Mass Arrests Follow Violent Far-Right Demonstrations Across the UK

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The BBC, is that meant to be a serious source these days? The disruptions have a far greater cause than just the three murdered  girls by the son of African Immigrants. I am not supporting attacks on the Police. ignoring the deep seated causes of continued mass and illegal immigration snd the resentment of creeping Islamisation along with two tier policing is largely to blame. These protesters are being charged already, the two muslim thugs who attacked police at Manchester airport 2 weeks have still not been charged.

There is no excuse for rioting.

 

Which you now obfuscate as ‘disruptions’.

 

 

[transam]

11 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Where are you?
Here?
 

You are missing the point that this incident was not part of an evil plan of a terrorist cell. Just an idiot kid like the Trump shooter.

The right have a point about some attacks by Muslims in the UK. But this is not one of them.

 

Some of these idiots are that dumb they don’t even know what country they are in.

 

Where am I...............🙄

Did I say it was........?

Move on chap.........

 

Who said it was.........?  🤔

[Bangel72]

Far too much misinformation going around on this and law abiding citizens getting dragged in, particularly with mob mentality.

 

Camera's are everywhere, one video of 20 people looting a sausage roll each from Greggs yesterday with high chance of criminal record and maybe jail time if they had any room, for a snack. Accessorial liability is also something to be aware of, pick up a brick and whether you throw it or not if the guy beside you does, he could drag you down with him.

 

Prior London riots, months of painstakingly going through footage and prosecuting pretty much everyone seems to be a common view of what happened.

 

If you have kids out on the street there, at least tell not to be stupid and stay aware of and within the law.

[StevieAus]

22 hours ago, stevenl said:

"You can't help feeling that by labelling these protests "far-right", the media is attempting to deflect attention from the grievances that prompted them."

 

No idea who you mean with 'you'.

But they're called far right because they are far right violent thugs. This has nothing to do with 'grievances', only with thugs wanting violence.

So are the football supporters from various teams who over the years have, wrecked trains, shops and had running battles with their opposing side and the police “ far- right” as many seem to be violent thugs.

[morrobay]

Same in US with these BLM people hijacking the issue in order to loot . That's what martial law is for. But of course you need the Right government in charge. Say to you people: Try that in Albania 

[thesetat2013]

22 hours ago, stevenl said:

"You can't help feeling that by labelling these protests "far-right", the media is attempting to deflect attention from the grievances that prompted them."

 

No idea who you mean with 'you'.

But they're called far right because they are far right violent thugs. This has nothing to do with 'grievances', only with thugs wanting violence.

From all the videos i saw of the riots.. No thuggery happened until police intervened. 

I am curious though. Why is it the reports claim a gathering of people they do not agree with who want to show how they think or feel about something into a riot that demands police intervention and creates even more hostility? 

If those same people were there chanting praising the government and the decisions made it would not have been with a police force vying to remove them causing a riot to happen. The news seems very biased in their reporting as well. 

[simple1]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

The BBC, is that meant to be a serious source these days? The disruptions have a far greater cause than just the three murdered  girls by the son of African Immigrants. I am not supporting attacks on the Police. ignoring the deep seated causes of continued mass and illegal immigration snd the resentment of creeping Islamisation along with two tier policing is largely to blame. These protesters are being charged already, the two muslim thugs who attacked police at Manchester airport 2 weeks have still not been charged.

Yes, the BBC is a credible and trustworthy  news reporting organisation.  Perhaps you would like to enlighten who are your sources. UK Police will charge people once investigation provides sufficient evidence for charges and supported by DPP. The airport matter maybe complicated due to police using excessive force i.e. kicking and stamping on the suspects head i.e. will a jury be likely convict in light of police unlawful behaviour.

[proton]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no excuse for rioting.

 

Which you now obfuscate as ‘disruptions’.

 

 

 

No excuse but there are causes, just deflecting in name calling and describing it as a far right insurrection or whatever does not solve anything. Even Thailand could stop boats arriving, we use the border force (farce) to escort illegal immigrants in then spend billions a year on looking after them. Never mind British pensioners can help with their heating allowance scrapped. People who think this is just about 3 girls murdered by the son of African immigrants are deluded.

Edited August 5 by proton

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

From all the videos i saw of the riots.. No thuggery happened until police intervened. 

I am curious though. Why is it the reports claim a gathering of people they do not agree with who want to show how they think or feel about something into a riot that demands police intervention and creates even more hostility? 

If those same people were there chanting praising the government and the decisions made it would not have been with a police force vying to remove them causing a riot to happen. The news seems very biased in their reporting as well. 

Thanks for again showing your true colours: laming the police in stead of the thugs.

[brianthainess]

On 8/4/2024 at 11:07 AM, frank83628 said:

 Tensions have been particularly high following the tragic killing of three young girls at a Taylor Swift-themed dance party in Southport, Merseyside, earlier in the week...by ................?

