connda Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 It looks as thought Thailand has made a decision to align with China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa, and India, the Global South, and other non-Western developing and third-world nations in what will be an economic and possibly a future security consortium to counter the unipolar West and the G7. Next up: Sanctions threats from the US and the EU. Coming soon no doubt. Monopolies detest competition. "Bangkok sees Thailand’s future in a multipolar world, the Asian country’s government has said Thailand will apply to become a member of the BRICS economic bloc, the government of the Southeast Asian country announced on Tuesday" Source: https://thepressunited.com/updates/brics-receives-new-membership-bid/ You can find multiple sources on this development if you do an Internet search on "Thailand approves official BRICS membership bid" 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, connda said: It looks as thought Thailand has made a decision to align with China, Russia, Brazil, South Africa, and India, the Global South, and other non-Western developing and third-world nations in what will be an economic and possibly a future security consortium to counter the unipolar West and the G7. Next up: Sanctions threats from the US and the EU. Coming soon no doubt. Monopolies detest competition. "Bangkok sees Thailand’s future in a multipolar world, the Asian country’s government has said Thailand will apply to become a member of the BRICS economic bloc, the government of the Southeast Asian country announced on Tuesday" Source: https://thepressunited.com/updates/brics-receives-new-membership-bid/ You can find multiple sources on this development if you do an Internet search on "Thailand approves official BRICS membership bid" I see this got buried in a hurry. No problem. Time. Given enough time all facts floats to the surface. This week, next week, next month - then suddenly it can't be ignored. ⏲️ 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post topt Posted May 29 Popular Post Share Posted May 29 8 hours ago, connda said: Next up: Sanctions threats from the US and the EU. Coming soon no doubt. Monopolies detest competition. What nonsense. What sanctions are there on India and South Africa - and Brazil.......... Thailand is but one country applying and not the first in line. There was a fairly recent thread on this. What real difference do you think it will make to you if/when they do join? 2 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted May 29 Popular Post Share Posted May 29 I was getting ready to suggest Googling 'Thailand BRICS RT news', but noticed the linked blip in OP, is pinched from RT Does that mean we're allowed to post RT news links now ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post newbee2022 Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 Seems to be a reasonable decision. Within BRICS they can act on a same level as the other members. I can't see any tight ties with Europe or US. 🙏 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 42 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: I can't see any tight ties with Europe or US. Other than PM thavisin had been recently traveling worldwide to Western countries begging for their investments into Thailand. Thailand will not likely become a Western loyalty country. BRIC is forecasted to overtake the G7 in economic size within two decades. Apr. 2024 https://www.visualcapitalist.com What could wrong within 20 years? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 54 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Seems to be a reasonable decision. Within BRICS they can act on a same level as the other members. I can't see any tight ties with Europe or US. 🙏 Thankfully as a FTA w/USA would suck ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 22 hours ago, topt said: What nonsense. What sanctions are there on India and South Africa - and Brazil.......... Thailand is but one country applying and not the first in line. There was a fairly recent thread on this. What real difference do you think it will make to you if/when they do join? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68988190 https://www.citizen.co.za/network-news/lnn/article/us-president-did-not-warn-of-sanctions-if-ruling-anc-wins-2024-elections/ Example to threats above. You obviously don't keep up with U.S. sanctions threats. Give it time. As BRICS+ allows more of the Global South, ME/NA, South and Latin America, Asian, and countries which the U.S. openly dislikes to join the alliance, the U.S. will threaten sanctions in order to convince these potential member countries to reconsider. Why? That's the standard operating procedures for the U.S. and other European post-colonial powers. The BRICS is an existential threat to U.S. and Western unipolar economic hegemony as well as a threat to the U.S. Reserve Currency status, and its going to kick, scream, and throw a temper tantrum when it loses market share and its reserve currency status to the other 6 billion people on the planet who don't want to play by the U.S. "rules-based international order." What real difference do you think it will make to you if/when they do join? An economic and security realignment that will allow BRICS nations to ignore the economic and military threats posed by Western countries which currently make up the G-7 which represents less than 1 billion people on this planet, as well as a loss of relevance of the G-7 nations as well as isolation of countries who are openly hostile to countries in the BRICS alliance. What nonsense. Time will tell. Watch for news from the October 2024 BRICS Summit in Kazan, Russian. https://infobrics.org/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 4 minutes ago, connda said: Example to threats above. You obviously don't keep up with U.S. sanctions threats. India looking to do a specific deal with Iran - not really directly BRICS related is it....... Second example has been proven (according to your link) as a fake...... So how long did it take you to come up with those 2 poor examples which don't really support your original hypotheses....... 