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Navigating the Chaos: Trump, Covid, and the Climate Crisis in America


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1 hour ago, Social Media said:

The corruption and blatant disregard for the rule of law exhibited by Trump and his allies have further strained the national conscience. Instances such as Justice Samuel Alito’s symbolic support for the January 6 insurrection and Justice Clarence Thomas’s refusal to recuse himself despite clear conflicts of interest highlight a judiciary entangled in political bias. The normalization of outrageous behavior, such as Trump soliciting campaign contributions from fossil fuel executives in exchange for policy favors, underscores a troubling shift in societal standards.

Translation: fighting back against the Democrat dictat.

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11 hours ago, Social Media said:

Amidst this political turmoil, the climate crisis looms as an ever-present threat. For those attuned to the realities of climate change, it represents a profound moral injury. The destruction of ecosystems, the extinction of species, and the pollution that kills millions annually are stark reminders of our collective failure to steward the planet. The psychological, social, and spiritual impact of witnessing such widespread environmental degradation is immense, contributing to a sense of helplessness and grief.

 

The world IS rapidly changing now .

Not only by the impacts of climate change , but on a social , humanitarian and political level as well .

Everything is connected ,every action provokes a reaction ... If this ' reaction ' is helpful or not , it leads the way to our future ...

No (re)action at all just lets the ongoing processus continue and does not help .

But whatever bla bla ... we know already that the climate change will not be stopped or reversed , the 1.5 degrees have been surpassed already , there have not been any significant efforts to stop or delay this , the consequences are clear and can not be ignored anymore .

 

 

11 hours ago, Social Media said:

In this chaotic new world, kindness and solidarity are essential. Understanding that millions are grappling with similar challenges can provide a sense of shared experience and resilience. By coming together to address the root causes of our distress, we can begin to heal the wounds of the past few years and build a more compassionate and connected future.

 

Well said .

" the root causes of our distress "

What needs to change is the System . Political , economical , social .

Thia present system only crates destruction and hatred . There is a more balanced and sustainable solution to this , but , to save our SPECIES , not our ethnicity , all people need to speak the same language ... will not happen without a catastrophic event that greatly reduces the world's population ...

 

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1 minute ago, JCauto said:

Luckily the majority of those people would have voted for Trump again seeing as they listened to his advice to the point that it actually killed them.

Complete conjecture....and who was it who initiated operation warp speed fast tracking the ever so safe and affective jabs ?

 

2 minutes ago, JCauto said:

It will be even more glorious this time around that they died for nothing

What a disgusting comment.

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11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From governments for sure, after their disastrous policies causes so much anger against them. I'll bet they want everyone to forget lockdowns, penalising people for not taking their experimental vaccines, and destroying lives and businesses.

 

Not only do they want/hope/think people will forget  but they also deny they where responsible for the disastrous polices  passing the buck   just following orders    and even worse than that is they say next time (disease X)  the policies should be even harsher and stricter !

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48 minutes ago, JCauto said:

Did you read the link? It was the CDC who published that

 

The link makes no mention of Donald Trump  let alone allege that he gave his supporters advice which killed them.

 

Again who initiated the operation warp speed that lead to the super fast rollout of

"safe and effectives" ?  is that the advise you mean ?

 

53 minutes ago, JCauto said:

caused the deaths of many people by spreading the virus to people who were trying to protect themself.

 

People trying to protect themself  should have "protected themself"  everyone else should have just got on with life.

https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282

 

A recent analysis of seroprevalence studies in this prevaccination era illustrates that the Infection Fatality Rate estimates in non-elderly populations were even lower than prior calculations suggested

At a global level, the prevaccination Infection Fatality Rate was 0.03% for people aged <60 years and 0.07% for people aged <70 years

For children aged 0–19 years, the Infection Fatality Rate was set at 0.0003%.

This implies that children are rarely harmed by the COVID-19 virus

 

 

55 minutes ago, JCauto said:

they stormed the Capitol on 6 Jan. They're no loss

Completely not relevant   and by the way the police let the protesters into the Capitol  and no police officers  or anyone else where killed by the gunless insurgent insurrectionists   Jeezzz

 

P.S  still no clues who planted the 2 pipe bombs on that day near to RNC ,DNC offices.

 

PPS  Biden is a war mongering  genocide supporter  who should also be prosecuted except that

due to his age and cognitive state the prosecutor won't...

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17 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From governments for sure, after their disastrous policies causes so much anger against them. I'll bet they want everyone to forget lockdowns, penalising people for not taking their experimental vaccines, and destroying lives and businesses.

Portugal did great. Why? They didn't make it political. Just about science

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4 hours ago, johng said:

 

The link makes no mention of Donald Trump  let alone allege that he gave his supporters advice which killed them.

 

Again who initiated the operation warp speed that lead to the super fast rollout of

"safe and effectives" ?  is that the advise you mean ?

 

 

People trying to protect themself  should have "protected themself"  everyone else should have just got on with life.

https://bmjpublichealth.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000282

 

A recent analysis of seroprevalence studies in this prevaccination era illustrates that the Infection Fatality Rate estimates in non-elderly populations were even lower than prior calculations suggested

At a global level, the prevaccination Infection Fatality Rate was 0.03% for people aged <60 years and 0.07% for people aged <70 years

For children aged 0–19 years, the Infection Fatality Rate was set at 0.0003%.

