The Looming Clash: Harris and Trump on the Precipice of a Historic Debate

[Social Media]

 

The Harris v. Trump debate is shaping up to be another pivotal moment in an already extraordinary campaign. As President Joe Biden's campaign faltered after a disastrous debate, Donald Trump may now be making a similar gamble by agreeing to a debate on ABC next month. His Democratic opponent, Vice President Kamala Harris, is gaining momentum, making the stakes even higher.

 

Trump’s decision to participate, along with his call for additional debates on NBC and Fox (which Harris has yet to agree to), underscores the evolving nature of this election. The former president, who prides himself on controlling the narrative, now finds himself overshadowed by Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, after a week of energetic campaigning. For Trump, this is a crushing new experience — he suddenly seems like yesterday's news.

 

As the September 10 debate approaches, the anticipation is building. Given the shortened timeline of the campaign, this debate could serve as a crucial turning point. Trump has already started his usual tactic of underestimating his opponent, this time targeting Harris. At a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, Trump belittled Harris, claiming she wasn’t as smart as Biden, a man he has long dismissed as lacking the mental acuity to serve. "She’s actually not as smart as he is. I don’t think he’s very smart either, by the way. I’m not a big fan of his brain," Trump remarked.

 

This debate will also be a significant test for Harris. While she has a mixed record in debates — showing strength early in her 2020 presidential campaign, but struggling in other instances — she has grown as a politician since then. Supporters are eager to see her use her skills as a former prosecutor to challenge the four-times indicted Trump. Harris, for her part, jabbed back at Trump’s decision to debate, expressing her readiness to engage and even suggesting a willingness to discuss a second debate. “I’m glad that he’s finally agreed to a debate on September 10. I’m looking forward to it, and I hope he shows up,” she said.

 

Trump, on the other hand, appears to be struggling to find his footing in a transformed race. Harris’ dynamic campaign has forced him to reassess his strategy, though he publicly denies making any changes. Despite trailing in recent polls, including a Marquette Law School poll showing Harris leading 52% to Trump’s 48%, Trump insists that he is leading and that no recalibration is necessary. His usual talking points — focused on open borders and immigrant crime — seem increasingly disconnected from the reality of the campaign, which has shifted dramatically in just a few weeks.

 

One of Trump’s biggest challenges is his inability to effectively communicate his arguments against Harris. While there are legitimate criticisms to be made, such as the economic struggles many Americans face, Trump seems more focused on personal grievances than on articulating a clear policy message. His recent press conference at Mar-a-Lago, which veered into a bizarre comparison of crowd sizes with Martin Luther King Jr., only highlighted his struggle to regain control of the narrative.

 

Moreover, Trump appears to be laying the groundwork to challenge the legitimacy of the election if he loses, falsely claiming that the Democratic Party’s switch of nominees was unconstitutional. This rhetoric, coming from a former president who attempted to overturn the 2020 election, is particularly concerning given the stakes of the upcoming election.

 

In contrast, the Harris campaign is capitalizing on Trump’s missteps, portraying his recent public appearances as signs of desperation. They’ve also highlighted his lack of campaigning in swing states, in stark contrast to Harris and Walz’s energetic tours. Trump’s return to fear-mongering, warning of a looming Great Depression and World War III if he isn’t elected, feels out of step with the more optimistic tone of the Harris campaign.

 

Despite Trump’s dire predictions, the current economic reality — with unemployment at 4.3% and solid economic growth — doesn’t support his apocalyptic vision. Nor do his warnings of global conflict align with the actual geopolitical situation, where, despite tensions, there is no credible threat of a third world war.

 

The rapid shift in the campaign’s atmosphere is remarkable. Just three weeks ago, Republicans left their convention in Milwaukee buoyed by Trump’s chances, especially after a defiant response to an assassination attempt. Now, however, Trump seems politically paralyzed, struggling to adapt to the new dynamics of the race. Yet, Trump has built his political career on seizing opportunities in moments of crisis, and it would be unwise to count him out entirely.

 

For now, Harris has managed to reinvigorate the Democratic campaign, turning what was a faltering race into a neck-and-neck contest. Her ability to maintain this momentum through the intense scrutiny of a national election will be crucial. The road to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency remains challenging, and while Harris has put some battleground states back in play, the outcome is far from certain.

