Trump's pick of JD Vance a hopefully fatal mistake for his maga fascist movement

[cdemundo]

3 hours ago, Thai Visa Member 999999 said:

That very few white guys are going to vote for Trump.

 

40% is a landslide. Over a large sample size, 40% is quite small. It is a lot more than what Republicans typically get from Black voters but if white men were still the only legal voters, it would be one of the worst defeats in history.

 

Since most people have self-selected their circle of friends and family in the US, it is overwhelmingly improbable that a Biden voter would have overwhelmingly Trump supporter acquaintances as you implied. That should be quite obvious if you’ve lived for any time in the US for the last 30 years or so. 

Incoherent.

 

"That very few white guys are going to vote for Trump.

40% is a landslide. Over a large sample size, 40% is quite small."

 

I'll take your answer off the air. 

If you know what I mean.

 

 

[Caldera]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:41 PM, Jingthing said:

Vance was bought by billionaires Theil and Musk to further their radical extremist anti democracy agenda.

Vance got a job in tech with zero qualifications based on Theil getting him in.

 

If you must mention Thiel in two consecutive sentences, you should learn how to spell his name. Which would be a good idea anyway, considering that he's one of the shadowy figures running the country.

 

As for the VP pick, not a good move indeed. 

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, Caldera said:

 

If you must mention Thiel in two consecutive sentences, you should learn how to spell his name. Which would be a good idea anyway, considering that he's one of the shadowy figures running the country.

 

As for the VP pick, not a good move indeed. 

OK but be sure to pronounce Kamala correctly. 

[TedG]

14 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Do you support Project 2025?

 

 

There are parts that I like.

 

Can you explain why it’s fascist? 

[TedG]

12 hours ago, tgw said:

 

some reading:

short article: https://dailymontanan.com/2024/07/17/american-fascism-starts-in-places-like-montana/

 

a checklist:

https://www.keene.edu/academics/cchgs/resources/presentation-materials/characteristics-and-appeal-of-fascism/download/

 

longer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trumpism

 

and here I applied the checklist. green checkmarks show where Trump fits the bill in fact or in intention.

 

 

How does this relate to Project 2025?   Cite some examples in Project 2025 that you call fascist. 

 

[TedG]

14 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

In simple terms:

Fascism is a far-right form of government in which most of the country's power is held by one ruler or a small group, under a single party.

This is the Project 2025 agenda.

None of you people can cite any examples of how project 2025 is fascist.  Does everyone on the left post without thinking about the topic?  

[Captain Monday]

7 hours ago, BobBKK said:

The Talmud holds that a marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew is both prohibited and also does not constitute a marriage under Jewish law – the non-Jew would need to convert in order for the marriage to be legal. Care to explain?

So what? Marriage as defined by a state of the USA has nothing to do with religion.

Just a legal contract, largely economic  that gives rights and responsibiliities to both parties.

 

If one wishes to have their "marriage" accepted by ones' particular church please contact the relevant ecclesiastic authority. 

Edited July 25 by Captain Monday

[thecyclist]

16 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Did you not see one of his first speeches where he layed a big fat turd on the dining room table and watched it squirm? He was asking for the crowd to give him applause ala Jeb Bush style flops. Nope, he was a serious mistake.

Yeah, the one about the racist Mountain Dew, which was good anyway....pause...I love you guys. 

JD is so full of sh.t., it's embarrassing even by MAGA standards. 

[bamnutsak]

Rumors swirling that Trump is suffering "buyer's remorse".

 

[HappyExpat57]

19 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

Rumors swirling that Trump is suffering "buyer's remorse".

 

One of 45's lizard brain strengths is knowing star quality, and JD has none. You KNOW 45's asked more than one person on the golf course if they thought he made a mistake in choosing that loser.

[Skipalongcassidy]

8 hours ago, TedG said:

  Does everyone on the left post without thinking about the topic?  

YES

[BobBKK]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Care to stop trolling.

What a disgusting ignorant post.

Do you know the first thing about modern Jews?

The majority are secular.

Kamala's marriage is 100 percent legal under the laws of the U.S. state that the marriage occurred. 

There may be some extremely religious rabbis that don't recognize such marriages.
SO WHAT!!!!???

Jewish is both an ethnic identity and a religion.

No need to be observant to be a Jewish person.

Within religious Jews there is a wide range within that from super liberal reform to extremely observant Haredi. 

