Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

[Mavideol]

Rising tensions: a NATO ally scrambled jets to intercept a Russian spy plane

 

Rising tensions: a NATO ally scrambled jets to intercept a Russian spy plane (msn.com)

[Mavideol]

whom to believe, surely not Putin or his cronies

Putin feels fine, Kremlin is relieved

 

Putin feels fine, Kremlin is relieved (msn.com)

[Mavideol]

the love between friends without "limits" may after all has limits, Chinese will not give an inch of their country

China's controversial map causes tension with Russia

China's controversial map causes tension with Russia (msn.com)

 

[Mavideol]

NOOO comment  555

Exposed: Russia's false troop counts unveiled in new report

 

Exposed: Russia's false troop counts unveiled in new report (msn.com)

[candide]

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

the love between friends without "limits" may after all has limits, Chinese will not give an inch of their country

China's controversial map causes tension with Russia

China's controversial map causes tension with Russia (msn.com)

 

Putin signed a pact with his own blood! 😀

[problemfarang]

Hi guys. 

im in bangkok now. I have 2 weeks for rest.

i will get back and rejoin my unit in 2 weeks.

lets have a beer together 🙂

[zmisha]

8 hours ago, Mavideol said:

he does need more of meat feeder for the canons, since the Indians decided to leave, any race is welcome, the fatter the better 555

'First Step To World War': Ukraine Claims North Korea Is Looking To Send 10,000 Troops To Help Putin

https://au.yahoo.com/news/first-steps-world-war-ukraine-142407964.html

 

Well, it is OK when beloved friends help each other! Native Russian speakers in Yakutia or Buryatia look exactly the same as people from Democratic Korea. Therefore, they will feel comfortable in Vladimir Putin's army.

[kwonitoy]

 

[Mavideol]

Why scores of Russian troops are abandoning Putin's war

 

Why scores of Russian troops are abandoning Putin's war

[Mavideol]

A Russian APC drove up to two Ukrainian tanks and was promptly destroyed

 

A Russian APC drove up to two Ukrainian tanks and was promptly destroyed

[Mavideol]

I hope they do as they were mislead back in 1990 when they gave them away to Putin

Will Ukraine restore nuclear power?

Will Ukraine restore nuclear power?

[Mavideol]

Opinion - Russian ‘milblogger’ worries about a pro-Ukrainian fifth column

https://au.yahoo.com/news/opinion-russian-milblogger-worries-pro-170000288.html

 

[Mavideol]

US unveils sanctions tied to Russian drone attacks in Ukraine

https://au.yahoo.com/news/us-unveils-sanctions-tied-russian-161917831.html

 

[Mavideol]

North Korea’s special forces in Russia ready to join Putin’s war in Ukraine, South Korea’s spy agency says

 

https://au.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-special-forces-russia-124507190.html

[zmisha]

50 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Opinion - Russian ‘milblogger’ worries about a pro-Ukrainian fifth column

https://au.yahoo.com/news/opinion-russian-milblogger-worries-pro-170000288.html

 

"Aside from the fact that the list is effectively a how-to guide telling the Russian opposition what they should do to fight Putin’s regime,..."
Yes! This is the most interesting part. This military blogger also liked to tell the public about the exact location of Russian troops and their movements. Of course, he was naive enough to simply not know what would follow. It took Putin two years to stop allowing such people into combat zones.

[Jingthing]

The plot thickens.

The west is gonna have to make up their minds about this.

Helping Ukraine just survive rather than winning will not cut it in the long run.

Hard choices indeed.

 

 

[Denim]

Given that in 2023 the UK spent 4.3 billion pounds on asylum seekers and that the Ukrainian armed forces are short of manpower it would be useful to both the UK and Ukraine if all the asylum seekers were sent to fight for Kiev.  Talk about kill two birds with one stone !  For those that serve an insentive could be given. Full pay ( they want to work don't they ) plus a bonus that they can take back home with them when the war is over. Win win .

 

My point is that in the event of a cut in funding from the USA Ukraine should not be abandoned to its fate for want of cash. Billions are being spent all over Europe dealing with asylum claimants. Why should'nt they fight for the right to remain in Europe. ?

[zmisha]

17 minutes ago, Denim said:

Given that in 2023 the UK spent 4.3 billion pounds on asylum seekers and that the Ukrainian armed forces are short of manpower it would be useful to both the UK and Ukraine if all the asylum seekers were sent to fight for Kiev.  Talk about kill two birds with one stone !  For those that serve an insentive could be given. Full pay ( they want to work don't they ) plus a bonus that they can take back home with them when the war is over. Win win .

 

My point is that in the event of a cut in funding from the USA Ukraine should not be abandoned to its fate for want of cash. Billions are being spent all over Europe dealing with asylum claimants. Why should'nt they fight for the right to remain in Europe. ?

You probably have some kind of profession. How do you feel about newbies with zero experience in your profession? They are a burden, aren't they? It's the same with volunteers without combat experience. A military career is very similar to any other. People without experience are a burden there - any military man will tell you that.