 

why not say who did the stabbing? 

They have a Christian by all accounts. Oh he was black .......

[brianthainess]

These far right thugs, doing what they like best incite riots and religious hate to loot from shops. No thought for the rest of society while they attack innocent people. 

It appears he was a Christian yet they haven't protested outside any churches yet.

[impulse]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s put that to the test:

 

Where the statements made by some on this forum that the murderer was ‘an immigrant’, ‘an asylum seeker’, ‘a Muslim’?

 

Correct or were they misinformation?

 

Contending that the recent stabbing is the only reason for the riots is like claiming the Gaza strife started on Oct7 and the Ukraine issues started in 2022.  It ignores decades of pent up frustration.

 

Do a Google search for "rotherham grooming gangs" and you'll find hundreds of links over decades. Do you think it's a coincidence or random violence that the "right wing mobs" are trying to torch a migrant hotel where thousands of girls have been sexually assaulted by migrants?

 

Of course, I don't support violence.  But if the cops and officials aren't going to protect the community, doesn't that push good people up against a wall? 

 

Edited August 5 by impulse

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, proton said:

 

No excuse but there are causes, just deflecting in name calling and describing it as a far right insurrection or whatever does not solve anything. Even Thailand could stop boats arriving, we use the border force (farce) to escort illegal immigrants in then spend billions a year on looking after them. Never mind British pensioners can help with their heating allowance scrapped. People who think this is just about 3 girls murdered by the son of African immigrants are deluded.

Yes there are causes.

 

Rightwing extremists peddling hatred to their flock.

 

A group of people who in response to a heinous murder, set about attacking a completely innocent community, destroying property, looting businesss and violently assaulting the police.

 

Not the brightest bunch and so very easily lead I the wrong direction.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 5 by Chomper Higgot

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, StevieAus said:

So are the football supporters from various teams who over the years have, wrecked trains, shops and had running battles with their opposing side and the police “ far- right” as many seem to be violent thugs.

The association of the extreme right wing and football hooliganism is well established:

 

https://www.kent.ac.uk/anthropology-conservation/news/6875/the-relationship-between-football-hooligans-and-right-wing-politics

 

[Chomper Higgot]

13 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Contending that the recent stabbing is the only reason for the riots is like claiming the Gaza strife started on Oct7 and the Ukraine issues started in 2022.  It ignores decades of pent up frustration.

 

Do a Google search for "rotherham grooming gangs" and you'll find hundreds of links over decades. Do you think it's a coincidence or random violence that the "right wing mobs" are trying to torch a migrant hotel where thousands of girls have been sexually assaulted by migrants?

 

Of course, I don't support violence.  But if the cops and officials aren't going to protect the community, doesn't that push good people up against a wall? 

 

No surprise at all, you didn’t answer the question.

 

Do you want to have another go?

[roo860]

4 hours ago, Bangel72 said:

Far too much misinformation going around on this and law abiding citizens getting dragged in, particularly with mob mentality.

 

Camera's are everywhere, one video of 20 people looting a sausage roll each from Greggs yesterday with high chance of criminal record and maybe jail time if they had any room, for a snack. Accessorial liability is also something to be aware of, pick up a brick and whether you throw it or not if the guy beside you does, he could drag you down with him.

 

Prior London riots, months of painstakingly going through footage and prosecuting pretty much everyone seems to be a common view of what happened.

 

If you have kids out on the street there, at least tell not to be stupid and stay aware of and within the law.

I believe they left all the Vegan sausage rolls at Greggs.  🙃 

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No surprise at all, you didn’t answer the question.

 

Do you want to have another go?

 

Yeah, tough to answer the question directly without getting the post deleted for linking to "unapproved sources", so my post looks very different than my first draft.

 

I contend that the fact the kid was born in the UK scares people even more than blaming a newcoming migrant.  It's an indication that this is going to be a multi-generational problem.  Kinda goes along with the German Charity throwing up their hands recently and declaring that "integration has failed".  So the Brits (and the Swedes, and the French, and the Germans, and the Yanks) are in for a multi-generational fight.

 

Child refugees in Germany are being radicalized in mosques, joining gangs, and roaming the streets with knives as young as eleven, according to a leading youth charity. The Christian-run organization Die Arche (The Ark), which operates 33 centers across Germany and supports over 7,000 children and young people from refugee and socially disadvantaged families, has issued a stark warning about the state of integration in the country.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1334302-german-child-refugee-charity-condemns-system-integration-has-failed/#comment-19114736

 

And if you peruse the unapproved sources, you'll find videos of concurrent "mostly peaceful protests" by Muslims carrying weapons.  But that doesn't support the globalist agenda...  So you won't see them unless you look past the MSM to get other views.

