Classrooms in Louisiana Must All Display Ten Commandments

[Chomper Higgot]

On 6/22/2024 at 6:05 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

What???  It seems that "family values" is failing... and if you do not believe that... my question is... where do you learn of "family values"... what is the source???

When millions of ‘Christians’ support a guy who had sex with a pornstar while his wife was nursing their newborn child, I would agree that something about ‘family values’ has failed.

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It's actually crucial that we post the ten commandments in public schools. After all, we don't want first graders committing adultery, do we?

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It's actually crucial that we post the ten commandments in public schools. After all, we don't want first graders committing adultery, do we?

Who knows? Aren't children allowed to marry in backwards bible belt deep south states such as Lousiaina? 

[Jingthing]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

When millions of ‘Christians’ support a guy who had sex with a pornstar while his wife was nursing their newborn child, I would agree that something about ‘family values’ has failed.

How many of the ten commandments has the convicted felon and adjudicated rapist NOT broken?

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Just now, Jingthing said:

Who knows? Aren't children allowed to marry in backwards bible belt deep south states such as Lousiaina? 

So the lesson for these children is get married before you play doctor?

[Jingthing]

Another option (credit to Colbert if I recall correctly) is to post a picture of Trump's angry mug shot with the words -- Don't Be Like Him!

[riclag]

6 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

Sure -- I saw the movie (1956 by Cecil B. DeMille)

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt.  They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 32&version=NIV

 

Believe what you will but those truths are mostly self evident!

 

Dont steal

Dont cheat

Dont kill

Evil  has  spit in the face of these truths ! Society has lost its way in 

many cultures and America

methinks

Edited Sunday at 08:20 AM by riclag

[Jingthing]

The state should be separate from religion. Period. 

[candide]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt.  They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 32&version=NIV

 

Believe what you will but those truths are mostly self evident!

 

Dont steal

Dont cheat

Dont kill

Evil  has  spit in the face of these truths ! Society has lost its way in 

many cultures and America

methinks

Talking about fake idols.... 😀

[EVENKEEL]

Funny world we live in now where a piece of paper with a few words of wisdom is bad but having Drag Queens doing story hour is a positive thing.

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2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny world we live in now where a piece of paper with a few words of wisdom is bad but having Drag Queens doing story hour is a positive thing.

Funny world where having Drag Queens doing story hour is a negative to some people, but telling little kids not to have sex outside of marriage is a positive thing to them. And also not to covet your neighbor's wife.

Edited Sunday at 12:06 PM by placeholder

[Roo Island]

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny world we live in now where a piece of paper with a few words of wisdom is bad but having Drag Queens doing story hour is a positive thing.

Separation of church and state is a good thing. Especially considering all the terrible things done in the name of religion.

 

Who said drag queens doing story hour is a positive thing? Faux News?

[Tug]

On 6/20/2024 at 8:12 PM, Hanaguma said:

Reallly? When did all this happen? Wow, the governor of Louisiana has a really checkered past if all this is true...

 

By the way, the KKK is a relic of history. You could take every KKK member in the US and they wouldn't even fill up a minor league baseball stadium. A spent force, and thank god for it. 

Amazing that a foreigner would have such deep insight into America …all sarcasm aside you are unfortunately incorrect there’s still a lot of those garbage people about…as far as this particular piece of legislation it’s a dog whistle they know it won’t fly but it is a useful tool to divide and cause rancor it’s what the GOP has devolved into under trump sad 😞 

[Roo Island]

On 6/21/2024 at 4:12 AM, Hanaguma said:

Reallly? When did all this happen? Wow, the governor of Louisiana has a really checkered past if all this is true...

 

By the way, the KKK is a relic of history. You could take every KKK member in the US and they wouldn't even fill up a minor league baseball stadium. A spent force, and thank god for it. 

Hardly a relic. Shows that you know very little about the US.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/missouri-gop-moves-toss-honorary-member-ku-klux-klan-governors-race-rcna141237

 

Missouri GOP moves to toss 'honorary' member of Ku Klux Klan from governor's race

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/176154/republicans-nominate-steve-scalise-speaker-david-duke-without-baggage

 

Republicans Pick Man Who Compared Himself to David Duke as Next House Speaker

 

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/ghosts-of-the-kkk-still-haunt-american-politics/

 

Ghosts of the KKK still haunt American politics

 

[Skipalongcassidy]

19 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

When millions of ‘Christians’ support a guy who had sex with a pornstar while his wife was nursing their newborn child, I would agree that something about ‘family values’ has failed.

Or a supposedly catholic president who fondles and sniffs little girls while his son is getting high on coke and committing a felony... I agree 100%

[pomchop]

12 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny world we live in now where a piece of paper with a few words of wisdom is bad but having Drag Queens doing story hour is a positive thing.

So if a muslim wanted a "few words of wisdom" posted in the La schools I am sure that would be ok.

 

There are many very valid and strong reasons why the men who wrote the US constitution were very clear that the church and the state should be separate.  The ten commandments are very much part of the "church" and a public funded school is very much part of the "state".

