Presidential debate is over, have your opinions changed ? What was your take ?

[susanlea]

9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

far-left liberal and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee. I

Exactly why America is a mess.

[WDSmart]

9 minutes ago, proton said:

16 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I played golf this morning, so I missed the live debate. I did get home in time to see a replay of the last half. 

I was very disappointed with President Biden's demeanour during the debate. He seemed to be just what everyone feared he'd be - too old to be the next president. 

 

Trump was just as I expected - lie after lie after lie. He's too narcissistic and dishonest to be the next president.

 

I'm a far-left liberal and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee. I hope the Democrats think more about this and can come up with a nominee for whom I can be more confident. Pete Buttigieg would be my choice, but he has an obvious trait that would be very difficult for many US voters to accept. So, just who could replace Biden is definitely up in the air, but I wholeheartedly believe it must be considered carefully. 

 

 

what do you think Trump lied about?

Many, many things. CNN just went through a list of about 20 of them. I tried to find a link online, but it's too early for that. Just tune into any news channel and I'm sure they'll be talking about them.

[WDSmart]

9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

18 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

far-left liberal and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee. I

Exactly why America is a mess.

@susanlealiberal Why do you say that? Why would America (USA) be in a mess because I am a far-left liberabl and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee? 

[susanlea]

Just now, WDSmart said:

@susanlealiberal Why do you say that? Why would America (USA) be in a mess because I am a far-left liberabl and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee? 

Non thinking voters produce awful candidates like Biden. If 90% of voters were swinging voters you would never get a disaster like Biden. 

[Isaan sailor]

Something came out of Biden’s right ear at one point.  Anyway it didn’t seem to help him one way or the other…

[HappyExpat57]

9 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

@susanlealiberal Why do you say that? Why would America (USA) be in a mess because I am a far-left liberabl and intend to vote for the Democrat nominee? 

Trolling post, best to ignore. 

[riclag]

56 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

 Actually, if JFK jumped in, I think Trump should be worried, but that is extremely unlikely. Biden was totally awful.

Rfk’s jr , VP pick is A good match for

the Liberal Democrat moderates

 

 

[HappyExpat57]

2 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Something came out of Biden’s right ear at one point.  Anyway it didn’t seem to help him one way or the other…

Lot of pushback from claims he was wearing an earpiece, but it sure as hell LOOKED like he was. Not like the Dems have ever cheated, like getting Hillary the questions to a debate and NOT giving them to Bernie.

[WDSmart]

9 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Non thinking voters produce awful candidates like Biden. If 90% of voters were swinging voters you would never get a disaster like Biden. 

My vote will not actually be FOR someone but AGAINST Trump. That's why I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate. In the US, there are only two parties to choose from in the presidential election. Other parties do have some chance in lower-level, more regional elections.

[susanlea]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

My vote will not actually be FOR someone but AGAINST Trump. That's why I will vote for whomever the Democrats nominate. In the US, there are only two parties to choose from in the presidential election. Other parties do have some chance in lower-level, more regional elections.

Which is why America is a mess. Trump did well, Biden is terrible. 

[susanlea]

You can vote Kennedy. Don't give me this 2 party excuse. Think before you vote.

[WDSmart]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Rfk’s jr , VP pick is A good match for

the Liberal Democrat moderates

 

 

RFK Jr is not a liberal. IMO, he's got some screws loose. Anyway, he won't do anything but pull some votes from both parties. 

[G_Money]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Tide has turned , methinks

CNN flash poll shows Trump debate winner by 2-to-1 margin

 

By CNN of all people.  What will the anti- Fox people do now.

 

That being said, it’s not over until it’s over.

 

I’ve said it before and it’s worth repeating.  NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.  All 81 million of them.

[WDSmart]

1 minute ago, susanlea said:

Which is why America is a mess. Trump did well, Biden is terrible. 

Well, if that's what you think, I'll ignore you from now on... 

[susanlea]

Just now, WDSmart said:

Well, if that's what you think, I'll ignore you from now on... 

That's why America is a mess. 

[proton]

19 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Many, many things. CNN just went through a list of about 20 of them. I tried to find a link online, but it's too early for that. Just tune into any news channel and I'm sure they'll be talking about them.

