Presidential debate is over, have your opinions changed ? What was your take ?

[Cryingdick]

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The people checking out Trump were also disappointed by some of the crazy stuff he said.

 

We'll see how the polling reacts to Biden's bad night.

 

Disappointed and despondent as similar as they seem are completely different. 

[Cryingdick]

5 minutes ago, susanlea said:

He is mentally gone.

 

Are you trying to say that Elvis has left the building? These days i am not so sharp myself  although in remember the days i was with elvis when john walked in to the bar. His uncle had just been eaten by cannibals and he had just purchased a new 18 wheeler. John's where are you John come up on stage.

anyway whatev... mic cut.

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[expat_4_life]

50 minutes ago, Taboo2 said:

If China, Iran and North Korea were smart, they would make their move now!  Putin is smart, he did....and is bleeding our arms supplies...with China and NK and Iran making a move....someone will have to light a candle!

 

Reactions coming in from around the world ...

 

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[susanlea]

Biden flu claim is funny given it's summer. Hard to get flus in summer. He never coughed like he was sick.

[TroubleandGrumpy]

What the debate and how people have reacted afterwards, has yet again showed me is that those supporting the Dems are truly 'committed' to their cause. Despite all the negatives of the last 4 years, and Biden being obviously incompetent as a POTUS, and that he is also incapable of coherent thoughts and debate, the left will still support their man as they run like lemmings over the political cliff 😆

 

As with many right wingers, I grew up one day and realised my 'University attitude' to life and politics, was totally wrong and completely irrational. As they said - if you vote right when young, you have a hard heart, but if you vote left when mature, then you have a soft head.  There are a lot of soft-headed people these days and they are incapable of rational thinking - and those showing support for Biden are clearly 'lost'.

 

Congrats to those that know and have said Biden should go - you may be left wing, but you have a rational mind - it is obvious Biden is not going to be elected.  The best thing you can do is hold back (dont vote) and wait for the inevitable 'righting of the ship' as those in control of the Dems (Clintons, Pelosi, etc.) are removed from leadership and the Party takes a new direction, after the massive defeat that is coming their way.  That lady who left the Dems said it best - she said she is leaving because the Dem Party has been taken over by radical far-left activists and is being manipulated by those who want power and whose supporters profit from wars. 

[worgeordie]

Joe definitely was not" jacked up " , and Trump was saying nothing but lies ...

 

 

regards worgeordie

[Jingthing]

36 minutes ago, mokwit said:

They seem to be normal ordinary people with mainstream views to me, what am I missing?

Everything.

[retarius]

No I always thought Biden was a demented criminal loser and now I am sure of it. If the Dems pick someone decent and clean, someone anti-war with the moral compass that everyone in Washington lacks (someone like Tulsi) then I will vote for her. If it is Biden, Harris, Killary, the vile Newsom or any other Democrat loser, I'll vote for Trump. 

[retarius]

2 hours ago, stoner said:

 

is it though ? it has been clear for quite some time about biden. yet the media and the entire party stood behind it all and allowed it to happen. you had so many voices on here adamant about his mental health etc. 

 

these people are supposedly smart well educated. donors. industrialists. politicians. money men. the list goes on. people that went to the best schools out there. worked at the highest positions of corporations and government. all of these people helped prop up a system that allowed it to get to this point. why ? 

 

conspiracy or just the brutally corrupt system. 

Yes, the folks running Biden for the past 3 1/2 years need to be indicted.

[novacova]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

he had a very bad night.

Victim of right wing propaganda?

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, novacova said:

Victim of right wing propaganda?

 

Other than that he was as sharp as a tack. 

[jas007]

I wasn’t planning on watching the debate, but since I was in the hospital in Bangkok and didn’t really have anything else to do, I figured “why not?” The hospital’s cable didn’t include CNN, but the debate was simulcast on another channel.

 

Anyway, my take: the moderators seemed decent and unbiased, for a change.  Has CNN turned over a new leaf?  As for the candidates?  Trump was just being Trump, but he seemed more measured and subdued than usual.  Biden did better than I thought he would, although that’s not saying much.  Occasionally, he could actually finish a sentence. Maybe even two sentences back to back!  Nobody watching the debate could reasonably conclude that Biden was fit for the job.  And yet there he was, up on stage, presumably a candidate for the presidency.  The “Leader of the free world.”  What could the Democrats be thinking?  Over three hundred million people in America, and this is the best they could come up with? 
 