 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

46 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Yeah, tough to answer the question directly without getting the post deleted for linking to "unapproved sources", so my post looks very different than my first draft.

 

I contend that the fact the kid was born in the UK scares people even more than blaming a newcoming migrant.  It's an indication that this is going to be a multi-generational problem.  Kinda goes along with the German Charity throwing up their hands recently and declaring that "integration has failed".  So the Brits (and the Swedes, and the French, and the Germans, and the Yanks) are in for a multi-generational fight.

 

Child refugees in Germany are being radicalized in mosques, joining gangs, and roaming the streets with knives as young as eleven, according to a leading youth charity. The Christian-run organization Die Arche (The Ark), which operates 33 centers across Germany and supports over 7,000 children and young people from refugee and socially disadvantaged families, has issued a stark warning about the state of integration in the country.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1334302-german-child-refugee-charity-condemns-system-integration-has-failed/#comment-19114736

 

And if you peruse the unapproved sources, you'll find videos of concurrent "mostly peaceful protests" by Muslims carrying weapons.  But that doesn't support the globalist agenda...  So you won't see them unless you look past the MSM to get other views.

 

 

 

Statements are either true or not true.

A simple yes or no would suffice.

[youreavinalaff]

5 hours ago, thesetat2013 said:

From all the videos i saw of the riots.. No thuggery happened until police intervened. 

I am curious though. Why is it the reports claim a gathering of people they do not agree with who want to show how they think or feel about something into a riot that demands police intervention and creates even more hostility? 

If those same people were there chanting praising the government and the decisions made it would not have been with a police force vying to remove them causing a riot to happen. The news seems very biased in their reporting as well. 

You need to watch more videos. Try some from different sites. IE, not propaganda sites.

[StevieAus]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The association of the extreme right wing and football hooliganism is well established:

 

https://www.kent.ac.uk/anthropology-conservation/news/6875/the-relationship-between-football-hooligans-and-right-wing-politics

 

Very interesting,thanks.

[Patong2021]

16 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Do you really think these events are happening in the UK, the USA, Sweden, and all around the collective west in a vacuum?  Or rather, a series of vacuums where the same thing is happening all over, but completely independent from all the other places it's happening?

 

 

No. No one denies it either. Taxpayers and people in general including legitimate immigrants are fed up with the bogus refugees and economic migrants gaming the humanitarian aid system. What differentiates these people and the mob is that they express their positions through rational and responsible ways, legally and without looting, arson and violent assaults.

 

Unfortunately, what we are seeing here is an organized disinformation campaign by domestic political groups and foreign agents with an agenda. Neither cares about constructive change. Rather, they wish there to be social tension and violence in the streets. It is to the benefit of  some foreign nations to have the social fabric ripped asunder. A lack of social cohesion furthers their diabolical objectives. The recent rioting and looting had little to do with an autistic UK adolescent attacking and murdering, because such horrific crimes literally occur on a daily basis. Rather, it was an opportune time for the criminal element to come out and vandalize and loot and have a fun time, just as they do at sport events and some public social events.  I expect that it will be easy to identify many of the violent mob from CCTV images because they will have existing criminal records.

 

There is a  wise adage that holds that history repeats itself if we forget the past.  In the 1930's and 1940's the Nazis had a campaign of disinformation and rumor mongering intended to disrupt the UK. They were aided and abetted by local fifth columnists who shared their evil positions and who wanted to sabotage Great Britain. In the 1950's the Russian's started their organized  campaign to spread false information in the UK, reaching its zenith in the 1970's with its dominating influence over some unions and student groups. Today, the Russian influence is more nuanced and strategic, easily manipulating the gullible and exploiting underlying fears. They stoke a distrust of institutions and undermine the pillars of UK society, seeking to foment civil unrest. The overwhelming evidence of Russian disinformation is out there, with the most recent  example the dismantling by Dutch, Canadian and American intelligence services  of a sophisticated Russian scheme. The recent events are a mirror of  a strategy that was  shut down elsewhere. 

https://www.ic3.gov/Media/News/2024/240709.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

 

16 hours ago, impulse said:

Who gets to decide what constitutes misinformation?  Because even the so called "independent fact checkers" have a spotty record.  

 

Your claim of spotty record perhaps reflects the fact that some of what you believe to be true has been exposed as unsubstantiated or fabricated. It is difficult to admit to being conned and manipulated. That is why so many people continue to be conned by ponzi schemes and boiler room shills.

 

Edited August 5 by Patong2021

[Harsh Jones]

This is just another divide and conquer false flag by the dark agencies. Crisis actors. Some of these attacks don't even happen. They are fabricated. And all the left wing hand wringers in this thread are falling for it. And the right wingers are usually just mildly perplexed. The left seems to get more milage out of these false flags than the right does. 

 

Tell me this is always a coincidence.... Its not. I remember people pointing these things out to me years ago and I thought it was just madness and could never be true. But lets just say eventually they won the argument. 

