Trump lied 22 times in his acceptance speech.

[xylophone]

15 minutes ago, dukebowling said:

 

Uh...read the lawsuit...it was against Raffensberger who is a deep state hack.  A hand recount of the same illegal votes means nothing without verifying the signature matches. FYI - being a Republican does not give any credibility nor does being a Democrat. Most of both parties are war whore neocons.

 

One litmus test for good populists policies is which politicians voted against Ukrainian aid - top of the list in the Senate - JD Vance. Top of the list in the House - Thomas Massie. Even got to hand it to Bernie Sanders to vote against it. The rest of the politicians who voted for are compromised and don't deserve to represent Americans.

 

All these countries - Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, Taiwan etc have had plenty of aid which they have wasted and laundered. They didn't deserve these billions of dollars and definitely don't deserve one more cent. Those billions of dollars should be used to benefit Americans, not the military industrial complex.

 

This is why Trump is popular - he is supporting populists policies like the anti war movement. 

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Once I see the term "deep state" I know that any comments are are a farce. LOL

Also to get back to your other comment about the "stolen" election, read on.......so massive fines for Fox for the election lies should be proof enough. 

 

Fox News agreed to pay Dominion $787.5 million and acknowledged the court's earlier ruling that Fox had broadcast false statements about Dominion. The settlement did not require Fox News to apologize. It is the largest known media settlement for defamation in U.S. history.

The voting technology company Smartmatic can now move forward with its defamation lawsuit against Fox Corporation, a New York judge ruled Wednesday, dealing a blow to the parent company of Fox News, which is already having to pay a huge settlement over its repeated airing of 2020 election lies.

 

Edited July 26 by xylophone

[Yellowtail]

13 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Once I see the term "deep state" I know that any comments are are a farce. LOL

Also to get back to your other comment about the "stolen" election, read on.......so massive fines for Fox for the election lies should be proof enough. 

 

Fox News agreed to pay Dominion $787.5 million and acknowledged the court's earlier ruling that Fox had broadcast false statements about Dominion. The settlement did not require Fox News to apologize. It is the largest known media settlement for defamation in U.S. history.

The voting technology company Smartmatic can now move forward with its defamation lawsuit against Fox Corporation, a New York judge ruled Wednesday, dealing a blow to the parent company of Fox News, which is already having to pay a huge settlement over its repeated airing of 2020 election lies.

 

Once I see it's from xylophone I know that any comments are are are are are a farce. LOL

[dukebowling]

The Deep State comes from the dual state concept.

 

The dual state is namely a combination of the normative state (the rule of law) and the prerogative state (the pure—political or arbitrary—will of those in power). When the dual state becomes expansive and deeply entrenched in the government, the prerogative side becomes the Deep State.

 

This Deep State is the administrative bureaucracy that operates with administrative laws rather than the legislative criminal law of the land. These are laws or rules, not passed by congress, are created by the hundreds of agencies that the federal government spends more than $4 trillion a year on.

 

These agencies control Agriculture, the U.S. intelligence community, the environment, transportation, commerce, pharmaceuticals, the work place, taxes, education, labor, housing, energy and of course WAR. It used to be the Department of War before the change to the Department of Defense. 

 

The problem with the Deep State is the historical documented trend towards authoritarian control of a country. This was first demonstrated in pre WWII Germany.  It also has been pervasive in Turkey, Israel, South Africa, Russia and other democracies.

 

The US Deep State abuses its powers of surveillance, policing, jailing, military means, and now, biomedical control. It overthrew governments for more than half the countries in the world in the last century, inspired every single war of the last century, coopted think tanks, adulterated the academy and corrupted the free press. 

 

It has black box budgets for covert ops, third party payments to the military industrial complex and affiliated third party vendors, and the disguised deep state payments masquerading as foreign aid, NGO subsidies, and international organization “contributions.”

 

The Deep State is responsible for the Tuskegee Experiment, MK-Ultra, Operation Paper clip, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mongoose and Patcon just to name a few scandals (feel free to google if not familiar).

 

I'm more of a freedom kind of person, so I'm for Trump to dismantle the corrupted parts of the deep state.

 

 

 

Edited July 26 by dukebowling

[xylophone]

12 minutes ago, dukebowling said:

The Deep State comes from the dual state concept.

 

The dual state is namely a combination of the normative state (the rule of law) and the prerogative state (the pure—political or arbitrary—will of those in power). When the dual state becomes expansive and deeply entrenched in the government, the prerogative side becomes the Deep State.