I am not an expert on the Talmud per se but as you're so ignorant I suggest you watch the show The Story of the Jews.

 

The Story of the Jews (TV series) - Wikipedia

 

I do know a huge thing with religious Jews is endless discussion and debates about different issues in the Talmud.

Also no one Jew can explain about Jewish stuff as the famous saying -- 100 Jews, 100 opinions.

Kindly desist from fomenting Jew hatred with continued inflammatory posts as above.

 

 

That was NOT my point, and you know it. I was pointing out that Kamala had not converted.

Why did I raise it? Only because YOU mentioned it.

YOU brought up that her husband was a Jew - why? It is irrelevant, and I could not care less what his or her religion is.

You can stop your self-righteous, feigned 'hurt feelings' right now, as you are very disingenuous. 

[brewsterbudgen]

Back on topic, what are the odds on something happening to JD soon and Haley stepping in?  Maybe Trump's only chance.

[Danderman123]

13 hours ago, TedG said:

None of you people can cite any examples of how project 2025 is fascist.  Does everyone on the left post without thinking about the topic?  

If you support Project 2025, you are very far from the political mainstream.

 

 

[Danderman123]

I am waiting for the Trumpers to tell us how great JD Vance is.

[TedG]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

If you support Project 2025, you are very far from the political mainstream.

 

 

 

Can you don’t know what’s in Project 2025.   You are doing nothing but echoing talking points. 

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

 

Can you don’t know what’s in Project 2025.   You are doing nothing but echoing talking points. 

Project 2025

 

Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies or terminated.[21][22] Funding for climate research would be cut and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed according to conservative principles.[23][24] The project seeks to cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid,[25][26] and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care.[27][28] The project seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception under the Affordable Care Act[25] and enforce the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills nationwide.[28][29] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[30]: 5 [31] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[31][32] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs[5][32] and affirmative action[33] by having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism."

 

In other words, it's a Fascist white male platform. 

 

Before, you go off on the "Fascist" word,  there's a lot more in the manifesto that is pure Fascism, such as party control over DOJ.

[TedG]

10 hours ago, scorecard said:

So what in your opinion is a progressive minded judge. I hate to think.

 

But how could any judge be better than the very very corrupt Clarence Thomas?

 

55 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Project 2025

 

Project 2025 recommends abolishing the Department of Education, whose programs would be either transferred to other agencies or terminated.[21][22] Funding for climate research would be cut and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) would be reformed according to conservative principles.[23][24] The project seeks to cut funding for Medicare and Medicaid,[25][26] and urges the government to explicitly reject abortion as health care.[27][28] The project seeks to eliminate coverage of emergency contraception under the Affordable Care Act[25] and enforce the Comstock Act to prosecute those who send and receive contraceptives and abortion pills nationwide.[28][29] It proposes criminalizing pornography,[30]: 5 [31] removing legal protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity,[31][32] and terminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs[5][32] and affirmative action[33] by having the DOJ prosecute "anti-white racism."

 

In other words, it's a Fascist white male platform. 

 

Before, you go off on the "Fascist" word,  there's a lot more in the manifesto that is pure Fascism, such as party control over DOJ.

 

This is fascist?  How is cutting government programs fascist?  You don’t know what fascism means.  

 

You need to think for a change and stop repeating what you hear.  

[tai4de2]

I think I'll watch Hillbilly Elegy this weekend, in honor of our next VPOTUS.

[susanlea]

1 hour ago, TedG said:

 

 

This is fascist?  How is cutting government programs fascist?  You don’t know what fascism means.  

 

You need to think for a change and stop repeating what you hear.  

Yes it is laughable. These modern socialists 

 

Big gov - socialist/ fascism

 

 

[Yellowtail]

Half the country are MAGA fascists, how funny is that? 

[Will B Good]

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-wife-attacks-maga-trump-running-mate-1926194

 

How do people tolerate this behaviour?

[TedG]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

 

 

Before, you go off on the "Fascist" word,  there's a lot more in the manifesto that is pure Fascism, such as party control over DOJ.

There already is party control over the DOJ.   The executive branch runs the DOJ. 