 

Trump’s aides are trying to downplay Harris’ early success, insisting that her bounce in the polls was expected and that the fundamentals of the race remain unchanged. They believe that voters will ultimately favor a return to Trump’s economic policies over the Biden administration’s record. Trump himself remains confident, insisting that the "honeymoon period" for Harris will end soon.

 

Credit: CNN  2024-08-10

 

 

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[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

Trump insists that he is leading and that no recalibration is necessary. His usual talking points — focused on open borders and immigrant crime — seem increasingly disconnected from the reality of the campaign, which has shifted dramatically in just a few weeks.

Obviously the Harris handlers will attempt to move the conversation away from such as the border chaos, and inflation, but they are not going away, and all Trump has to do is keep reminding people of whom is responsible for it.

Trump needs to avoid getting trapped into nonsense topics that Harris likes- don't play her game, as if he does, he's doomed, IMO. Stick to issues that affect ordinary Americans.

[thaipo7]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Obviously the Harris handlers will attempt to move the conversation away from such as the border chaos, and inflation, but they are not going away, and all Trump has to do is keep reminding people of whom is responsible for it.

Trump needs to avoid getting trapped into nonsense topics that Harris likes- don't play her game, as if he does, he's doomed, IMO. Stick to issues that affect ordinary Americans.

So easy to see the Left Leaning author of the article.   

[Tug]

47 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Obviously the Harris handlers will attempt to move the conversation away from such as the border chaos, and inflation, but they are not going away, and all Trump has to do is keep reminding people of whom is responsible for it.

Trump needs to avoid getting trapped into nonsense topics that Harris likes- don't play her game, as if he does, he's doomed, IMO. Stick to issues that affect ordinary Americans.

I’m sure she will welcome the border and inflation lmao 🤣 obviously she will point out JUST WHO killed the STRONGEST immigration reform and funds to stem fentanyl and illegals in decades bipartisan no less im sure she will also point out trumps shivving in the back the real very conservative republican who went to bat to get it done lol 😆 oh yea!!Im also sure she will point out that inflation is a worldwide problem and our United States is getting the best results on the planet combatting it.so sure I’m sure she will be delighted to tell folks the FACTS as trump try’s to bs and lie his way through lol 😂!!

[nobodysfriend]

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

Trump appears to be laying the groundwork to challenge the legitimacy of the election if he loses,

 

3 hours ago, Social Media said:

This rhetoric, coming from a former president who attempted to overturn the 2020 election, is particularly concerning given the stakes of the upcoming election.

 

I doubt that it will be a peaceful transition of power if he does not win .

Need to prepare for that possibility .

[Thingamabob]

 It is a mystery to me why Harris has appointed a draft dodger and an advocate for tampons for men as her running mate.

[nobodysfriend]

1 hour ago, thaipo7 said:

So easy to see the Left Leaning author of the article.   

 

Extremist left , extremist right . left leaning , right leaning , center left , center right .

May be meet in the middle ?

The problem with the ' democratic system ' is , when one party manages to win elections with just a narrow margin , the other ( about ) half of voters wont feel themselves represented by the winning party .

That can be a lot of people ... Shouldn't they have their say as well in a newly formed government ?

For peace's sake ... Like that , only coalitions formed between the biggest participating parties would be truly democratic ...

And , I think the POTUS in the present system gets too much power to decide about critical events , alone .

May be , in the future , AI that considers the all the far reaching consequences of a POTUS's actions , can serve as a counseling control instance before too much damage is done ...?

Ok , there is the impeachment process ... but before really impeached , a POTUS gone crazy can inflict a whole lot of damage ...

I do not trust Trump .

He is a liar .

Edited August 10 by nobodysfriend

[MicroB]

 

 

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

 It is a mystery to me why Harris has appointed a draft dodger and an advocate for tampons for men as her running mate.

 

Isn't Donald Trump her opponent?

 

If you are referring to Tim Walz; the draft in the US ended in 1973 by President Nixon. In 1973, Tim Walz was 9 years old. Are you advocating that the US military needs to recruit child soldiers.

 

And looking Trump's running mate, the man currently named James Vance. He apparently had a tour of 6 months in Iraq in 2005. At the time, that wasn't a full tour; typically it was 14-19 months, later 12 months. Why did Vance/Hamel get special treatment in leaving early, when other Marines had to endure far longer.

 

He was a Marine photographer. What did he do there?

 

Well, some of the photos he took in the combat zone. Steel yourself. Its strong stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He doesn't appear to have stepped foot outside of Al Asad Airbase during his his entire truncated tour. The biggest risk he faced waspaper cuts.

