Trump found guilty of 34 counts of falsifying business records

[Roo Island]

11 minutes ago, Presto said:

No worries. When in need he'll buy his way out. He still has all those classified, essential to national security, documents, remember?

Money will be no problem.

Money is no problem because stupid Americans give him money. Who in their right mind would buy those ugly gold shoes? My gosh.

[Presto]

8 minutes ago, Roo Island said:

Money is no problem because stupid Americans give him money. Who in their right mind would buy those ugly gold shoes? My gosh.

Or the childish NFT's? Btw, IMO the Dark Brandon merch is just as childish.

Edited June 3 by Presto

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Glenn Kessler, Washington Post, fact check.

The felon always throws a bone to his goobers, so long as he remembers what Roy Cohn taught him. It's like his Mall speech on 6 Jan 2021. He said 'peacefully' 1 time, but 'fight' more than 30 times. He could see his crowd had baseball bats and other weapons. Later, as he watched on TV as his terrorists stormed the Capitol, beat and bear sprayed police, broke windows, erected a gallows, and chanted Hang Mike Pence, he sat idle watching it on TV. Only he had the authority to call the National Guard, and instead he sat and watched for 187 minutes. THAT is proof of intent and obviated that single 'peacefully'. He knew full well what his terrorists would do (terrorist is DirFBI Wray's term), and sat and watched them do it.

 

Same with "both". Both means two. One side was slavery proponents and Jew haters. Q.E.D.

 

It's also like his "Stand back and stand down". He knew exactly how his people would take that, and when he called them to DC for the 6th (Tweeting "It'll be WILD"), they knew what he meant.

 

He knows full well how his supporters will react when he doxxes an opponent or critic. The Coast Guard guy Christopher Hansson, who planned on assassinated everyone from Elizabeth Warren to Joe Scarborough, built a spreadsheet using nicknames like "Pocahontas" (for Warren) and "Low IQ" (for Maxine Waters). Wonder where he got those nicknames?

 

Right after the felon spoke of religious groups aiding migrants coming to the US, Robert Bowers walked into a synagogue and gunned down 11 people, because that synagogue was part of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. Cesar Sayoc sent bombs to a list of people the felon had publicly noted as critics. The felon knows EXACTLY what his words will elicit.

 

When he forgets to throw a bone, he has his team correct it later, such as the Helsinki "would' to 'wouldn't", or claiming disinfectant was just a joke.

 

Now he tells us all the migrants are rapists and those just released from jail and even 29,000 Chinese soldiers sneaking in at the southern border. He says the Admin does nothing, hoping everyone will forget he told his butt boy Johnson to quash the Lankford Bill, because the felon needed it as an election issue.

 

Listen to his bizarre rant, which can be found on YouTube (his presser the day after his felony convictions). He says Biden is going to raise taxes "by 4 times", which means those of us in the highest tax bracket will owe the USG 50% more than our total income. Oh, and Biden---the guy who got the Infrastructure Bill passed that is fixing, inter alia, roads and bridges---is going to take our cars away.

 

The felon ranting in the 30 minute tirade is not sane. Batsh!t crazy.

[AreYouGerman]

5 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

It's like his Mall speech on 6 Jan 2021. He said 'peacefully' 1 time, but 'fight' more than 30 times. He could see his crowd had baseball bats and other weapons. Later, as he watched on TV as his terrorists stormed the Capitol, beat and bear sprayed police, broke windows, erected a gallows, and chanted Hang Mike Pence, he sat idle watching it on TV. Only he had the authority to call the National Guard, and instead he sat and watched for 187 minutes. THAT is proof of intent and obviated that single 'peacefully'. He knew full well what his terrorists would do (terrorist is DirFBI Wray's term), and sat and watched them do it.

 

After what they did to the US with the fake election he should have declared himself President and should have went all in, for the greater good, but he didn't want to put his life on the line and now is the exact boring politician he once opposed, including Israel first instead of America first.

