Zelensky Challenges Trump on War Plans, Decries Weapons Delays

[Hanaguma]

56 minutes ago, Tug said:

I am just fine with the thought of putin getting that special tour of the Lubyanka prison basement if you catch my drift and Russia rejoining the nations of the world remember Ukraine asked for our help we obliged and it should continue uninterrupted putin is the person stopping peace the Ukrainians are defending themselves as you well know

You dodged the question. Are you OK with the US spending 50,000 soldiers's lives to reclaim the Russian occupied part of Ukraine? Or more if the war expands?

 

Ukraine asked for help. We obliged. It stopped the invasion from engulfing the entire country. Mission accomplished.

[Rimmer]

A troll post and replies removed

[retarius]

Subtel propaganda here linking Trump with weapon delays in Ukraine. Trump has zero to do with what goes to Ukraine and what doesn't, he has zero operational control. Biden has total operational control and this vile little piece of green slime is totally responsible for Zelensky and what actions both US and Zelensky do and don't take. 

[impulse]

13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

 

Ukraine asked for help. We obliged. It stopped the invasion from engulfing the entire country. Mission accomplished

 

I don't think that was ever Putin's intent.  His initial feint toward Kiev was to convince Zelenskyy to run away to one of his luxury villas around the world.  If it hadn't been for the USA and BoJo convincing Zelenskyy to stay and fight, the real estate situation would be exactly the same as it is today, with half a million fewer dead people.  And the rebuilding of what's left of Ukraine would be much less extensive, and pretty far along.

 

I'm all for loans to help Ukraine rebuild.  Forgiven even, if conditions are met.  But not a dime more of my money to perpetuate the killing.

 

[frank83628]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Zelensky know the answer and is laughing at Trump and Putin. 

he is a puppet and doing what he is told. 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Eastern Ukraine is some of the best agricultural land on the planet.

 

Effectively, you are in favor of genocide of the Ukrainians. Stalin started it, Putin wants to finish the job.

 

Perhaps you are simply too ignorant to understand this.

its amusing when people like yourself call others 'ignorant' when all you do it just parrot the MSM.

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Totally disbelief in what you post. Zelensky and Congress are the warmongers ! Ukraine is defending their country from an invasion. Come on  mate, you cant be that thoughtless. 

the 'invasion' started due to US interference in the country, the coup in 2014 and everything after up until the threats to join nato!

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

I am just fine with the thought of putin getting that special tour of the Lubyanka prison basement if you catch my drift and Russia rejoining the nations of the world remember Ukraine asked for our help we obliged and it should continue uninterrupted putin is the person stopping peace the Ukrainians are defending themselves as you well know

no, UK did in 2022. 

[frank83628]

41 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You dodged the question. Are you OK with the US spending 50,000 soldiers's lives to reclaim the Russian occupied part of Ukraine? Or more if the war expands?

 

Ukraine asked for help. We obliged. It stopped the invasion from engulfing the entire country. Mission accomplished.

it was never going to engulf the whole country.

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[thaipo7]

7 hours ago, Tug said:

Trump will sell out nato faster than you can say Diet Coke unfortunately Trump seems to be a greater asset to the enemy than the United States or any of the democracies we need to keep hammering that reality!!

Right Tug - you are always right.  Almost as often as Biden.

[Hakuna Matata]

 

[Mavideol]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Trump will sell out nato faster than you can say Diet Coke unfortunately Trump seems to be a greater asset to the enemy than the United States or any of the democracies we need to keep hammering that reality!!

he would sell his mother for a buck

[BobBKK]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Zelinski ran his campaign on making peace with Russia!

 Absolutely!!!

[BobBKK]

I wish Trump would drop the hyperbole but we need him to try and stop the carnage: peace and Russian withdrawal (not inc Crimea) + no NATO.

[nauseus]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

Trump will sell out nato faster than you can say Diet Coke unfortunately Trump seems to be a greater asset to the enemy than the United States or any of the democracies we need to keep hammering that reality!!

 

No he won't. Reality my arm.

[tgw]

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

That's exactly right. Putin is willing to sacrifice Russian lives. The US and NATO are willing to sacrifice Ukranian lives. 