The really shouldn’t be doing this to Joe.  Some would call it “elder abuse.” 

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The people checking out Trump were also disappointed by some of the crazy stuff he said.

 

We'll see how the polling reacts to Biden's bad night.

Trump disappointing? Say it ain't so!

 

Seriously, Trump was classic Trump on the night, blathering on about loads of stuff except on the question. Trump gold! That's why his base loves him- he doesn't play by Washington rules, just charges head first through them and leaves his opponents wondering "what the heck just happened"?

 

Let's face it, when someone like Biden is actually a candidate for leader of the free world- say that again "leader of the free world, the inmates must have taken over the asylum, and in that case, the best response is to put a clown up for the top job, ergo Trump.

[thaibeachlovers]

8 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I wasn’t planning on watching the debate, but since I was in the hospital in Bangkok and didn’t really have anything else to do, I figured “why not?” The hospital’s cable didn’t include CNN, but the debate was simulcast on another channel.

 

Anyway, my take: the moderators seemed decent and unbiased, for a change.  Has CNN turned over a new leaf?  As for the candidates?  Trump was just being Trump, but he seemed more measured and subdued than usual.  Biden did better than I thought he would, although that’s not saying much.  Occasionally, he could actually finish a sentence. Maybe even two sentences back to back!  Nobody watching the debate could reasonably conclude that Biden was fit for the job.  And yet there he was, up on stage, presumably a candidate for the presidency.  The “Leader of the free world.”  What could the Democrats be thinking?  Over three hundred million people in America, and this is the best they could come up with? 
 

The really shouldn’t be doing this to Joe.  Some would call it “elder abuse.” 

The most interesting part of the debate on CNN was the after analysis, when all the Dem guys were agreeing that Biden was toast, and has to go. Say that again "the DEMOCRAT guys were saying that Biden has to go" WOW. Never thought I'd hear that on CNN, the home of Biden lovers, or did I get that wrong and it's the home of Trump haters? I don't remember them actually saying much if anything about Trump. It was all about Biden. It must hurt when one comes prepared to gloat how Biden owned Trump and he visibly fell apart right in front of them.

 

Such is life.

[expat_4_life]

6 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I wasn’t planning on watching the debate, but since I was in the hospital in Bangkok and didn’t really have anything else to do, I figured “why not?” The hospital’s cable didn’t include CNN, but the debate was simulcast on another channel.

 

Anyway, my take: the moderators seemed decent and unbiased, for a change.  Has CNN turned over a new leaf?  As for the candidates?  Trump was just being Trump, but he seemed more measured and subdued than usual.  Biden did better than I thought he would, although that’s not saying much.  Occasionally, he could actually finish a sentence. Maybe even two sentences back to back!  Nobody watching the debate could reasonably conclude that Biden was fit for the job.  And yet there he was, up on stage, presumably a candidate for the presidency.  The “Leader of the free world.”  What could the Democrats be thinking?  Over three hundred million people in America, and this is the best they could come up with? 
 

The really shouldn’t be doing this to Joe.  Some would call it “elder abuse.” 

 

What's more disturbing is that the US media is constantly bombarding us with the "our democracy" narrative.  How it's under threat or about to be destroyed if you don't go along with the "narrative" of the day.  Wars, never mind, they are dictators.  Everyone we don't like is an authoritarian, dictator, anti-democratic or whatever, sanction them.

Meanwhile - this is the "public face" of our democracy laid bare for governments all over the world to see.  I don't say this with any glee or expectation of a short-term fix.

Sad day for the USA.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

I've been wondering the same thing. I got a hunch they purposely didn't juice up Joe properly on purpose so he would fail at the debate.

 

I actually feel a bit bad for him, a bit.

I said that a while back. I suggested they made him do it to try and make him withdraw after failing ( they must know how bad he is now, and don't want to lose the election ). Doesn't appear to have worked though.

[Danderman123]

Since polling this early in the campaign is mostly name recognition, talking about Biden a lot might give him a bump in the polls.

 

The Trump trolls here may be helping Biden.

[Isaan sailor]

Dems should ditch Biden, nominate RFK Jr.  He could win.

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I said that a while back. I suggested they made him do it to try and make him withdraw after failing ( they must know how bad he is now, and don't want to lose the election ). Doesn't appear to have worked though.