[ricklev]

On 7/25/2024 at 8:15 AM, Dave5710 said:

You are a complete idiot.  Vance is a military veteran that graduated from Yale with a flawless record.  Harris is a complete disaster that was not even born in America but in Canada. She failed the Bar exam as well!  Go look at the polls dumb dumb.  Trump is destroying her!  As a Democratic nominee, she bowed out of the race early with a 1% approval rating!  She’s a radical leftist that held blacks who committed minor crimes past their release dates.  This makes her a racist as well.  She started her political career by means of an affair with a married man!  Demo-rats lost already!  Biden was a liar and she lied for him, calling him the most competent president she’s ever seen!  The media will push their lies about margin of error polling that has her within striking distance of Trump.  This is bull<deleted>.  She also received 100 million in donations for her campaign illegally.  She’s not qualified to even hold the position she’s in. A border czar whose claim to fame was keeping our borders open!  Let’s see if her Ven diagrams help her when she debates Trump… if she even shows up!  The Demonrats last chance after failing to impeach Trump, falsely accusing him of crimes Biden actually committed, weaponizing a justice system against him, fabricating a Russian collusion hoax, and last but not least a failed assassination attempt will not deter Trump from becoming our 47th U.S. President!  You can count on it!

You know, it is possible to disagree with someone's public policy positions without hating them.  Who benefits from the division and hate?  

[susanlea]

7 minutes ago, ricklev said:

You know, it is possible to disagree with someone's public policy positions without hating them.  Who benefits from the division and hate?  

Left started the hate 100 years ago.

[MalcolmB]

On 7/24/2024 at 12:41 PM, Jingthing said:

Trump still in a state of shock from the flesh wound on his ear foolishly listened to his epically obnoxious blowhard son Don Jr. and went with J.D. Vance over a more sensible choice who would have actually helped him.

 

OOPS!

Trump made a BOO BOO.

 

Vance brings nothing to the ticket electorally.

Vance has almost no political experience.

Vance has the speaking charisma of damp rag.

Vance did a full 180 degree turn from Trump is Hitler to Trump is God.

The people smell a total opportunist phony and the people are right. 

Vance was bought by billionaires Theil and Musk to further their radical extremist anti democracy agenda.

Vance got a job in tech with zero qualifications based on Theil getting him in.

Vance in his wretched venture capital "career" backed just one company.

That one company went bankrupt.

Batting average -- 000

Vance was an ideological choice with the idea of having a Trump mini me who could project maga fascism well into the future after Trump fulfilling the idea of a fascist maga REICH as referenced in their propaganda literature.

Vance has even more unpopular extremist views than Trump on issues like abortion. 

The horrible for Trump mistake of the Vance pick was done when he arrogantly thought he was running against Biden with the expectation of a historic landslide sweeping in maga fascism without any resistance left in congress and certainly not SCOTUS.

Well, folks, happily, he messed up BIGLY!

Turns out Trump isn't quite the teflon God many of you thought he was.

No I am not saying 100 percent that Harris will beat Trump.

But it's starting to look pretty pretty good as far as her chances especially considering there is no chance she will be as stupid as Trump with her VP pick. 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you decided who you will vote for yet?

Or are you still tossing up?

[SingAPorn]

The real fascists are amongst the Biden clan who are supplying arms to Israel and thus contributing to global war crimes.

 

Netanyahou is under internal arrest warrant for war crimes. But yet a big part of the US Congress was licking his boots and letting him make his speech at the Capitaol.  That is fine, but in that case allow also Putin to come and give his version of the story regarding Ukraine.

[Dave5710]

I’ll take an ex military patriot who graduated from Yale, over any scumbag Demoncrat they put up against him.  Harris failed the Bar exam and disenfranchised her own black voters by holding them in prison for marijuana violations.  If you lived in the States you would know she’s polling about 10 points behind Trump right now!  Stop watching CNN crap and look up Real America’s Voice on YouTube! 

[Danderman123]

3 minutes ago, SingAPorn said:

The real fascists are amongst the Biden clan who are supplying arms to Israel and thus contributing to global war crimes.

 

Netanyahou is under internal arrest warrant for war crimes. But yet a big part of the US Congress was licking his boots and letting him make his speech at the Capitaol.  That is fine, but in that case allow also Putin to come and give his version of the story regarding Ukraine.

Tell us how much you agree with JD Vance's position on Israel.

[Will B Good]

35 minutes ago, ricklev said:

You know, it is possible to disagree with someone's public policy positions without hating them.  Who benefits from the division and hate?  

Republicans?