 

This Deep State is the administrative bureaucracy that operates with administrative laws rather than the legislative criminal law of the land. These are laws or rules, not passed by congress, are created by the hundreds of agencies that the federal government spends more than $4 trillion a year on.

 

These agencies control Agriculture, the U.S. intelligence community, the environment, transportation, commerce, pharmaceuticals, the work place, taxes, education, labor, housing, energy and of course WAR. It used to be the Department of War before the change to the Department of Defense. 

 

The problem with the Deep State is the historical documented trend towards authoritarian control of a country. This was first demonstrated in pre WWII Germany.  It also has been pervasive in Turkey, Israel, South Africa, Russia and other democracies.

 

The US Deep State abuses its powers of surveillance, policing, jailing, military means, and now, biomedical control. It overthrew governments for more than half the countries in the world in the last century, inspired every single war of the last century, coopted think tanks, adulterated the academy and corrupted the free press. 

 

It has black box budgets for covert ops, third party payments to the military industrial complex and affiliated third party vendors, and the disguised deep state payments masquerading as foreign aid, NGO subsidies, and international organization “contributions.”

 

The Deep State is responsible for the Tuskegee Experiment, MK-Ultra, Operation Paper clip, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mongoose and Patcon just to name a few scandals (feel free to google if not familiar).

 

I'm more of a freedom kind of person, so I'm for Trump to dismantle the corrupted parts of the deep state.

 

 

 

According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.

 

In 2020, many conspiracy theories circulated during the coronavirus pandemic partly because of the increased anxiety, larger number of people staying at home, and greater focus on the Internet and social media outlets.^[12][13] One such conspiracy that proliferated from the 2020 Presidential election was QAnon.

 

Opinion polling done in 2017 and 2018 suggests that approximately half of all Americans believe in the existence of an American deep state (very sad).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States#:~:text=According to an,United States government.

 

Stop drinking the kool aid you poor easily led trumpie, you really have got it bad......deep state was born of conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

I see the cult is strong within you.

 

PS. As there is no deep state, what exactly is trump going to dismantle?

[candide]

18 minutes ago, dukebowling said:

The Deep State comes from the dual state concept.

 

The dual state is namely a combination of the normative state (the rule of law) and the prerogative state (the pure—political or arbitrary—will of those in power). When the dual state becomes expansive and deeply entrenched in the government, the prerogative side becomes the Deep State.

 

This Deep State is the administrative bureaucracy that operates with administrative laws rather than the legislative criminal law of the land. These are laws or rules, not passed by congress, are created by the hundreds of agencies that the federal government spends more than $4 trillion a year on.

 

These agencies control Agriculture, the U.S. intelligence community, the environment, transportation, commerce, pharmaceuticals, the work place, taxes, education, labor, housing, energy and of course WAR. It used to be the Department of War before the change to the Department of Defense. 

 

The problem with the Deep State is the historical documented trend towards authoritarian control of a country. This was first demonstrated in pre WWII Germany.  It also has been pervasive in Turkey, Israel, South Africa, Russia and other democracies.

 

The US Deep State abuses its powers of surveillance, policing, jailing, military means, and now, biomedical control. It overthrew governments for more than half the countries in the world in the last century, inspired every single war of the last century, coopted think tanks, adulterated the academy and corrupted the free press. 

 

It has black box budgets for covert ops, third party payments to the military industrial complex and affiliated third party vendors, and the disguised deep state payments masquerading as foreign aid, NGO subsidies, and international organization “contributions.”

 

The Deep State is responsible for the Tuskegee Experiment, MK-Ultra, Operation Paper clip, Operation Northwoods, Operation Mongoose and Patcon just to name a few scandals (feel free to google if not familiar).

 

I'm more of a freedom kind of person, so I'm for Trump to dismantle the corrupted parts of the deep state.

 

 

 

I heard that aluminium foils glued on walls actually work quite well.... 😀

[xylophone]

4 minutes ago, candide said:

I heard that aluminium foils glued on walls actually work quite well.... 😀

Thanks....hard to understand how these trumpies/Maga goobers fall for such nonsense, but they do, time and time again.

[BarraMarra]

On 7/20/2024 at 8:15 AM, renaissanc said:

Trump wasn't convicted of rape. 

No he paid off a Hooker. Great role Model to the younger voters you can lie its ok you can take a prostitute and if caught out pay to silence her its ok.

[BarraMarra]

On 7/20/2024 at 11:13 AM, Yagoda said:

Why? Biden's lies arDon't e so much worse and affect more people than Trump's puffers. It'll be more fun to discuss how his lies have led the Democratic Party to the edge of electoral destruction

I can't Recall Biden paying hush money to a porn star. Trump did he then lied when he said " its all lies I never heard of this woman " true or false Yagoda ?