7 minutes ago, connda said: What real difference do you think it will make to you if/when they do join? An economic and security realignment that will allow BRICS nations to ignore the economic and military threats posed by Western countries which currently make up the G-7 which represents less than 1 billion people on this planet, as well as a loss of relevance of the G-7 nations as well as isolation of countries who are openly hostile to countries in the BRICS alliance. And your answer tells us how that affects you personally........? I was genuinely intrigued as to how you thought it would impact your life. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 The USA needs anything Thailand like someone needs genital warts. 🤣 Here's a comprehensive and currently realistic view from last year... https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/8/24/can-brics-dethrone-the-us-dollar-itll-be-an-uphill-climb-experts-say 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bradiston Posted May 30 Popular Post Share Posted May 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, connda said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68988190 https://www.citizen.co.za/network-news/lnn/article/us-president-did-not-warn-of-sanctions-if-ruling-anc-wins-2024-elections/ Example to threats above. You obviously don't keep up with U.S. sanctions threats. Give it time. As BRICS+ allows more of the Global South, ME/NA, South and Latin America, Asian, and countries which the U.S. openly dislikes to join the alliance, the U.S. will threaten sanctions in order to convince these potential member countries to reconsider. Why? That's the standard operating procedures for the U.S. and other European post-colonial powers. The BRICS is an existential threat to U.S. and Western unipolar economic hegemony as well as a threat to the U.S. Reserve Currency status, and its going to kick, scream, and throw a temper tantrum when it loses market share and its reserve currency status to the other 6 billion people on the planet who don't want to play by the U.S. "rules-based international order." What real difference do you think it will make to you if/when they do join? An economic and security realignment that will allow BRICS nations to ignore the economic and military threats posed by Western countries which currently make up the G-7 which represents less than 1 billion people on this planet, as well as a loss of relevance of the G-7 nations as well as isolation of countries who are openly hostile to countries in the BRICS alliance. What nonsense. Time will tell. Watch for news from the October 2024 BRICS Summit in Kazan, Russian. https://infobrics.org/ BRICS is just a mechanism for the big 3 to help themselves to anything they want in the Global South. It's going to be a total carve up. You think the west was bad. Just wait for this sxxx show to kick off. Every day I read comments about China setting debt traps, muscling in on other people's territory, what a danger they are to world peace and democracy (same as Russia) etc etc. Yet when it comes to BRICS, suddenly they and the other land grabbers are the saviours of the world. How bloody naive can you get? Putin's after superpower status. Never underestimate that mf. Edited May 30 by bradiston 2 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 24 minutes ago, bradiston said: BRICS is just a mechanism for the big 3 to help themselves to anything they want in the Global South. It's going to be a total carve up. You think the west was bad. Just wait for this sxxx show to kick off. Every day I read comments about China setting debt traps, muscling in on other people's territory, what a danger they are to world peace and democracy (same as Russia) etc etc. Yet when it comes to BRICS, suddenly they and the other land grabbers are the saviours of the world. How bloody naive can you get? Leopards can't change their spots. That's sort of just projecting what the US, Europe, and Britain have been doing for the last three centuries. <laughs> 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted May 30 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 30 48 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said: The USA needs anything Thailand like someone needs genital warts. 🤣 Here's a comprehensive and currently realistic view from last year... https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/8/24/can-brics-dethrone-the-us-dollar-itll-be-an-uphill-climb-experts-say Whenever you see "experts say" it's time to figure out things on your own. But most people have all of the analytical power of a box of rocks, so they just go with their home-country's propaganda and call it "reality." Whatever..... Time will tell all although the moronic-class will be told that Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength - and they'll happily buy it all and cheer for war, as War is Peace. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptic7 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 27 minutes ago, connda said: Whenever you see "experts say" it's time to figure out things on your own. But most people have all of the analytical power of a box of rocks, so they just go with their home-country's propaganda and call it "reality." Whatever..... Time will tell all although the moronic-class will be told that Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength - and they'll happily buy it all and cheer for war, as War is Peace. I mostly agree with your post above. However, the article I referenced was fair, factual (at least for the present) and painted a solid picture for the boxes of rocks out there. Disagree❓ Edited May 30 by Skeptic7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seppius Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Joining a group with some of the most corrupt countries in the world, maybe Thailand would fit right in 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris333 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Do you know someone who wants to join U.S.A $dollar area ? Only immigrants because America economy have high taxes. So Brics countries is an alternative to USA$ dollar devalued currensy....replacing USA$ with gold standards....... https://www.usdebtclock.org/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunHeineken Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 After the last military coup, the military government strengthened Thailand's ties with China. It's at that point, the USA basically gave up on Thailand and turned their focus towards other allies in the region. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 hours ago, newbee2022 said: Seems to be a reasonable decision. Within BRICS they can act on a same level as the other members. I can't see any tight ties with Europe or US. 🙏 Maybe ‘arm twisting ‘ by big brother China whom Thailand depends for infrastructure construction and financing . However Thailand has a big trading partner in USA too especially the agricultural and seafood products. Some sectors of the economy need to be pro china while others need to be pro america. A dilemma indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ctkong Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 America basically does herself a disservice when she freeze Russia’s 300 billion dollar sovereign fund as well as weaponizing the dollar for the whole world to see. Nothing can be more glaring to all by the ‘below the belt’ punches. If a global power like Russia can get such treatment, what is there to prevent America from doing the same to other lesser countries at her whims? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunHeineken Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 6 minutes ago, Ctkong said: However Thailand has a big trading partner in USA too especially the agricultural and seafood products. USA is now strengthening ties with Vietnam. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/09/11/joint-leaders-statement-elevating-united-states-vietnam-relations-to-a-comprehensive-strategic-partnership/ Thailand has already chosen Big Brother. They'll have to live with that in the future. Plenty of other markets in the region for the USA to look towards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunHeineken Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 minutes ago, Ctkong said: what is there to prevent America from doing the same to other lesser countries at her whims? Been doing it for decades. To the victor goes the spoils. (WW2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Excellent choice as the US and US$ domination is nearing doomsday. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paris333 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Viet-nam is number one country if you want to make purchases and dont paying customs in European Union. I purchase China mobile appliance smartphones core 10 one at a time and I didnt pay customs in European Union bureaucracy knight crussaders. (I havent been there althought I often travel to Thailand) My favorite place after Thailand is Malaysia Kuala Lumpur in Petronas Tower area and secondly Bukit Bitang -Fahreneit area. I love Malay origins and places in Kuala Lumpur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradiston Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 6 hours ago, connda said: That's sort of just projecting what the US, Europe, and Britain have been doing for the last three centuries. <laughs> And you think Russia and China are any different? Explain how. The global South is in effect just Africa and South America. So Africa is going to get recolonised by Russia and China. It's happening already. Military too from Russia. Naive to think Putin's intentions are anything else. And Xi the same. South China Sea anyone? Taiwan? Thibet? Xinjiang? I hear the non stop anti Chinese screams from people on this forum. Yet they're huge Brickies and massively anti West when push comes to shove. Good luck with that. You're on your own. Edited May 30 by bradiston 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 8 hours ago, Ctkong said: Maybe ‘arm twisting ‘ by big brother China whom Thailand depends for infrastructure construction and financing . However Thailand has a big trading partner in USA too especially the agricultural and seafood products. Some sectors of the economy need to be pro china while others need to be pro america. A dilemma indeed. Maybe. But the world is shifting. There other big players than the former hegemon USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaiyaTH Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: Maybe. But the world is shifting. There other big players than the former hegemon USA. It's a bit more bad than that, it is actually the same elite players, they just decided they wanna play in other countries now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradiston Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, newbee2022 said: Maybe. But the world is shifting. There other big players than the former hegemon USA. 30 years ago, the USSR could be described as a "hegemon". They controlled vast swathes of the planet. Most of Central Asia and Eastern Europe, and the Baltic states. All this rubbish about the US taking over the world! The USSR collapsed and it's vast empire broke up. The West didn't steal it, nor even make any real moves to take it over. Those eastern European and Baltic states were given the option of joining the EU, which almost all of them did. I wonder why? So much has been invented about "the West". Most critics on this platform and elsewhere originated there, and indeed are still there, and I don't see any mass migration towards BRICS amongst them. The USSR dominated eastern Europe for almost 50 years, and turned it into a disgustingly corrupt authoritarian dystopia. Every country had a vicious secret police, one of which Comrade Putin was heavily involved with. His CV stinks. They suppressed by force any show of resistance, 1956 in Budapest, and 1968 in Prague. So it's just a bunch of grossly hypocritical ignorant churlish ingrates who whine and whinge about their origins. Go and live in a BRICS country! There's plenty of choice! And good riddance. Edited May 31 by bradiston 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbee2022 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, bradiston said: 30 years ago, the USSR could be described as a "hegemon". They controlled vast swathes of the planet. Most of Central Asia and Eastern Europe, and the Baltic states. All this rubbish about the US taking over the world! The USSR collapsed and it's vast empire broke up. The West didn't steal it, nor even make any real moves to take it over. Those eastern European and Baltic states were given the option of joining the EU, which almost all of them did. I wonder why? So much has been invented about "the West". Most critics on this platform and elsewhere originated there, and indeed are still there, and I don't see any mass migration towards BRICS amongst them. The USSR dominated eastern Europe for almost 50 years, and turned it into a disgustingly corrupt authoritarian dystopia. Every country had a vicious secret police, one of which Comrade Putin was heavily involved with. His CV stinks. They suppressed by force any show of resistance, 1956 in Budapest, and 1968 in Prague. So it's just a bunch of grossly hypocritical ignorant churlish ingrates who whine and whinge about their origins. Go and live in a BRICS country! There's plenty of choice! And good riddance. Sorry to say, but that's nonsense what you post here: "Combined, the BRICS members encompass about 30% of the world's land surface and 45% of the global population.[a] Brazil, Russia, India, and China are among the world's ten largest countries by population, area, and gross domestic product (GDP) nominal and by purchasing power parity. All five initial member states are members of the G20, with a combined nominal GDP of US$28 trillion (about 27% of the gross world product), a total GDP (PPP) of around US$57 trillion (33% of global GDP PPP), and an estimated US$4.5 trillion in combined foreign reserves (as of 2018).[8][9]" So, it makes sense to join these countries for economical benefit. As US and the so called "West" are going to be unstable and unreliable, Thailand's move towards BRICS is understandable. More even because the cultural bonds with China.🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradiston Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 15 minutes ago, newbee2022 said: Sorry to say, but that's nonsense what you post here: "Combined, the BRICS members encompass about 30% of the world's land surface and 45% of the global population.[a] Brazil, Russia, India, and China are among the world's ten largest countries by population, area, and gross domestic product (GDP) nominal and by purchasing power parity. All five initial member states are members of the G20, with a combined nominal GDP of US$28 trillion (about 27% of the gross world product), a total GDP (PPP) of around US$57 trillion (33% of global GDP PPP), and an estimated US$4.5 trillion in combined foreign reserves (as of 2018).[8][9]" So, it makes sense to join these countries for economical benefit. As US and the so called "West" are going to be unstable and unreliable, Thailand's move towards BRICS is understandable. More even because the cultural bonds with China.🙏 So what? Did I ever argue about the size of BRICS? No. I denounced Russia as an ex hegemon and China as a current one. Your idiotic deflections are completely irrelevant. The 2 biggest players are near fascist states, authoritarian, dictatorial, one party. So what's to like? Absolutely sweet fa. Do you live in one? It's all rubbish, this slobbering over the 2 nastiest states in the world. Why don't you live in China or Russia, newbie? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Of course Thailand wants to join BRICS. Military dictatorships stick together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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