 

So now.... sacrifice NATO lives to kick Putin out of eastern Ukraine? Is that OK with you? 

 

Your logic is insulting.

NATO is not Ukraine's boss.

Ukraine wants to defend itself, it needs help.

 

If China attacked Taiwan and if Taiwan didn't want to submit to China you would also try to convince them to surrender, right ?

 

You have no regards for independence and freedom.

[NativeBob]

first: el'Presidente Ze is comedian. His shows were full of sarcastic jokes and almost insulting satire. And that pissed Putin I guess. 

second: Ze pissed Trump so badly Donnie almost got impeached. And Trump will never forgive it.

third: Even being a candidate Trump outweights Ze. He cannot "challenge" Trump - he is ex-leader of most corrupt regime in Northern hemisphere

forth: dwarf talking as WWF character is neither scary nor masculine. Its pathetic. 

[animalmagic]

4 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Zelinski ran his campaign on making peace with Russia!

Was that before or after Russia invaded?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

 Zelensky isn't going to like the answer.

Ain't that the truth. Zelensky is a dead man walking, IMO ( not literally ), and is no doubt in my mind preparing his getaway. One presumes he's not doing a Thieu, and trying to escape with a few tons of gold.

 

If he hangs around too long he may be experiencing a Mussolini exit from the outraged populace.

[BobBKK]

20 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

Your logic is insulting.

NATO is not Ukraine's boss.

Ukraine wants to defend itself, it needs help.

 

If China attacked Taiwan and if Taiwan didn't want to submit to China you would also try to convince them to surrender, right ?

 

You have no regards for independence and freedom.

That's absurd. What you are saying is the USA is the world's policeman. Taiwan is part of China, just like HK. If Ukraine had kept its neutrality, this would never have happened - and it is the USA's fault starting in 2014.

[thaibeachlovers]

58 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

it was never going to engulf the whole country.

Careful now. IMO the entire US/ western strategy to justify spending billions to support one side of a squabble in eastern Europe is to scare us with stories about how Putin wants all of Ukraine, and then will invade the EU ( never mind they have MAD ).

Apparently some ignore that Russia wasn't even able to take Kiev, and is hardly in a position to do so now. I guess some are just gullible.

[candide]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

its amusing when people like yourself call others 'ignorant' when all you do it just parrot the MSM.

It's better than parroting RT....

[Paul Henry]

Putin is a cancer and cancer spreads, Ukraine today,then Poland and on it will go. Only one cure cut it out and radiate whats left. 

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Paul Henry said:

Putin is a cancer and cancer spreads, Ukraine today,then Poland and on it will go. Only one cure cut it out and radiate whats left. 

Are you unaware that Poland is in NATO? Sure seems like it.

 

If Putin attacked Poland a lot of Euro countries will end up "radiated".

[Hanaguma]

51 minutes ago, tgw said:

 

Your logic is insulting.

NATO is not Ukraine's boss.

Ukraine wants to defend itself, it needs help.

 

If China attacked Taiwan and if Taiwan didn't want to submit to China you would also try to convince them to surrender, right ?

 

You have no regards for independence and freedom.

Ukraine is also not part of NATO. And as usual with most of those who cheer on the war, you did not answer the basic question- do you think NATO should intervene, at the cost of NATO members' soldiers lives?

[candide]

1 hour ago, Hakuna Matata said:

 

Of course! Trump's plan is the same as Putin's plan! 😆

[john donson]

yeah send stop sending weapons and money to the ukrainian dictator, elections cancelled, what you call that?   before you post, you know what happened in 2014 in ukraine ?

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, frank83628 said:

its amusing when people like yourself call others 'ignorant' when all you do it just parrot the MSM.

It's tragic when people who never finished high school, and have no knowledge of the history of Ukraine and Russia, can post complete codswallop on social media.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

I wish Trump would drop the hyperbole but we need him to try and stop the carnage: peace and Russian withdrawal (not inc Crimea) + no NATO.

You think Putin is going to give up Eastern Ukraine in any peace deal?

 

What are you smoking, I want some.