Edited July 26 by BarraMarra

[Yagoda]

29 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

I can't Recall Biden paying hush money to a porn star. Trump did he then lied when he said " its all lies I never heard of this woman " true or false Yagoda ?

I stopped worrying about where folks stuck their dicks before they were President as opposed to when they were President. Let me know when they find spooge on a Trumps intern's dress.

 

Westerners in Tailand shouldnt care what folks do with their turgid salamis of desire.

 

Hush money is legal and the lawfare case involving it will be reversed and dismissed on appeal

 

 

Edited July 26 by Yagoda

[BarraMarra]

I'm not a yank thank god I'm in the UK. We have just had Elections and voted out our old Conservative Government for a labour Government. Everyone Eligible for voting did so. less then 12 hours later after the first vote was counted we had a new Government no cheating no bullying Voters all above board. As far as i can see Trump and his supporters are just brainwashed by him. It does not matter if they lie threaten or intimidate jurors like Trump has just done in his last court case.  As someone posted earlier Trump and his supporters will never except anything if he told his supporters the World was flat they would believe it.  

[GinBoy2]

On 7/19/2024 at 7:20 PM, 2baht said:

And all his lowly educated redneck follower fools lapped it up like the fools they are!

To quote Trump

 

"I love the uneducated"

 

Baffles me, now I know why!

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, BarraMarra said:

I'm not a yank thank god I'm in the UK. We have just had Elections and voted out our old Conservative Government for a labour Government. Everyone Eligible for voting did so. less then 12 hours later after the first vote was counted we had a new Government no cheating no bullying Voters all above board. As far as i can see Trump and his supporters are just brainwashed by him. It does not matter if they lie threaten or intimidate jurors like Trump has just done in his last court case.  As someone posted earlier Trump and his supporters will never except anything if he told his supporters the World was flat they would believe it.  

Well thats fine bro, I dont take much of what you Brits say seriously anyway, unless you are Mancunian then I will listen, but as to the rest of you, my Mancunian friends say you are barely human, especially scousers.

[Bday Prang]

On 7/20/2024 at 8:21 AM, Mazungu said:

Well if we're going to call Biden a geriatric, brain dead idiot here are the descriptions for Trump:

 

A convicted felon, bully, carnival barker, fraudster, pathological liar, impeached twice, convicted rapist, insurrectionist, "I just need to find 11,780 votes," kept stolen highly classified documents in his toilet, "grab'em by the pussy!" called dead American soldiers "Suckers" and "Losers," has 4 criminal indictments, inject yourself with bleach to cure COVID, lied about Mexico paying for the wall, lost the 2020 election fair and square and is still crying like a baby over it. 

 

Anybody voting for someone like that needs to get their head examined. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And how would you describe somebody who was perfectly happy that the nuclear launch codes are in the possession of a man  in the advanced stages of dementia ?   Equally worthy of a head examination would be the correct answer

[candide]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

Thanks....hard to understand how these trumpies/Maga goobers fall for such nonsense, but they do, time and time again.

The most ridiculous aspect of this nonsense is the believe that Trump will do anything else than lining the pocket of his sponsor and familly.

[BarraMarra]

58 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well thats fine bro, I dont take much of what you Brits say seriously anyway, unless you are Mancunian then I will listen, but as to the rest of you, my Mancunian friends say you are barely human, especially scousers.

I'm not your Bro you really have a complex don't you Yagoda by the way i'm a Manc.

[shdmn]

On 7/25/2024 at 11:07 AM, Yellowtail said:

All you have to do is come up with a recording of Trump saying he wants to have sex with his daughter and I will vote for Harris, but you can't because it's a lie, and you saying over and over does not change that. 

 

Why do you not care about your hero Biden showering with his daughter, or with your precious Kamala having sex with a married Willie Brown thirty years her senior to advance her career? 

I prefer to just point and laugh since convicted felon supporters have no interested in the truth anyways.  Like when Obama posted his birth certificate knowing full well it was just a dogwhistle and wouldn't shut anyone up. Sure enough MAGA world just moved the goalposts and was like AHA!!!, BUT WHERE IS THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!!!! So then we had to listen to that excrement for the next 18 months. 

 

Edited July 26 by shdmn

[candide]

It's obvious that Trump is getting old! Only 22 times! 😀

[dukebowling]

6 hours ago, xylophone said:

According to an American political conspiracy theory, the deep state is a clandestine network of members of the federal government (especially within the FBI and CIA), working in conjunction with high-level financial and industrial entities and leaders, to exercise power alongside or within the elected United States government.