 

It's possible to judge Joe's decline through video of the progress of his falls. Initially, he was able to pull himself up and go on up stairs. But by the time you get to the last major public fall, at the Air Force Academy graduation, he needs help. He can't stand up on his own anymore. And yesterday, he couldn't even walk off the stage without someone holding his hand.

[jas007]

1 minute ago, Isaan sailor said:

Dems should ditch Biden, nominate RFK Jr.  He could win.

 Of course RFK Jr. could win.  But the Democrats won’t touch him.  They’ve gone out of their way to paint him as a nutcase. An anti-vaxer. A conspiracy theorist. They’ve repeatedly denied him Secret Service protection, and they did everything they could to keep him out of last night’s debate. 
 

He won’t follow “the narrative.”

[Maitdjai]

Drop out collection.

https://www.facebook.com/100000155920645/videos/365366816218992

[Skeptic7]

OK time to eat my words. When I'm wrong, no problem admitting it. Certainly doesn't happen very often❗😀

 

I said Biden would clean Trump's clock and I was dead wrong. That confessed...Trump wasn't any better. Lies, avoidance, no substance nor intelligence, full of brash BS, as always. It's a major embarrassment and failure to the USA that these 2 are all both parties can muster. 🤮

[Yagoda]

The new world is coming, get ready.

 

Deportations

2 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

OK time to eat my words. When I'm wrong, no problem admitting it. Certainly doesn't happen very often❗😀

 

I said Biden would clean Trump's clock and I was dead wrong. That confessed...Trump wasn't any better. Lies, avoidance, no substance nor intelligence, full of brash BS, as always. It's a major embarrassment and failure to the USA that these 2 are all both parties can muster. 🤮

What lies did Trump tell?

[Hanaguma]

3 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

OK time to eat my words. When I'm wrong, no problem admitting it. Certainly doesn't happen very often❗😀

 

I said Biden would clean Trump's clock and I was dead wrong. That confessed...Trump wasn't any better. Lies, avoidance, no substance nor intelligence, full of brash BS, as always. It's a major embarrassment and failure to the USA that these 2 are all both parties can muster. 🤮

Trump is a classic BS artist. He revels in using superlatives- everything is the best, worst, biggest, etc. But it's not really lying if he believes it. Plus he was remarkably restrained, perhaps the format did that to him, perhaps he finally took some good advice from his team and decided to STFU when his opponent was making a mistake.  No need to bluster or interrupt in that case.

 

Like it or not, he hit the hot button topics that Americans care about- immigration, inflation, housing.  And Biden was, well, quite sad really. 

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

 He revels in using superlatives- everything is the best, worst, biggest, etc.

Thats 1980s NYC developer language. He has been like that since he first burst onto the scene back then and Democratic politicians lined up to suck off his turgid pen.

 

Those of us who are old enough to remember the social and cultural milieu that Trump emerged from understand him.

[stoner]

5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Since polling this early in the campaign is mostly name recognition, talking about Biden a lot might give him a bump in the polls.

 

The Trump trolls here may be helping Biden.

 

must be awfully cold out there alone ? good on your for sticking to it though. almost everyone has abandoned ship but here you are violin and all. 

 

please tell me you still don't think biden will win the election ? i take you for a much smarter man than that. 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

The new world is coming, get ready.

 

Deportations

What lies did Trump tell?

Better question, what few things out of his smirking smug narcissistic burger hole were NOT lies!?

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

OK time to eat my words. When I'm wrong, no problem admitting it. Certainly doesn't happen very often❗😀

 

I said Biden would clean Trump's clock and I was dead wrong. That confessed...Trump wasn't any better. Lies, avoidance, no substance nor intelligence, full of brash BS, as always. It's a major embarrassment and failure to the USA that these 2 are all both parties can muster. 🤮

Trump was horrible but Biden was so incredibly horrible that all the attention is on Biden's disaster.

As said by a pundit, all Biden needed was a C- performance but he gave us an F. 

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Better question, what few things out of his smirking smug narcissistic burger hole were NOT lies!?

In other words, you cant point out one.

 

Troll.

[Jingthing]

Just now, Yagoda said:

In other words, you cant point out one.

 

Troll.

I would say if YOU can't point out several that maybe YOU should seek a screening for cognitive decline.