British Teacher Assaulted by Phuket Tailor in Front of Her Children

[Mr Meeseeks]

9 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Why do people move to a country, then demand the same standards they left behind?  Monetary compensation is the local standard.  They aren't going to change centuries of culture for her...

 

 

Interesting.

 

What is the going rate to slap your wife about? 🤔

[Chris BKK]

Name and shame the aggressive tailor so all can avoid that shop. I purchased from a a tailor shop run by a person from a country  east of Thailand across the sea once only, never again as their natural inclination is well known, starts with ch--ting

[Neeranam]

14 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Why do people move to a country, then demand the same standards they left behind?  Monetary compensation is the local standard.  They aren't going to change centuries of culture for her...

 

Indeed, it is better to adapt, or integrate into the society you moved to.  

[WDSmart]

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

With the murder case, the corruption started after the hitman and the paymaster were gaoled.

I had to look up the word "gaoled." I've never seen that word spelled that way before. 

[impulse]

15 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Interesting.

 

What is the going rate to slap your wife about? 🤔

 

That's not for me to decide, is it?  I don't have to agree with local customs.  I just have to accept them, because I have neither the right, nor the ability to change them to fit my foreign sense of justice.  Or I can tilt at windmills, or go somewhere else.

 

[WDSmart]

5 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

With the murder case, the corruption started after the hitman and the paymaster were gaoled.

I had to look up the word "gaoled." I've never seen that word spelled that way before. 

[NativeBob]

12 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Indeed, it is better to adapt, or integrate into the society you moved to.  

Probably she reminded good taylor about heydays when her ancestors used to shoot indians from cannons and Kohinoor is still in London. There are some jokes and some not-so-jokes.

[WDSmart]

Does "in front of her children" increase the severity of this incident?

[Mr Meeseeks]

Just now, impulse said:

 

That's not for me to decide, is it?  I don't have to agree with local customs.  I just have to accept them, because I have neither the right, nor the ability to change them to fit my foreign sense of justice.  Or I can tilt at windmills, or go somewhere else.

 

 

Foreign sense of justice? As far as I am aware there are laws in Thailand and a justice system in place to prosecute people for crimes.

 

Case in point - Swissman David

 

The law is being followed to the letter in his case. The Thai doctor that was the victim of the alleged assault refused to accept a payoff, as is her prerogative, and as it is the prerogative of the victim in this case. 

 

[NativeBob]

1 minute ago, WDSmart said:

Does "in front of her children" increase the severity of this incident?

Going to taylor's shop and starting arguing "in front of her children"?! 

What sort of mother will allow that to happen? I guess she was slightly pissed?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, AustinRacing said:

 Leave me with the guy for 5 mins and he’ll apologize to the woman. 

Jesus Christ...   And perhaps he'd end up making you apologise to him!

[WDSmart]

4 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

8 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Does "in front of her children" increase the severity of this incident?

Going to taylor's shop and starting arguing "in front of her children"?! 

What sort of mother will allow that to happen? I guess she was slightly pissed?

Actually, when I asked that question, I meant is it worse for the tailor because the assault was "in front of her children." But I also agree with what you are saying. 

[Neeranam]

8 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Foreign sense of justice? As far as I am aware there are laws in Thailand and a justice system in place to prosecute people for crimes.

 

Case in point - Swissman David

 

The law is being followed to the letter in his case. The Thai doctor that was the victim of the alleged assault refused to accept a payoff, as is her prerogative, and as it is the prerogative of the victim in this case. 

 

The Thai constitution aims to ensure justice and protection for everyone within Thailand, but the scope of some legal provisions is tailored specifically to Thai nationals.

[Felton Jarvis]

She cannot win this. She is a Caucasian. If the tailor is Thai, she may as well report to jail.

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, connda said:

That's sort of indicative of a patriarchal society where women are second-class citizens.  I can just see it from a male Thai policeman's perspective - "You know - its ok to slap around an assertive woman for not deferring to a Thai man.  Everybody knows that right?  Just go make nice with the tailor and don't press the issue or maybe things don't turn out so well of you, woman!"

Yeah - DO push the issue Ms. Inder.  Thais who are unable to constrain their tempers and lash out violently, especially men slapping around women, need to be held to account for their criminal assaults on others.  

