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Latest developments and discussion of recent events in the Ukraine War

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I have been to Ukraine several times on business and I have family there. I have also been to Russia on business. I would not be able to count how many times.   Russia blatantly vi

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As long as commentators in the west preface with 'if Putin wins', they disclose how much they still believe in their own delusional propaganda. There are only two possible scenarios - Russia wins and

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EU countries will do it, regardless of Trump. Whether it's wasteful or not is not important. The expenditure will simply be necessary if Putin wins. Several countries are already thinking about r

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Donald Trump Tells Putin Not to Escalate Ukraine War in Post-Election Call

President-elect Donald Trump spoke with Russia's President Vladimir Putin in a post-election phone call, reportedly telling him not to escalate the Ukraine war, according to The Washington Post.

Trump reportedly reminded Putin about "Washington's sizeable military presence in Europe," the Post's Sunday report said. The call was made from his Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Florida.

The pair reportedly discussed the goal of peace on the European continent, and Trump said he would look for a follow-up conversation to discuss a "resolution of Ukraine's war."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tells-putin-not-escalate-ukraine-war-post-election-call-1983556

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34 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Donald Trump Tells Putin Not to Escalate Ukraine War in Post-Election Call

President-elect Donald Trump spoke with Russia's President Vladimir Putin in a post-election phone call, reportedly telling him not to escalate the Ukraine war, according to The Washington Post.

Trump reportedly reminded Putin about "Washington's sizeable military presence in Europe," the Post's Sunday report said. The call was made from his Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Florida.

The pair reportedly discussed the goal of peace on the European continent, and Trump said he would look for a follow-up conversation to discuss a "resolution of Ukraine's war."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tells-putin-not-escalate-ukraine-war-post-election-call-1983556

 

I must say, as much as I am displeased by Trump's election win, I am also amused at the perspective of a spat between Putin and Trump, the latter trying to get a "deal" from Putin, getting humiliated by Putin and as a consequence sending even more firepower into Ukraine than Zelenskyy requests.

Trump trying his best (or his worst - it's the same) to end the war in 24h will be amusing.

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9 hours ago, Gweiloman said:

Looks like western msm is really losing the plot with completely erroneous headlines. They are no longer credible sources in my opinion.

as you said.... it's ONLY your opinion and you do have the right to one/your opinion

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UPDATE:

big fight going on here

they are on full attack and using gas too

incendiary thermite munitions too

Allah protect us all

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12 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Donald Trump Tells Putin Not to Escalate Ukraine War in Post-Election Call

President-elect Donald Trump spoke with Russia's President Vladimir Putin in a post-election phone call, reportedly telling him not to escalate the Ukraine war, according to The Washington Post.

Trump reportedly reminded Putin about "Washington's sizeable military presence in Europe," the Post's Sunday report said. The call was made from his Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Florida.

The pair reportedly discussed the goal of peace on the European continent, and Trump said he would look for a follow-up conversation to discuss a "resolution of Ukraine's war."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-tells-putin-not-escalate-ukraine-war-post-election-call-1983556

Not to escalate is good for Donald. But is it good for Vladimir? I doubt so. The only chance for Vladimir to win is to roll out his impressive, neatly shaved huge nuclear balls. But this only could be possible in the process of uncontrolled escalation which is the natural excuse for it. Without such excuse, Vladimir would look as an aggressor, not a victim of American "hidden intervention" as he named it in the recent Valdai forum.

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1 minute ago, zmisha said:

Not to escalate is good for Donald. But is it good for Vladimir? I doubt so. The only chance for Vladimir to win is to roll out his impressive, neatly shaved huge nuclear balls. But this only could be possible in the process of uncontrolled escalation which is the natural excuse for it. Without such excuse, Vladimir would look as an aggressor, not a victim of American "hidden intervention" as he named it in the recent Valdai forum.

Kremlin says that call never happened.

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23 hours ago, stevenl said:

Of course they're not in your opinion. Better stick to your fringe sites that confirm your opinions.

 

14 hours ago, Mavideol said:

as you said.... it's ONLY your opinion and you do have the right to one/your opinion

Which part of “Russia attacks Estonia” did you not understand? A missile struck an apartment building in Kiev which is in Ukraine, not Estonia. The Estonian ambassador happened to be one of the many residents in this apartment building.

 

If you don’t view the headline as downright wrong, there is nothing much to say.

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15 hours ago, Mavideol said:

5 or 6 news outlets saying the same thing and yet the Russian's keep denying it  555

 

Trump in phone call advised Putin not to escalate in Ukraine - Washington Post

https://au.yahoo.com/news/trump-phone-call-urged-putin-195641814.html

 

Seems like you don’t understand how the system works. Most news outlets get their information from mainly Reuters and/or AFP and then report it in their own media. They do not do their own research or journalism. 

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