 

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

After what they did to the US with the fake election he should have declared himself President and should have went all in, for the greater good, but he didn't want to put his life on the line and now is the exact boring politician he once opposed, including Israel first instead of America first.

 

What fake election? Your posts read like a Kremlin misinformation / divide the west bot.

[AreYouGerman]

Just now, Jingthing said:

What fake election? Your posts read like a Kremlin misinformation / divide the west bot.

 

The US election of 2020 was fake. Isn't that common knowledge by now? And what does this have to do with the Kremlin? Is that what CNN/FOX tells you or how do you come up with nonsense like that?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

The US election of 2020 was fake. Isn't that common knowledge by now? And what does this have to do with the Kremlin? Is that what CNN/FOX tells you or how do you come up with nonsense like that?

How was the 2020 USA election fake.......?

No BS, just facts....🤔

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said:

 

The US election of 2020 was fake. Isn't that common knowledge by now? And what does this have to do with the Kremlin? Is that what CNN/FOX tells you or how do you come up with nonsense like that?

It was not fake. Only moronic Trump cultists believe that it was.

Edited June 3 by Jingthing

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Roo Island said:

The big swing will be with independents, which as you know, is the largest political party. Republicans being the smallest.

I had pledged not to waste bandwidth on you, but like my pledge to not do girls with fake boobs on Fridays, I cant resist.

 

Dude. The best illustration of the suspect nature of everything you have said here is your calling independent voters "the largest political party".

 

As I have said previously, you know knothing about US politics

 

Now go babblefroth your TDS nonsense into the ether.

[AreYouGerman]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It was not fake. Only moronic Trump cultists believe that it was.

 

You mean supporters of the Zionist and Abortionist Trump?

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

I had pledged not to waste bandwidth on you, but like my pledge to not do girls with fake boobs on Fridays, I cant resist.

 

Dude. The best illustration of the suspect nature of everything you have said here is your calling independent voters "the largest political party".

 

As I have said previously, you know knothing about US politics

 

Now go babblefroth your TDS nonsense into the ether.

Many more people identify as independents than either republican or democrat.

You didn't know that?!?

 

[watthong]

On 6/2/2024 at 1:07 PM, Yagoda said:

Did ya see that one teenage kid go crazy when Trump went past.

 

Folks are more excited when taking a dump than seeing Joe Biden.

 

  Were you inside or outside the stalls?

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Trolling here?

 

Surely your not that stupid to misinterpret what I clearly said, or are you joining your little buddy in telling us that independents are a political party?

I never said they're a political party so stop lying.

But it's very significant that such a large percentage of people identify as independents.

Much larger than the percentages that identify as republican or democrat.

 

If ‘Independent’ were a party, it could dominate American politics (thehill.com)

[Yagoda]

30 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I never said they're a political party so stop lying.

But it's very significant that such a large percentage of people identify as independents.

Much larger than the percentages that identify as republican or democrat.

 

If ‘Independent’ were a party, it could dominate American politics (thehill.com)

Troll. Caught you again as so many people have here.

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, Walker88 said:

The felon always throws a bone to his goobers, so long as he remembers what Roy Cohn taught him. It's like his Mall speech on 6 Jan 2021. He said 'peacefully' 1 time, but 'fight' more than 30 times. He could see his crowd had baseball bats and other weapons. Later, as he watched on TV as his terrorists stormed the Capitol, beat and bear sprayed police, broke windows, erected a gallows, and chanted Hang Mike Pence, he sat idle watching it on TV. Only he had the authority to call the National Guard, and instead he sat and watched for 187 minutes. THAT is proof of intent and obviated that single 'peacefully'. He knew full well what his terrorists would do (terrorist is DirFBI Wray's term), and sat and watched them do it.

 

Same with "both". Both means two. One side was slavery proponents and Jew haters. Q.E.D.

 

It's also like his "Stand back and stand down". He knew exactly how his people would take that, and when he called them to DC for the 6th (Tweeting "It'll be WILD"), they knew what he meant.