[tgw]

1 hour ago, zmisha said:

You probably have some kind of profession. How do you feel about newbies with zero experience in your profession? They are a burden, aren't they? It's the same with volunteers without combat experience. A military career is very similar to any other. People without experience are a burden there - any military man will tell you that.

 

A modern military is 90% about logistics.

Warehousing, transports, driving, inventory management, personnel management, intendance, supplies, food, medical .... a large majority of military jobs are not combat roles.

 

I also do believe that a deal should be struck with potential recruits - their family gets well cared for while they serve in the military - with an appropriate compensation that covers their family's future in case of their injury or death.

 

Form reserve bataillons, train them for 6 months and then assign them as reserve/training units to existing fighting units so they can at first fill support roles and learn the ropes and replace losses.

[Denim]

2 hours ago, zmisha said:

You probably have some kind of profession. How do you feel about newbies with zero experience in your profession? They are a burden, aren't they? It's the same with volunteers without combat experience. A military career is very similar to any other. People without experience are a burden there - any military man will tell you that.

 

True indeed. But their is thing called training these days. 6 weeks drilling , first aid,weapons and tactics. All armies have this. Even Ukrainian troops were sent to the UK for combat training.

[Jingthing]

I'm not really a George Will kind of guy, but I think he's correct that World War 3 has already started and that the west isn't facing up to that reality (but the axis of autocracy is).

He points out something interesting.

As World War 3 is the most important thing happening on the planet now, why is foreign policy such a back burner issue in the US presidential campaign for both candidates (which he contrasts to the 1940 US election).

I guess the reason is probably the American people don't want to hear about it.

It's kind of like the cliche about politics taken to war -- you may not be interested in war but war is interested in you.

He makes a good point, but I have some hope at least that Harris not being a Putin loving isolationist is the much better choice to step up to the plate when facing the issue becomes a necessity.

 

Note the opinion piece by George Will was recently published in the Washington Post but behind a paywall so I won't link to it but I have given my source that I'm reacting to. 

It is titled:

World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.

A new axis is sowing global disorder. The U.S. presidential campaign is what reckless disregard looks like.

[Gweiloman]

6 hours ago, Denim said:

Given that in 2023 the UK spent 4.3 billion pounds on asylum seekers and that the Ukrainian armed forces are short of manpower it would be useful to both the UK and Ukraine if all the asylum seekers were sent to fight for Kiev.  Talk about kill two birds with one stone !  For those that serve an insentive could be given. Full pay ( they want to work don't they ) plus a bonus that they can take back home with them when the war is over. Win win .

 

My point is that in the event of a cut in funding from the USA Ukraine should not be abandoned to its fate for want of cash. Billions are being spent all over Europe dealing with asylum claimants. Why should'nt they fight for the right to remain in Europe. ?

 

4 hours ago, tgw said:

 

A modern military is 90% about logistics.

Warehousing, transports, driving, inventory management, personnel management, intendance, supplies, food, medical .... a large majority of military jobs are not combat roles.

 

I also do believe that a deal should be struck with potential recruits - their family gets well cared for while they serve in the military - with an appropriate compensation that covers their family's future in case of their injury or death.

 

Form reserve bataillons, train them for 6 months and then assign them as reserve/training units to existing fighting units so they can at first fill support roles and learn the ropes and replace losses.

Seems like the Hope strategy is being replaced by the Desperation strategy.

[tgw]

3 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Seems like the Hope strategy is being replaced by the Desperation strategy.

let's ask North Korea for help 🤣

[Gweiloman]

Just now, tgw said:

let's ask North Korea for help 🤣

Actually, there’s no evidence of NK troops. Even Mark Rutte said as much. It’s just western propaganda.

[liddelljohn]

14 minutes ago, Gweiloman said:

Actually, there’s no evidence of NK troops. Even Mark Rutte said as much. It’s just western propaganda.

Why is NK and Moscow media showing  NK troops  being  deployed in Russia  then ,, The  Western media are only taking the feeds from the NK and Moscow media ........

[Denim]

11 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

 

Seems like the Hope strategy is being replaced by the Desperation strategy.

 

Well, let's see how that strategy works out for Putin and the slaves he just bought from North Korea. 

 

 

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[tgw]

1 minute ago, Denim said:

Well, let's see how that strategy works out for Putin and the slaves he just bought from Korea. 

 

Bringing North Korean soldiers really really reeks of desperation

[kwonitoy]

It should be a "weapons free" from the US, but with an election in a little more than 2 weeks I don't think there will be any action other than a statement saying that this is bad

[kwonitoy]

 

[Jingthing]

Yes western leadership to help Ukraine just (maybe) survive instead of to win is clearly making things harder in the long run. If the convicted felon in the US comes to power and engineers some kind of bogus temporary cease fire falsely labelled as a peace plan, that effect will be multiplied exponentially.