-than-30-civilians-killed-in-ukraines-russia-incursion/

You try and make it look like Russia is the Victim, now search the numbers that Russia did in Ukraine.
CITIES! Flattened cities, that's the grade in which Russia is playing.
I'm sure those people were unplanned casualties, not intentional like Russia's attacks on residential buildings

[MicroB]

Putin off on his hols to Mongolia

 

https://kyivindependent.com/putin-to-visit-icc-member-mongolia-next-week/

 

 

Earlier in the year, the former Prez of Mongolia trolled Russia

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

Putin off on his hols to Mongolia

 

https://kyivindependent.com/putin-to-visit-icc-member-mongolia-next-week/

 

 

Earlier in the year, the former Prez of Mongolia trolled Russia

 

 

Hopefully his last hols before getting locked up...........lol

 

Ukraine has called on Mongolia to have him arrested as they are a member country of the ICC.

 

Dr. Fadi el-Abdallah, another spokesperson for the ICC, emphasized that as a party to the ICC, Mongolia is obligated to cooperate under Chapter IX of the Rome Statute, the agreement that established the court.

 

Not going to happen of course, justice for those 1,000's of kidnapped Ukraine children will not be that easy.

[Mavideol]

‘Street Thug’ Putin and His Allies Considering Invasion of 3 More Countries

https://au.yahoo.com/news/street-thug-putin-allies-considering-115757925.html

 

[Mavideol]

Putin’s support at home and abroad dented by Kursk invasion

https://au.yahoo.com/news/putin-support-home-abroad-dented-203157992.html