 

He knows full well how his supporters will react when he doxxes an opponent or critic. The Coast Guard guy Christopher Hansson, who planned on assassinated everyone from Elizabeth Warren to Joe Scarborough, built a spreadsheet using nicknames like "Pocahontas" (for Warren) and "Low IQ" (for Maxine Waters). Wonder where he got those nicknames?

 

Right after the felon spoke of religious groups aiding migrants coming to the US, Robert Bowers walked into a synagogue and gunned down 11 people, because that synagogue was part of the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society. Cesar Sayoc sent bombs to a list of people the felon had publicly noted as critics. The felon knows EXACTLY what his words will elicit.

 

When he forgets to throw a bone, he has his team correct it later, such as the Helsinki "would' to 'wouldn't", or claiming disinfectant was just a joke.

 

Now he tells us all the migrants are rapists and those just released from jail and even 29,000 Chinese soldiers sneaking in at the southern border. He says the Admin does nothing, hoping everyone will forget he told his butt boy Johnson to quash the Lankford Bill, because the felon needed it as an election issue.

 

Listen to his bizarre rant, which can be found on YouTube (his presser the day after his felony convictions). He says Biden is going to raise taxes "by 4 times", which means those of us in the highest tax bracket will owe the USG 50% more than our total income. Oh, and Biden---the guy who got the Infrastructure Bill passed that is fixing, inter alia, roads and bridges---is going to take our cars away.

 

The felon ranting in the 30 minute tirade is not sane. Batsh!t crazy.

Your talking points are very last election cycle. Please try to find new material.

 

It is the exact attitude, calling people who dont agree with you "goobers" and the like, that cost Hillary the election. "Basket of deplorables" anyone?

[Jingthing]

Just now, Yagoda said:

Troll. Caught you again as so many people have here.

Of course you did. How bizarre.

[newnative]

2 hours ago, freeworld said:

Was just reading on yahoo news that Donald Trump is barred from 37 countries due to his conviction unless he seeks and is granted special permissions to enter.

 

 

''Donald Trump Is Banned from 37 Countries as Convicted Felon, Including Major Allies Like Canada and U.K''

 

 

37 countries breathing a collective sigh of relief.

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Your talking points are very last election cycle. Please try to find new material.

 

It is the exact attitude, calling people who dont agree with you "goobers" and the like, that cost Hillary the election. "Basket of deplorables" anyone?

She was right.

[G_Money]

3 hours ago, earlinclaifornia said:

Trump is now a convicted felon. Anyone who thinks this is going to strengthen him as a candidate is delusional. He has three more upcoming criminal trials. His company Trump Org. has been found liable $500 million for persistent fraud. He keeps on losing, and will lose again in November.

Keep dreaming!  The normal people of America are showing a different picture.

[watthong]

 

When the Apocalyptic 

 

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Off to the dustbin of history, cried Lev Davidovich. Until Ramon Mercader, at the behest of the utopia, cracked his skull with an ice ax.

Even now, as they are still fighting to crush the enemy, they are eating their own. Robspierre learned that lesson.

 

 meets the Epileptic 

 

5 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Ill see your imaginary quote and irrelevant Jew Haters and raise you Hamas, BLM,  SJP, Sandy Cortez, Louis Farrakhan (a real Hitler lover), Al Sharpton, the Iranian Mullahs, Rash Talib, Jeremiah Wright, Jamal Bowman. Policy makers.  Im not even going through your pantheon of dead heroes like Yassir Arafat. 

Your heroes and allies. Jew Haters and America Haters.  Not some powerless loons Like Spencer and Duke who I daresay are far more at home with the lot and party and philosophy that chants from the River to the Seas and lets our FELLOW AMERICAN HOSTAGES rot, rot, rot in the clutches of murderous antisemitic rapists and killers while doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to save them. 

Nothing. Fellow Americans. Oh right, they are Jews too, never mind. 

Thats your crowd. 

 

 Wow wow wow. More jizz and spit than a Foam Party in Silom.

 

 

Edited June 3 by watthong

[Walker88]

17 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Your talking points are very last election cycle. Please try to find new material.