This implies that children are rarely harmed by the COVID-19 virus

 

 

Completely not relevant   and by the way the police let the protesters into the Capitol  and no police officers  or anyone else where killed by the gunless insurgent insurrectionists   Jeezzz

 

P.S  still no clues who planted the 2 pipe bombs on that day near to RNC ,DNC offices.

 

PPS  Biden is a war mongering  genocide supporter  who should also be prosecuted except that

due to his age and cognitive state the prosecutor won't...

 

The link was supporting the claim of excess deaths caused in the USA during the COVID-19 era. The statistics in your post refer to worldwide statistics, rather than USA statistics which was of course the topic of the thread.

 

I do appreciate that you posted a link to a genuine site with a proper scientific and professional basis. They didn't separate out the excess deaths by country in terms of numbers, but for example if you look at the graph in Figure 2, you can see that taking 2020-2021 the countries that exceeded the P-values are all former Eastern European countries with no G7 nor any G20 country unless you allow anyone who is an EU member to count. That's a sign of policy failure, when the country with the highest health expenditure per capita and at the center of so much medical technology and where many of the vaccines were developed that successfully saved the lives of tens of millions or more people doesn't beat a single country whom most Americans could point out on a map.

 

Not sure what that equates to in numbers of deaths and can't be bothered to do the math, but you get my drift.

 

"Police let the protesters into the Capitol" - lie, already disproven.

"No police officers or anyone else where (sic) killed by the gunless insurgent insurrectionists" - in the days and weeks after the riot, including one the day after who suffered two strokes, 5 police officers involved in the Jan 6 riots died. Gunless? Nope. Link below. Zip ties, arms caches, pipe bombs, this was a coup attempt. Over 450 already convicted, over 780 guilty pleas, your Dear Leader has pied pipered practically all of his dubious "best people" into the Justice system due to habitual law-breaking as taught to him at the foot of Roy Cohn. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/politics/jan-6-capitol-deaths.html

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/capitol-rioter-armed-gun-jan-6-found-guilty-charges-rcna80387

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/3-years-jan-6-numbers-1200-charged-460/story?id=106140326

 

The list of US Presidents who are war mongering is long and by no means exclusive to one side of the aisle or the other. The characterization of the Israel-Hamas conflict as "genocide" makes the term meaningless if true. Which of course is one of the goals of the massive misinformation campaign that you have fallen prey to. But this thread is not about that. 

 

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21 hours ago, JCauto said:

 

Well, you know who has forgotten it already? The 1.366 million people in the USA who are dead because of the botched response, the misinformation and the anti-vaxxers. Luckily the majority of those people would have voted for Trump again seeing as they listened to his advice to the point that it actually killed them. It will be even more glorious this time around that they died for nothing since the loss of those numbers will just add to the margin of victory by President Biden.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Never let a chance to blame Trump go by unused.

Do you guys ever read the stuff you post?

 

Ooh, there is a drought in Africa, it must be Trump's fault.

 

:passifier:

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14 hours ago, JCauto said:

The link was supporting the claim of excess deaths caused in the USA during the COVID-19 era. The statistics in your post refer to worldwide statistics, rather than USA statistics which was of course the topic of the thread.

What none of the posters on the anti Trump side point out is that Americans are apparently an extremely unhealthy population with an large number of obese people. IMO that is a recipe for a higher death toll than a less fat population.

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22 hours ago, johng said:

Complete conjecture....and who was it who initiated operation warp speed fast tracking the ever so safe and affective jabs ?

 

What a disgusting comment.

No conjecture. Republicans died more than Democrats from Covid after the vaccine was available, because a lower percentage of them got vaccinated.

 

To be honest, Trump did not directly tell them they should not get vaccinated. He told them to do what they want, while MAGA outlets were diffusing anti-vaccine propaganda.

 

Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a study says

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/people-in-republican-counties-have-higher-death-rates-than-those-in-democratic-counties/

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im 3x vaxxed Pfizer for all you lunatics that think science and medicine is deep state

 

sorry to disappoint you idiots.....but then again weak minds are easily misled(Maga) while rich white men profit of of you...

 

Stock up on tissues for November and still waiting on the Civil War you are all crying about..as usual all bark..no bite  WEAK!

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6 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What none of the posters on the anti Trump side point out is that Americans are apparently an extremely unhealthy population with a large number of obese people. IMO that is a recipe for a higher death toll than a less fat population.

 I read your post then just think of the refrigerated semi truck trailers parked in rows outside hospitals to handle the over flow of DEAD AMERICANS and you say it’s all an attack on your beloved orange felon…….i doubt you have the capacity to understand how deeply offensive that is you sir are one sad case…..

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Posted (edited)

Good timing on the  introduction  of another Trump hit piece, I think from

the usual suspects!

 

Trump gaining support from his dem conviction trial , while the Gop gets to reinvent A cover up news story that was suppressed 4 years ago by the bidens,msm,dems , intel , facebook, twitter  .

 

naseus:This is not world news. It's just a biased opinion piece from a confirmed anti Trump nit, called Solnit

 

 

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46 minutes ago, riclag said:

Good timing on the  introduction  of another Trump hit piece, I think from

the usual suspects!

 

Trump gaining support from his dem conviction trial , while the Gop gets to reinvent A cover up news story that was suppressed 4 years ago by the bidens,msm,dems , intel , facebook, twitter  .

 

naseus:This is not world news. It's just a biased opinion piece from a confirmed anti Trump nit, called Solnit

 

 

no cover up news story you're easy prey for propaganda

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