 

BBC removes Children in Need video that starred Southport stabbing suspect

https://inews.co.uk/news/bbc-removes-children-in-need-video-starred-southport-stabbing-suspect-3207366

 

Orlando shooter Omar Mateen appeared in award-winning documentary about BP oil spill

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3643504/Orlando-shooter-Omar-Mateen-appeared-award-winning-documentary-BP-oil-spill-years-committed-massacre.html

 

 

Thomas Matthew Crooks appeared in a 2022 BlackRock ad

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/thomas-matthew-crooks-blackrock-ad-pulled/

Edited August 5 by Harsh Jones

[rocketboy2]

Oh look, those nice protesters in the uk.

The religion of peace, love and harmony.

 

Sorry the clip is restricted to youtube.

 

https://youtu.be/fSaWSTC-1uY

 

Edited August 5 by rocketboy2

[JonnyF]

All this far right nonsense is just a deflection. An excuse for the media to stop talking about the horrific murder of the young children by the horrible offspring of the immigrants and instead focus on people with genuine concerns about the violence and intolerance being imported into Britain. 

 

Far right? Yeah, right...

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

All this far right nonsense is just a deflection. An excuse for the media to stop talking about the horrific murder of the young children by the horrible offspring of the immigrants and instead focus on people with genuine concerns about the violence and intolerance being imported into Britain. 

 

Far right? Yeah, right...

 

 

Full blown gaslighting from you today Jonny.

 

Do you have a link to the source of the meme you’ve posted, so we can all see which particular fetid corner of the internet you ripped it from?

[BKKBike09]

On 8/4/2024 at 10:39 PM, youreavinalaff said:

There is a fundamental difference. Far right racists have extremist views.

 

Only a small minority of Muslims are extremists.

 

 

 

 

Actually there's a fundamental similarity, viz: 

 

'The general population includes small minorities of far right racists, and Muslims, both of which have extremist views".

 

[BKKBike09]

The UK government needs to take firm action on illegal immigration. The Tories promised it but did nothing. Legal migration is fine: welcoming people from other countries who can make a positive contribution to the UK and who are prepared to respect the UK and the cultural heritage of the majority, although saying this is probably enough to be deemed 'far-Right' by some.

 

Meanwhile all these economic migrants floating across the Channel have placed a significant extra burden on an already creaking asylum vetting system. Not good for genuine asylum seekers.

 

The majority of small boat arrivals claim asylum. In the year ending June 2023, 90% (36,169 of 40,386 arrivals) had an asylum claim recorded either as a main applicant or dependant, at the time of data extraction. Small boat arrivals accounted for over one-third (37%) of the total number of people claiming asylum in the UK in the year ending June 2023.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-june-2023/irregular-migration-to-the-uk-year-ending-june-2023#asylum-claims-from-small-boat-arrivals

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/irregular-migration-detailed-dataset-and-summary-tables

 

 

[Digitalbanana]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

All this far right nonsense is just a deflection. An excuse for the media to stop talking about the horrific murder of the young children by the horrible offspring of the immigrants and instead focus on people with genuine concerns about the violence and intolerance being imported into Britain. 

 

It's obvious some cannot get a grasp of the complex reality based on posts like this. Either that or they are simply trying to stir things up for no good. It's important to remember that the actions of one person do not define an entire group. Immigrants are people too, and many contribute positively to society. Instead of perpetuating harmful stereotypes and 'us vs. them' narratives as a racist might do, approach this issue with empathy and understanding, and acknowledge the complexity of the situation if complex situations are within your grasp.

[Harsh Jones]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Full blown gaslighting from you today Jonny.

 

Do you have a link to the source of the meme you’ve posted, so we can all see which particular fetid corner of the internet you ripped it from?

Look at this. He's accusing someone of gaslighting. And he wants to find the source of the meme just so he can "sources bro" him. 

 

Anyway you are being played. Like everyone is. This attack and the recent ones were instigated and staged by the dark agencies for their sordid aims. 

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Digitalbanana said:

 

It's obvious some cannot get a grasp of the complex reality based on posts like this. Either that or they are simply trying to stir things up for no good. It's important to remember that the actions of one person do not define an entire group. Immigrants are people too, and many contribute positively to society. Instead of perpetuating harmful stereotypes and 'us vs. them' narratives as a racist might do, approach this issue with empathy and understanding, and acknowledge the complexity of the situation if complex situations are within your grasp.

 

There is a difference between a one off event and patterns of behaviour. 

 

This was not a one off event. Violent crimes by immigrants is a trend.

 

Maybe you could save some of that empathy and understanding for the families of the children killed? That's where mine is. 

 

As for the childish race baiting, I don't care what nationality they are. And I am sure you know the difference between race and nationality, especially if you live in Britain.