 

It is the exact attitude, calling people who dont agree with you "goobers" and the like, that cost Hillary the election. "Basket of deplorables" anyone?

Nothing has changed. In fact, it has gotten even worse. Hillary was too kind.

 

Polls show more than half of his supporters think the 2020 election was 'stolen'.  That is idiocy. Some still think Hugo Chavez rose from the grave and programmed an Italian satellite to alter Dominion Voting Systems. That makes Flat Earthers sound reasonable. 23% of Americans believe in QAnon, and 100% of them are felon supporters. Since the felon polls at about 46%, that means more than half of his supporters are QAnon. They sell merchandise at all his rallies and wave Q flags. How do you reach people that naive, gullible and downright stupid? You cannot. You accept that they are always going to follow the felon.

 

More than half of MAGAs agree the 'hostages' (terrorists) who attacked the Capitol should be pardoned.  What do you call people who excuse attacking the very seat of democracy, beating and bear spraying police, sh!tting on the floor and rubbing it on the walls, seeking out the Vice President to hang him on gallows they had erected outside, and looking for the Speaker to likely kill her? Deplorables is way too polite. Treasonous scum is more appropriate.

 

The felon owns the QAnons. He owns the white supremacists like Richard Spencer and David Duke. He owns the antisemites like Nick Fuentes. He owns the people who want to assassinate jurors, prosecutors and judges. He owns those calling for civil war.

 

People like that cannot be reached. It doesn't matter if you call them the absolute most derogatory names possible. They are never going to understand American ideals and principles like democracy, rule of law, and equality under the law. They are "outraged" that a former President could be convicted of felonies, as if the US is based on monarchs and the Magna Carta, not the US Constitution. If they fail to understand the most basic principle the Founding Fathers intended---that ALL are equal under the law---they are hopeless.

 

The election will be won or lost based on the independents and undecideds. Calling scum scum isn't going to lose any votes. Calling them manna from heaven would not win their vote back.

[Presto]

20 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Nothing has changed. In fact, it has gotten even worse. Hillary was too kind.

 

Polls show more than half of his supporters think the 2020 election was 'stolen'.  That is idiocy. Some still think Hugo Chavez rose from the grave and programmed an Italian satellite to alter Dominion Voting Systems. That makes Flat Earthers sound reasonable. 23% of Americans believe in QAnon, and 100% of them are felon supporters. Since the felon polls at about 46%, that means more than half of his supporters are QAnon. They sell merchandise at all his rallies and wave Q flags. How do you reach people that naive, gullible and downright stupid? You cannot. You accept that they are always going to follow the felon.

 

More than half of MAGAs agree the 'hostages' (terrorists) who attacked the Capitol should be pardoned.  What do you call people who excuse attacking the very seat of democracy, beating and bear spraying police, sh!tting on the floor and rubbing it on the walls, seeking out the Vice President to hang him on gallows they had erected outside, and looking for the Speaker to likely kill her? Deplorables is way too polite. Treasonous scum is more appropriate.

 

The felon owns the QAnons. He owns the white supremacists like Richard Spencer and David Duke. He owns the antisemites like Nick Fuentes. He owns the people who want to assassinate jurors, prosecutors and judges. He owns those calling for civil war.

 

People like that cannot be reached. It doesn't matter if you call them the absolute most derogatory names possible. They are never going to understand American ideals and principles like democracy, rule of law, and equality under the law. They are "outraged" that a former President could be convicted of felonies, as if the US is based on monarchs and the Magna Carta, not the US Constitution. If they fail to understand the most basic principle the Founding Fathers intended---that ALL are equal under the law---they are hopeless.

 

The election will be won or lost based on the independents and undecideds. Calling scum scum isn't going to lose any votes. Calling them manna from heaven would not win their vote back.

Voter turnout will decide the election. Biden has already lost voters, I don't think many will come back just by his words, the endless referring to his achievements or new promises. They won't vote for Trump, they just won't vote for Biden.

I'm not sure what the effect will be of Trump being a convicted felon. Not much is my impression. His supporters will vote, and not just his supporters.