 

Maybe CNN are the liars? would not be the first time

[riclag]

46 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

I'm seriously wondering if I even want to bother this year.

 

It's a choice between Dem poo and Rep poo.

Good !
make sure you rip up your ballot 

and throw it in the trash!

 

One down

 

 

methinks

[susanlea]

4 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

RFK Jr is not a liberal. IMO, he's got some screws loose. Anyway, he won't do anything but pull some votes from both parties. 

Which liberals in 2024 are normal? Not many. All woke or climate crazy.

[Chivas]

Both those fools need to be pulled

[newbee2022]

2 dead men walking. 😇What do you expect? 😳

You have the choice between granddaddy and an erratic granddaddy.😵‍💫

 

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, susanlea said:

So Putin invaded Norway? People are all homeless now? Don't think so. Turn off the tv, turn off the internet. Suddenly it doesn't affect you.

Norway has a long, vulnerable and difficult to defend border with Russia. Putin's aggressive expansionism will be a very real concern. The main pillar of their defence is the NATO alliance, an alliance which Trump has made it clear he intends to dismantle, or at least hamstring.

 

So Trump and his campaign matters to a Norwegian, as it does to most Europeans. The probable rapid descent of the USA into an autocratic isolationist state which cannot be relied upon as an ally will mean a lot of things will have to be rethought. That is why this campaign matters to many countries and people outside the USA.

 

Now Americans may (will) argue that their European allies have accepted the American defence umbrella, a defensive umbrella which has, for the last 75 years underpinned defence of Europe. But remember, Europe has played a part by contributing, troops, blood and treasure, and (at times) costly political support to American foreign policy throughout that period. Trump will radically change that American foreign policy, Americas allies will have to reposition themselves, and may themselves have to move away from America, because they simply do not know what it (America)will do.

 

If you lose your European allies, how, who, is going to fuel, victual, repair and base your vast air and naval forces?

 

Edited June 28 by herfiehandbag

[TedG]

Fifty one former intelligence sighed a letter stating that Joe Biden won last night.  

[connda]

Ouch! 

Now maybe Biden will do the DNC a favor and drop out.  After this disaster there is no way he'll be the DNC nominee after the convention.

 

Source:
Polymarket(dot)com

Edited June 28 by connda

[WDSmart]

4 minutes ago, susanlea said:

Which liberals in 2024 are normal? Not many. All woke or climate crazy.

I am a far-left liberal, not a "normal" liberal. I am "woke" and "climate crazy." In fact, I wrote a book about climate change four years ago. The Icarus Syndrome (books2read.com)

[Joebuzzz]

7 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

So the debate went well. What does everybidy else think? Biden is as sharp as a tack.

Comedy isn't your strong suit. Don't quit your day job.

[HappyExpat57]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

Good !
make sure you rip up your ballot 

and throw it in the trash!

 

One down

 

 

methinks

Thanks, you just helped me build the resolve to vote for Joe. I usually hold my nose, this year I will have to wear a full face gas mask when I pull that digital lever.

 

You don't thinks, you regurgitates.

[susanlea]

3 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I am a far-left liberal, not a "normal" liberal. I am "woke" and "climate crazy." In fact, I wrote a book about climate change four years ago. The Icarus Syndrome (books2read.com)

Sorry I responded.

[HappyExpat57]

3 minutes ago, connda said:

Ouch! 

Now maybe Biden will do the DNC a favor and drop out.  After this disaster there is no way he'll be the DNC nominee after the convention.

 

https://polymarket.com/elections

His effing hubris won't let him.

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Both those fools need to be pulled

 

14 minutes ago, G_Money said:

By CNN of all people.  What will the anti- Fox people do now.

 

That being said, it’s not over until it’s over.

 

I’ve said it before and it’s worth repeating.  NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.  All 81 million of them.

biden went to far left Newsom is on the far left coast and is a climate freak!

 

 

Joe Manchin just left the dem party

and is Independent! Heres who will 

jump in the mix .

 

biden destroyed the Constitutional Republic!

 

Methinks 

 

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/stuart-varney-victor-davis-hanson-bidens-destructive-agenda

[proton]

Waiting for the mop headed black lezzie to put a spin on this for the white house