 

Since La public schools are very near the bottom of all state schools they might want to spend a bit more time teaching the kids their a b c's and some math rather than trying to brainwash them with their idea of "wisdom". 

 

Maybe the good gov can also explain to all the kids how the former president who has broken just about every one of the "commandments" is still held up as a righteous jesus like man in many evangelical churches and governors  especially in the southern states like La.
 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

So if a muslim wanted a "few words of wisdom" posted in the La schools I am sure that would be ok.

 

There are many very valid and strong reasons why the men who wrote the US constitution were very clear that the church and the state should be separate.  The ten commandments are very much part of the "church" and a public funded school is very much part of the "state".

 

Since La public schools are very near the bottom of all state schools they might want to spend a bit more time teaching the kids their a b c's and some math rather than trying to brainwash them with their idea of "wisdom". 

 

Maybe the good gov can also explain to all the kids how the former president who has broken just about every one of the "commandments" is still held up as a righteous jesus like man in many evangelical churches and governors  especially in the southern states like La.
 

Oh boy that would get them bleating and blubbering 😭 

[rocketboy2]

Hey, Teacher.

Leave them kids alone.

[YaiJung]

Not a surprise this comes out of Louisiana, one of the most <deleted> up backwards states, full of inbred christians.  Not hard to see what states will follow.  Anybody who has been around America much will know the IQ level drops and meanness levels spike as you go south/southeast.  I'm sure they will be all for this down in smokey holler if they can pull themselves away from chasing cousins. 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said:

Or a supposedly catholic president who fondles and sniffs little girls while his son is getting high on coke and committing a felony... I agree 100%

There’s money to be made from writing fiction, though I don’t see an audience for the particular genre in which you seem to specialize.

[pomchop]

On 6/21/2024 at 3:41 AM, tonbridgebrit said:

To most of the people putting their posts on this topic.
You ignore or forget the point that America is mainly a Christian nation. Yes, in most places in America, Jesus is Lord.

Now, America is also a democracy. The democratic vote counts. And if lots of Americans want the Christian message put up in public places, well, surely, it will be done ?

And if you don't like it, and if you're part of a minority, or you can't be bothered to vote, well, you've simply got to tolerate the rules and laws drafted in democratically.

So heck lets get right to it and make slavery legal again and put all the females in nice  long black dresses and no more school, no more driving, for them.

 

  Lets also imprison or get rid of all the "weirdos" that live lives that the majority doesn't like...lets also get rid of any and all media that reports things we don't like....and all those books (that we have never read) that we think does not support our version of truth will look very nice in a bon fire.  Just take a vote and implement on a state by state basis sort of like abortion is going.  Tear up that constitution and 250 years of laws.  Majority rules.  Or I guess you could just move to some middle east dicatorship and see how that works out.

 

And PS, if jesus is lord then does that mean that jesus and his dad are the same person as I was under the impression that god was lord...it's all very confusing trying to keep up with all the fairy tales and the various gods, lords, saviors, cults.

[pomchop]

20 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s money to be made from writing fiction, though I don’t see an audience for the particular genre in which you seem to specialize.

 

1 minute ago, pomchop said:

So heck lets get right to it and make slavery legal again and put all the females in nice  long black dresses and no more school, no more driving, for them.

 

  Lets also imprison or get rid of all the "weirdos" that live lives that the majority doesn't like...lets also get rid of any and all media that reports things we don't like....and all those books (that we have never read) that we think does not support our version of truth will look very nice in a bon fire.  Just take a vote and implement on a state by state basis sort of like abortion is going.  Tear up that constitution and 250 years of laws.  Majority rules.  Or I guess you could just move to some middle east dicatorship and see how that works out. 

 

And don't forget that in our current democracy at least for POTUS the person that gets the most votes does not always win.  Ask Hillary, Gore, and many more about that.

 

And PS, if jesus is lord then does that mean that jesus and his dad are the same person as I was under the impression that god was lord...it's all very confusing trying to keep up with all the fairy tales and the various gods, lords, saviors, cults.

 

[Paul Catton]

On July 11, 1955, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed H.R. 619 – a bill that required the inscription, “In God We Trust,” to appear on all paper and coin currency – into law. When the resolution was first introduced in the House by Representative Charles E. Bennett of Florida, he stated, “Nothing can be more certain than that our country was founded in a spiritual atmosphere and with a firm trust in God,”  further adding that “While the sentiment of trust in God is universal and timeless, these particular four words ‘In God We Trust’ are indigenous to our country.”

 

Same-same, but different.

 

[Wrwest]

On 6/21/2024 at 10:12 AM, Hanaguma said:

Reallly? When did all this happen? Wow, the governor of Louisiana has a really checkered past if all this is true...

 

By the way, the KKK is a relic of history. You could take every KKK member in the US and they wouldn't even fill up a minor league baseball stadium. A spent force, and thank god for it. 