Too bad we'll never know how this is resolved as it will be memory-hole within 48 hours.

Reminds of a stand up show by the American comedian Bill Burr :-

"Then they come on and say, there is no reason to hit a woman"

"Really!, the amount of ego in that statement, are you levitating above the rest of us, are you never annoying? I can give you 17 reasons off the top of my head, you can wake me from a drunken stupour and I can give you 9....you don't do it but to say there is no reason makes no sense."

[Liverpool Lou]

33 minutes ago, Chris BKK said:

Name and shame the aggressive tailor so all can avoid that shop. I purchased from a a tailor shop run by a person from a country  east of Thailand across the sea once only, never again as their natural inclination is well known, starts with ch--ting

Something wrong with chanting?

[impulse]

8 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Foreign sense of justice? As far as I am aware there are laws in Thailand and a justice system in place to prosecute people for crimes.

 

Case in point - Swissman David

 

The law is being followed to the letter in his case. The Thai doctor that was the victim of the alleged assault refused to accept a payoff, as is her prerogative, and as it is the prerogative of the victim in this case. 

 

So you don't figure the outcome will be different since Swissman David was a foreigner and his victim is a connected Thai doctor?

 

The pragmatic in me says she'd be ahead by doing what the cops suggested.  But I guess she's free to tilt at windmills if she wants.  Didn't end well for the Don, though.  I doubt it will end well for her.  I may disagree with it, but it's their country, their customs.

 

[Neeranam]

Just now, Felton Jarvis said:

She cannot win this. She is a Caucasian. If the tailor is Thai, she may as well report to jail.

My local Tailor is not Caucasian and not Thai. I am Thai and Caucasian. 

[Liverpool Lou]

19 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

I had to look up the word "gaoled." I've never seen that word spelled that way before. 

What other way is there to spell "gaoled"?

[Felton Jarvis]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

My local Tailor is not Caucasian and not Thai. I am Thai and Caucasian. 

Does not compute. My point stands.

[Liverpool Lou]

14 minutes ago, NativeBob said:

Going to taylor's shop and starting arguing "in front of her children"?! 

Taylor who?

[hotchilli]

Tailor is a cut above the average, knock-out prices.

[FritsSikkink]

4 hours ago, connda said:

What did the Thai doctor ask for?  2 million THB? 

 

Ms. Inder needs to ask for 2 million THB and criminal assault charges just like the Thai female doctor did with the violent Swiss idiot with a bad temper.  Ah - but then you find the difference between being a Thai national and a foreigner. The issue with the Thai doctor was in the media for weeks; this assault on the foreigner woman will be made to disappear in two days.  Watch!

Don't think she asked for any money, the Swiss guy offered money through an intermediate to make the case go away. She refused. 

[GammaGlobulin]

No doubt, just a communication problem.

 

And, she was probably treating the tailor like she treats her students.

 

I am glad I was never educated in an international school down there.

 

I do not like the teachers who are here today and gone tomorrow.

 

If you want to enroll in a school with English language instruction, then try the UK, or the USA.

 

Nobody slaps someone without reason.

I have never seen it happen.

 

Glad she is not teaching any students that I know.

 

 

[FritsSikkink]

28 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Does "in front of her children" increase the severity of this incident?

Shopkeeper should be punished but i don't understand why she didn't look for another shop when she didn't like the price but chose to stay with her children.  

[FritsSikkink]

17 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

She cannot win this. She is a Caucasian. If the tailor is Thai, she may as well report to jail.

Nonsense.

[Mr Meeseeks]

19 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

My local Tailor is not Caucasian and not Thai. I am Thai and Caucasian. 

 

You are a Thai citizen, you are not Thai though. 

[Thumbs]

So the Thai mobs demanding justice for a woman being assaulted are reserved for female doctors only… 

[WDSmart]

19 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What other way is there to spell "gaoled"?

The way I, and most of the English-speaking world, now spell it is "jailed." 

[CG1 Blue]

23 minutes ago, Felton Jarvis said:

She cannot win this. She is a Caucasian. If the tailor is Thai, she may as well report to jail.

But the tailor isn't Thai. How many Thai tailors do you see in Phuket etc.?