Edited June 3 by Presto

[watthong]

8 hours ago, G_Money said:

Take your pick or better yet, all three.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-voters-criticize-biden-pandering-support-shifts-trump-insulting

https://www.foxnews.com/media/trumps-surge-polls-black-voters-stuns-cnn-analyst-truly-historic
https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-aint-black-chicago-voters-blast-democrats-say-trump-better-fit-white-house
 

 

Looks like FoxNews is sending a mouthpiece to this forum.

Desperate time calls for desperate measure I guess.

 

23 hours ago, G_Money said:

Democrats/Progressives/Liberals are indeed the threat to democracy in America.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6354159042112

 

9 hours ago, G_Money said:

Appropriate for the biggest “Dog and Pony Show “ in modern American history.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/speaker-johnson-vows-fight-back-everything-our-arsenal-trump-verdict

 

Edited June 3 by watthong

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, G_Money said:

“Which Republicans are still attacking “

 

Extremely vague statement without substance.

 

You need to be specific.  Or what you post means absolutely nothing.

 

Surprised I even have to bring this up to another claimed advanced degreed scientist, jail house lawyer, climate “expert”  and accountant.

I may of left out a few more.

The Supreme Court has chipped away at the Voting Rights Act for 9 years. This case could be the next blow.

[Hanaguma]

33 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Nothing has changed. In fact, it has gotten even worse. Hillary was too kind.

 

Polls show more than half of his supporters think the 2020 election was 'stolen'.  That is idiocy. Some still think Hugo Chavez rose from the grave and programmed an Italian satellite to alter Dominion Voting Systems. That makes Flat Earthers sound reasonable. 23% of Americans believe in QAnon, and 100% of them are felon supporters. Since the felon polls at about 46%, that means more than half of his supporters are QAnon. They sell merchandise at all his rallies and wave Q flags. How do you reach people that naive, gullible and downright stupid? You cannot. You accept that they are always going to follow the felon.

 

More than half of MAGAs agree the 'hostages' (terrorists) who attacked the Capitol should be pardoned.  What do you call people who excuse attacking the very seat of democracy, beating and bear spraying police, sh!tting on the floor and rubbing it on the walls, seeking out the Vice President to hang him on gallows they had erected outside, and looking for the Speaker to likely kill her? Deplorables is way too polite. Treasonous scum is more appropriate.

 

The felon owns the QAnons. He owns the white supremacists like Richard Spencer and David Duke. He owns the antisemites like Nick Fuentes. He owns the people who want to assassinate jurors, prosecutors and judges. He owns those calling for civil war.

 

People like that cannot be reached. It doesn't matter if you call them the absolute most derogatory names possible. They are never going to understand American ideals and principles like democracy, rule of law, and equality under the law. They are "outraged" that a former President could be convicted of felonies, as if the US is based on monarchs and the Magna Carta, not the US Constitution. If they fail to understand the most basic principle the Founding Fathers intended---that ALL are equal under the law---they are hopeless.

 

The election will be won or lost based on the independents and undecideds. Calling scum scum isn't going to lose any votes. Calling them manna from heaven would not win their vote back.

Q Anon? Come on, man. Haven't heard about that for years. The rest of your sleep inducing diatribe is yet more regurgitation. With a few edits I could craft the same unhinged lunacy about the Democrats- calling Trump an illegitimate president, cheering on mobs who destroyed thousands of businesses and assaulted thousands of police in the 2020 riots, etc... but what good would it do?

 

It shows one of the most basic divides in American politics. Those on the right generally think those on the left are wrong. Those on the left generally think those on the right are evil. 

[Walker88]

20 minutes ago, Presto said:

Voter turnout will decide the election. Biden has already lost voters, I don't think many will come back just by his words, the endless referring to his achievements or new promises. They won't vote for Trump, they just won't vote for Biden.

I'm not sure what the effect will be of Trump being a convicted felon. Not much is my impression. His supporters will vote, and not just his supporters.