Yes, do keep in mind my background oriented to the study of history and Santayana's adminishion for those who forget history. The history of the USA Southern, "Bible Belt" states do have a checkered past.

[Wrwest]

On 6/22/2024 at 6:11 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

Another view would be to allow the government of each group of people (ie individual state citizens) to be exposed to guidelines (10 commandments) without the need to force feed those guidelines... but the separatists do not want exposer as it MAY cause others to have opinions different to theirs.

There are many venues to be exposed to the world of ideas. Education is great for that but government public schools, attendance required, are not the appropriate venue. Separation of Church and State ... In the USA, Puritans came to form their society in Massachusetts, Quakers went to Pennsylvania, Catholics to Maryland and the Church of England held sway in Virginia (where all residents were taxed for church support) ... I add Jews were present from colonial times. On this matter, only way to form one country was to remember the past religious fighting and declare a personal right to belief not to have any one belief imposed. If a belief, philosophy of government has merit it brings supporters ... if it does not attract supporters there is reason to question the validity of the belief/system.

[Hanaguma]

4 hours ago, YaiJung said:

Not a surprise this comes out of Louisiana, one of the most <deleted> up backwards states, full of inbred christians.  Not hard to see what states will follow.  Anybody who has been around America much will know the IQ level drops and meanness levels spike as you go south/southeast.  I'm sure they will be all for this down in smokey holler if they can pull themselves away from chasing cousins. 

Also the state with the second highest percentage of blacks in the population. Are you saying that blacks are inbred and mean and low IQ? That's rather racist...

[riclag]

19 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Funny world we live in now where a piece of paper with a few words of wisdom is bad but having Drag Queens doing story hour is a positive thing.

Brilliantly crafted analysis 

[riclag]

58 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Also the state with the second highest percentage of blacks in the population. Are you saying that blacks are inbred and mean and low IQ? That's rather racist...

Ten Commandments would fit right in as a reminder !

 

Thug crime! ( disregard the lefts climate narrative for now).

 

1. Louisiana is in fourth place, with a combined total crime rate of 3,389 per 100,000 – 67% higher than the national average.
2. https://www.ktalnews.com/our_environment/why-louisiana-consistently-ranked-most-dangerous-and-is-climate-change-to-blame/

 

Why is Louisiana consistently ranked ‘most dangerous,’ and is climate change to blame?

is Louisiana consistently ranked ‘most dangerous,’ and is climate change to blame?

 

[JCauto]

On 6/23/2024 at 5:37 AM, Skipalongcassidy said:

I will or probably have read them... so... deal.

 

Okay, let's start with Mark Twain, whom you will of course know was actually Samuel Clemens. I was fortunate to be given a set of his entire writings when I was small, soon he became my touchstone for humor. Another whom I was gifted a complete set of works was Alexander Solzhenitsyn. If I were to single out one of his books, it would probably be a toss-up between The Gulag Archipelago and Cancer Ward. I was a big fan of 20th Century American fiction, probably my favourite writer from that period would have been John Dos Passos and his trilogies. Also really liked Langston Hughes, Joseph Conrad and John Steinbeck. But of course, I'm a Leftie, so you probably didn't like most of those. Others I'd mention include Philip Roth, Toni Morrison, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, John Irving. A Confederacy of Dunces was a brilliant book, such a pity the author killed himself after having it rejected initially, he could have been incredible (John Kennedy Toole). Anthony Burgess, Dom DeLillo and Umberto Eco are others I liked, along with Joan Didion. My pick for "Just For Fun" reading would be George Macdonald Fraser's Flashman series, I've loved every single one of those and he remains an inspiration to this day. Also liked his other books. That's one that you probably would have in common and enjoyed, if not you should get yourself to a bookstore and start.

 

How's that for Bible Alternatives? Every one of them is much better written and far far far more entertaining and enlightening that that book of <deleted>.

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8 hours ago, Paul Catton said:

On July 11, 1955, President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed H.R. 619 – a bill that required the inscription, “In God We Trust,” to appear on all paper and coin currency – into law. When the resolution was first introduced in the House by Representative Charles E. Bennett of Florida, he stated, “Nothing can be more certain than that our country was founded in a spiritual atmosphere and with a firm trust in God,”  further adding that “While the sentiment of trust in God is universal and timeless, these particular four words ‘In God We Trust’ are indigenous to our country.”

 

Same-same, but different.

 

This was during the Cold War era when people were looking for reds under the beds. In fact,  In God We Trust was first adopted as some kind of motto by Union troops during the Civil War when both sides were claiming that God was on their side. (Actually, the South may have had a better point, since not only did the Bible not condemn slavery, but St. Paul of the New Testament actually said "Slave obey your masters.") There was a movement after the Civil War to put a preamble in the Constitution proclaiming the God was the source of all governmental authority. Fortunately, it failed. And as rationality returned, the motto was removed from American coinage. Anyway, during wars, whether hot or cold, when emotionalism runs hot, are generally favorable for the erosion of civil liberties.