 

In 2020, many conspiracy theories circulated during the coronavirus pandemic partly because of the increased anxiety, larger number of people staying at home, and greater focus on the Internet and social media outlets.^[12][13] One such conspiracy that proliferated from the 2020 Presidential election was QAnon.

 

Opinion polling done in 2017 and 2018 suggests that approximately half of all Americans believe in the existence of an American deep state (very sad).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_state_in_the_United_States#:~:text=According to an,United States government.

 

Stop drinking the kool aid you poor easily led trumpie, you really have got it bad......deep state was born of conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

I see the cult is strong within you.

 

PS. As there is no deep state, what exactly is trump going to dismantle?

 

Quoting wikipedia propaganda? How about an original thought? Again, you swallow the main stream media makes you easily controllable. How about really digging into it like I did?

 

I don't necessarily want you to think like me, I just would like you to think.

Edited July 26 by dukebowling

[Jingthing]

14 minutes ago, dukebowling said:

 

Quoting wikipedia propaganda? How about an original thought? Again, you swallow the main stream media makes you easily controllable. How about really digging into it like I did?

 

I don't necessarily want you to think like me, I just would like you to think.

Did your "own" (Q) research, didya?

[Mazungu]

8 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

And how would you describe somebody who was perfectly happy that the nuclear launch codes are in the possession of a man  in the advanced stages of dementia ?   Equally worthy of a head examination would be the correct answer

That's why it's so important to keep Trump from ever again stepping inside the White House. 

 

 

[xylophone]

4 hours ago, dukebowling said:

Again, you swallow the main stream media makes you easily controllable

Wrong again, poor man, as Wikipedia is not considered mainstream media, in fact it is an online encyclopaedia and to add to your enlightenment, "Newspapers, television news networks, cable news, and radio are generally considered mainstream media outlets".

 

I am capable of clear and concise thinking, having started a successful investment division of just under $2 billion, for a major bank, and managing over 40+ staff and thousands of customers, but what I am not, is a supporter of a compulsive liar, thief and felon.

 

Anyway I'm done arguing with a conspiracy theorist and trump cult follower, so from now on, I shall put you on ignore, although I have to say that posts like yours do confirm that a lot of trump supporters are the very kind that he prefers (do your research on that!).

[Yellowtail]

11 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

No he paid off a Hooker. Great role Model to the younger voters you can lie its ok you can take a prostitute and if caught out pay to silence her its ok.

That he paid her has been proven, that he had sex with her has not. 

 

I'm sure no one posting here has ever had sex with a prostitute. 

[Yellowtail]

43 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Wrong again, poor man, as Wikipedia is not considered mainstream media, in fact it is an online encyclopaedia and to add to your enlightenment, "Newspapers, television news networks, cable news, and radio are generally considered mainstream media outlets".

 

I am capable of clear and concise thinking, having started a successful investment division of just under $2 billion, for a major bank, and managing over 40+ staff and thousands of customers, but what I am not, is a supporter of a compulsive liar, thief and felon.

 

Anyway I'm done arguing with a conspiracy theorist and trump cult follower, so from now on, I shall put you on ignore, although I have to say that posts like yours do confirm that a lot of trump supporters are the very kind that he prefers (do your research on that!).

Only the left does not consider Wikipedia not left. 

[BarraMarra]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

That he paid her has been proven, that he had sex with her has not. 

 

I'm sure no one posting here has ever had sex with a prostitute. 

Come on Yellowtail stop clutching at straws with this one unless you want a pic of him humping stormy. Then again you would probably say its a lookalike or a conspiracy against Trump.

Edited July 27 by BarraMarra

[Peabody]

12 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Hush money is legal and the lawfare case involving it will be reversed and dismissed on appeal

He wasn't convicted for paying hush money. He was convicted for falsifying business records.

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Peabody said:

He wasn't convicted for paying hush money. He was convicted for falsifying business records.

 

You can expect a backlash from this......'they' are not keen on people who know what they are talking about.

[BarraMarra]

The Trumpers on here Will B Good will only say its all lies or a conspiracy, or the old favorite excuse he was judged by a biased judge.  

[Will B Good]

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sure no one posting here has ever had sex with a prostitute. 

 

I can honestly say I've never paid a shed load of money to a prostitute not to sleep with her. 

[Yagoda]

Just now, Peabody said:

He wasn't convicted for paying hush money. He was convicted for falsifying business records.

Hey thanks lol. It will still be reversed

[Yagoda]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

You can expect a backlash from this......'they' are not keen on people who know what they are talking about.

They must be keen on you then