I think the combination of people coming to terms with "convicted felon", the chance he will be convicted of yet more, plus RFK,Jr, is going to swing the election in favor of Biden.

 

Biden won't lose any votes to RFK, Jr. He'll siphon off the felon. Biden will end with a plurality, rather than a majority, and for 4 years we'll have to listen to the far right saying "How is <50% a mandate?" (forgetting the felon never had a majority, except in the EC)

 

This is really the last shot the felon has of NOT dying behind bars. If he loses, the other indictments come to trial, and those are slam dunks, especially the stolen documents case. Prison will be unavoidable, and no matter the sentence, he will not survive it. Take away his control and his megaphone, he will die.

 

That ^ will make him especially desperate. Obviously he will show up at the Inauguration win or lose. He will also foment another insurrection when VP Harris is in the Capitol to certify the vote. I'm willing to bet he will even call for civil war.

 

He's attacking Biden, the DoJ, the jurors, Judge Merchan, etc. now, but as summer fades and his poll numbers show him losing supporters to RFK, Jr., he will direct most of his attacks against RFK, Jr.

 

If late October comes and all the polls really look like he'll lose, he'll start his civil war calls then. It's going to be an ugly Autumn in America.

[G_Money]

4 hours ago, Roo Island said:

Trump did say there were very fine people on both sides. He also condemned the violence.

 

I struggle to find very good people on the side of the white nationalists. Same group of nutters who attacked the Capitol.

 

https://time.com/charlottesville-white-nationalist-rally-clashes/

 

Check out the liberal nutters during the summer of love.  Nutters on the both sides.

 

If you can’t grasp that fact then your claimed Masters Degree from USC  is worthless.

Edited June 3 by G_Money

[Hanaguma]

53 minutes ago, stevenl said:

She was right.

She was wrong. And she lost. Just like Romney and his stupid remark about "47% of Americans ....". He lost too. 

[Presto]

15 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I think the combination of people coming to terms with "convicted felon", the chance he will be convicted of yet more, plus RFK,Jr, is going to swing the election in favor of Biden.

 

Biden won't lose any votes to RFK, Jr. He'll siphon off the felon. Biden will end with a plurality, rather than a majority, and for 4 years we'll have to listen to the far right saying "How is <50% a mandate?" (forgetting the felon never had a majority, except in the EC)

 

This is really the last shot the felon has of NOT dying behind bars. If he loses, the other indictments come to trial, and those are slam dunks, especially the stolen documents case. Prison will be unavoidable, and no matter the sentence, he will not survive it. Take away his control and his megaphone, he will die.

 

That ^ will make him especially desperate. Obviously he will show up at the Inauguration win or lose. He will also foment another insurrection when VP Harris is in the Capitol to certify the vote. I'm willing to bet he will even call for civil war.

 

He's attacking Biden, the DoJ, the jurors, Judge Merchan, etc. now, but as summer fades and his poll numbers show him losing supporters to RFK, Jr., he will direct most of his attacks against RFK, Jr.

 

If late October comes and all the polls really look like he'll lose, he'll start his civil war calls then. It's going to be an ugly Autumn in America.

That could be true. I still think voter turnout will be lower than in 2020. Despite all the talk about this being an essential election for American democracy. I think people are tired of that argument, however correct it might be.

Biden is an uninspiring candidate, basically forced upon Americans. I don't think they like that, just like they don't like the economic circumstances they're in. And Biden will lose votes due to his abhorrent Israel Gaza policies.

I'm not optimistic.

I also sense complacency from Biden's surrogates that appear on cable tv news 

Edited June 3 by Presto

[G_Money]

14 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The Supreme Court has chipped away at the Voting Rights Act for 9 years. This case could be the next blow.

Politico?  The faux news equivalent of Fox.

 

So tell us in your own words about this article?  Whose voting rights had been  

taken away during the past 9 years by the Supreme Court ???  

 

Mine hasn’t, yours hasn’t nor has any other US Citizen.

 

If I’m wrong, please inform us which US citizens has had their voting rights stripped by the Supreme Court?

 

All new news to me!