 

He did 4 years service, and somehow only did 6 months soft duties deployment during all that time. From 2003-2010, my brother did 3 tours of Iraq and 2 in Afghanistan. A good friend of mine has done 22 year in the US Army Reserve, Nominally, he is a university professor, but he ended up 15 years deployed overseas, mostly Middle East. What connections did Chubby Vance/Hamel that allowed him to shirk his duty in return for a free university degree?

 

Not exacty how Marine photographers were portrayed in Full Metal Jacket

 

 

 

Tampon fact; now part of Russian combat first aid kit. You shove them into bullet holes.

 

 

[cncltd1973]

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

"She’s actually not as smart as he is. I don’t think he’s very smart either, by the way. I’m not a big fan of his brain," Trump remarked.

he knows he is stupid, so he tries to label everyone else as stupid as a distraction 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, Thingamabob said:

 It is a mystery to me why Harris has appointed a draft dodger and an advocate for tampons for men as her running mate.

Ok I will bite what magga nonsense is this boys and tampons conflation?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

Extremist left , extremist right . left leaning , right leaning , center left , center right .

May be meet in the middle ?

The problem with the ' democratic system ' is , when one party manages to win elections with just a narrow margin , the other ( about ) half of voters wont feel themselves represented by the winning party .

That can be a lot of people ... Shouldn't they have their say as well in a newly formed government ?

For peace's sake ... Like that , only coalitions formed between the biggest participating parties would be truly democratic ...

And , I think the POTUS in the present system gets too much power to decide about critical events , alone .

May be , in the future , AI that considers the all the far reaching consequences of a POTUS's actions , can serve as a counseling control instance before too much damage is done ...?

Ok , there is the impeachment process ... but before really impeached , a POTUS gone crazy can inflict a whole lot of damage ...

I do not trust Trump .

He is a liar .

Biden has been delivering for all America.

 

But then of course his win wasn’t a ‘narrow victory’.

[Luuk Chaai]

2 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

 It is a mystery to me why Harris has appointed a draft dodger and an advocate for tampons for men as her running mate.

Honey, can you stop on your way home and pick up some tampons for me ?

Greatest built in excuse to stop off for a beer with the guys ...

[HK MacPhooey]

3 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

I doubt that it will be a peaceful transition of power if he does not win .

Need to prepare for that possibility .

Or as bumbling Biden said "if he (Trump) wins... er... if he doesn't win"

[HK MacPhooey]

2 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

 

Isn't Donald Trump her opponent?

 

If you are referring to Tim Walz; the draft in the US ended in 1973 by President Nixon. In 1973, Tim Walz was 9 years old. Are you advocating that the US military needs to recruit child soldiers.

 

And looking Trump's running mate, the man currently named James Vance. He apparently had a tour of 6 months in Iraq in 2005. At the time, that wasn't a full tour; typically it was 14-19 months, later 12 months. Why did Vance/Hamel get special treatment in leaving early, when other Marines had to endure far longer.

 

He was a Marine photographer. What did he do there?

 

Well, some of the photos he took in the combat zone. Steel yourself. Its strong stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He doesn't appear to have stepped foot outside of Al Asad Airbase during his his entire truncated tour. The biggest risk he faced waspaper cuts.

 

He did 4 years service, and somehow only did 6 months soft duties deployment during all that time. From 2003-2010, my brother did 3 tours of Iraq and 2 in Afghanistan. A good friend of mine has done 22 year in the US Army Reserve, Nominally, he is a university professor, but he ended up 15 years deployed overseas, mostly Middle East. What connections did Chubby Vance/Hamel that allowed him to shirk his duty in return for a free university degree?

 

Not exacty how Marine photographers were portrayed in Full Metal Jacket

 

 

 

Tampon fact; now part of Russian combat first aid kit. You shove them into bullet holes.

 

 

Fire fight at the former Becton Power Station

[luckymitchell]

Does the op actualy write this themselves or are these copied from other sources?

[riclag]

9 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

 It is a mystery to me why Harris has appointed a draft dodger and an advocate for tampons for men as her running mate.

2 Social Justice Warriors  coddled the 2020 Summer of Love protests turned riots!

 

 

[riclag]

9 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

 

Isn't Donald Trump her opponent?

 

If you are referring to Tim Walz; the draft in the US ended in 1973 by President Nixon. In 1973, Tim Walz was 9 years old. Are you advocating that the US military needs to recruit child soldiers.

 

And looking Trump's running mate, the man currently named James Vance. He apparently had a tour of 6 months in Iraq in 2005. At the time, that wasn't a full tour; typically it was 14-19 months, later 12 months. Why did Vance/Hamel get special treatment in leaving early, when other Marines had to endure far longer.

 

He was a Marine photographer. What did he do there?

 

Well, some of the photos he took in the combat zone. Steel yourself. Its strong stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He doesn't appear to have stepped foot outside of Al Asad Airbase during his his entire truncated tour. The biggest risk he faced waspaper cuts.

 

He did 4 years service, and somehow only did 6 months soft duties deployment during all that time. From 2003-2010, my brother did 3 tours of Iraq and 2 in Afghanistan. A good friend of mine has done 22 year in the US Army Reserve, Nominally, he is a university professor, but he ended up 15 years deployed overseas, mostly Middle East. What connections did Chubby Vance/Hamel that allowed him to shirk his duty in return for a free university degree?

 

Not exacty how Marine photographers were portrayed in Full Metal Jacket

 

 

 

Tampon fact; now part of Russian combat first aid kit. You shove them into bullet holes.

 

 

Tampons in boys rooms in America are woke! There isnt a war in my country .

[JCauto]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Tampons in boys rooms in America are woke! There isnt a war in my country .

 

Keep on slingin'! The contrast between Trump's dark vision of America and Harris' sunny worldview is exactly the contrast we need. She'll be talking coherently and maturely about actual issues, Trump will rely on his usual fusillades of lies and insults. She'll have practiced some good jabs to get under his skin, and once those hit, you know DJT won't be able to keep his composure. What happened to his demands of Fox News or nothing? Desperation taking hold, now Don is hiding from everyone and holding rallies in Montana while Kamala and Walz are filling huge arenas to capacity. What a change in three weeks! Even you guys must be impressed, no?

[still kicking]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Tampons in boys rooms in America are woke! There isnt a war in my country .

Then why does everybody have guns?

[metisdead]

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[still kicking]

Donald Trump accuses Kamala Harris and Tim Walz of fake record | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

[Will B Good]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

Trump, on the other hand, appears to be struggling to find his footing in a transformed race.

 

 

That could be due to those damned bone spurs.

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

16 hours ago, Social Media said:

One of Trump’s biggest challenges is his inability to effectively communicate

 

 

Understatement of the year........555

 

People are known to take sharp objects to his rallies.

 

 

Edited August 10 by Will B Good

[Will B Good]

33 minutes ago, still kicking said:

Then why does everybody have guns?

 

 

Because it is my right.....and I'll shoot anyone who says it isn't......that's as about as good an argument as you'll get.

[stoner]

14 hours ago, Tug said:

funds to stem fentanyl

 

tried to discuss this before. they all take the wrong approach to this issue. democrat or republican. 

[stoner]

44 minutes ago, JCauto said:

you know DJT won't be able to keep his composure.

 

it all rests on this i think. he was able to do it with the last set up the way it was. he let biden become his own train wreck. 

45 minutes ago, JCauto said:

She'll be talking coherently and maturely about actual issues

 

you hope so. there are an awful lot of videos of her not being like that. time will tell if she can also keep her composure as well.

[stevenl]

Why is everything labeled historic, decisive, unique, of the utmost importance, etc, these days?

Rhetorical question.

[Cryingdick]

15 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

 

 

I doubt that it will be a peaceful transition of power if he does not win .

Need to prepare for that possibility .

I am beginning to think it won't be smooth if he does win either. What a mess. I could live with Kamala in the WH and the GOP holding the house and senate. God forbid either party gets all three. Are the rules the same as the first debate? If so it doesn't matters who hosts it

[Yagoda]

44 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Why is everything labeled historic, decisive, unique, of the utmost importance, etc, these days?

Rhetorical question.

If it bleeds, it leads

[Luuk Chaai]

18 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

Honey, can you stop on your way home and pick up some tampons for me ?

Greatest built in excuse to stop off for a beer with the guys ...

to the  "Confused person" ..    if you're in a bar with the guys drinking beer.....  eventually you will take a trip to the rest room

Well looky here..   a tampon vending machine right next to the hand dryer..    that save me a trip to Walmart and gives me more time for another beer ...

 

oh...  by the way ..     dumbest F***** idea yet !