Rising Temperatures Threaten Thailand's Economy, Tourism, and Future

[webfact]

 

Thailand emits less than 1% of global greenhouse gases but ranks among the top 10 countries most severely impacted by climate change. This stark reality poses significant concerns over the country’s economic stability and long-term viability of its tourism sector.

 

A 2021 study by Swiss Re Institute projected that Thailand's GDP could plummet by 43.6% by 2048 due to temperature increases of up to 3.2°C. This would have a profound impact on a country heavily reliant on agriculture, tourism, and fisheries.

 

The tourism industry, a cornerstone of Thailand's economy, faces substantial disruption. In the Andaman coast, shorter rainy seasons are expected, potentially extending the tourist season but exacerbating water shortages.

 

Conversely, the Gulf of Thailand faces increased rainfall, leading to extended rainy seasons and more intense coastal erosion. In northern provinces, a reduction in cool days could lessen the appeal to domestic tourists who seek cooler climates.

 

The risk to natural attractions is also escalating. National parks and forests could see higher wildfire risks due to drier and hotter conditions.

 

The eastern region is forecasted to experience the highest temperatures nationwide. Meanwhile, Bangkok and its surrounding areas face severe flooding risks due to increased rainfall and obstructed water flows, putting communities and infrastructure at considerable risk.

 

Thailand has committed to ambitious climate goals: achieving carbon neutrality by 2050 and net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2065, as declared by then-PM Prayut Chan-o-cha at the 2021 UN Climate Conference in Glasgow. Yet, experts criticize the country’s approach, noting that plans remain vague and lack robust incentives for adaptation, reported Prof Mingsarn Kaosa-ard in The Nation.

 

According to the Thailand Development Research Institute (TDRI), state policy clarity, continuity, and effective standard-setting are pivotal yet uncertain factors. Effective management requires serious enforcement, integration across sectors, and investment in environmental technology and infrastructure.

 

Additionally, the unpredictability of climate effects varies by region, disproportionately affecting low-income groups who have fewer resources to relocate. Decentralised climate management, with local governments taking active roles, may offer more tailored and effective solutions.

 

Ultimately, addressing global warming in Thailand calls for more than state policies; it demands significant shifts in consumer behaviour to drive market changes towards sustainability. Reducing energy consumption, proper waste disposal, and sustainable living practices are actionable steps that individuals can take immediately.

 

With coordinated efforts from both governance and the public, Thailand can enhance its resilience to climate impacts and move closer to its environmental targets.

 

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-- 2024-08-10

 

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[JoePai]

experts criticize the country’s approach, noting that plans remain vague and lack robust incentives for adaptation

 

yep that sums up Thailand perfectly 

[JimHuaHin]

This will attract criticism, but ...

 

Firstly, the Earth is about 4.5 billions years old, has had an atmosphere for about 2-3 billion years, during which time the climate has been constantly changing.  What is of concern now is the very rapid rate of climate change to human-induced global warming (we are referring changes over decades, not millions of years).

 

Secondly, about 3-4 decades ago there were a few articles in the Thai media about Bangkok "sinking"; articles based on Thai academic research which has been largely ignored.  At least Indonesia now has firm plans to move its capital city, which is also "sinking".  In Thailand, mai pen rai.

 

Finally, for the last 1-2 decades there have been numerous reports of the potential impact of global warming on global economies and communities; reports that have alarmed some and been largely ignored by the powers-that-be.  Some of these reports, parts of which I have read, detail potential changes in Thai weather patterns and their social and economic impact.  Again, ignored by the powers that be.

 

If NASA discovers an asteroid/comet what will directly impact earth in the year 2100, say, global governments would respond.  But Earth-destroying global warming, not my problem.

[VincentRJ]

Okay! I just checked the 'World Data info' for the history of extreme weather events in Thailand, and here are the results below.
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/thailand/climate.php#:~:text=Temperature records of the last,°C was reported here

 

1. With 8.90 hours of sunshine per day in February 2024, there was more sunshine than in any February in the last 17 years (9.10 hours in 2007).

 

2. With just 5.25 liters of precipitation in 2023, August was drier than it had been for 72 years (4.59 l/m² in 1951).

 

3. With only 13.67 days of rain, it rained less in August 2023 than it has for 14 years (13.21 days in 2009).

 

4. At 29.39°C, July 2023 was the warmest July in 36 years (29.46°C in 1987).

 

5. At 30.86°C, May 2023 was the warmest May in 31 years (30.93°C in 1992).

 

6. With just 0.38 liters of precipitation in 2023, March was drier than it had been for 31 years (0.05 l/m² in 1992).

 

The 'climate change alarmists' do not seem to understand that reports of an extreme weather event that is the worst in 20 years, or 50 years or 100 years, is not evidence of human-caused climate change. In fact, such reports would suggest that these temporary changes in weather patterns are mostly natural effects that occur without the effects of human activity.

[ikke1959]

Ok we have read it and that's it.. next.......

That is Thai mentality.. Every year flooding and what is been done in the past year to try to control it??? nothing.

Air pollution what is done or will be done? nothing wait for the rainy season and the problem is solved partly again.

Less pollution by the old cars and trucks, the blacksmoke vehicles and investment in electric vehicles and charge points?? nothing...

Education of people not to use a motorcycle for a few hunderd metres?? nothing

and the list can go on.. Yes Thailand is very concerned about the  environment but as long as it cost no money or only bring money in their pockets.. All the rest are words to keep the people quite

[MarkBR]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

 

Thailand emits less than 1% of global greenhouse gases but ranks among the top 10 countries most severely impacted by climate change. This stark reality poses significant concerns over the country’s economic stability and long-term viability of its tourism sector.

 

A 2021 study by Swiss Re Institute projected that Thailand's GDP could plummet by 43.6% by 2048 due to temperature increases of up to 3.2°C. This would have a profound impact on a country heavily reliant on agriculture, tourism, and fisheries.

 

The tourism industry, a cornerstone of Thailand's economy, faces substantial disruption. In the Andaman coast, shorter rainy seasons are expected, potentially extending the tourist season but exacerbating water shortages.

 

Conversely, the Gulf of Thailand faces increased rainfall, leading to extended rainy seasons and more intense coastal erosion. In northern provinces, a reduction in cool days could lessen the appeal to domestic tourists who seek cooler climates.

 

The risk to natural attractions is also escalating. National parks and forests could see higher wildfire risks due to drier and hotter conditions.

 

The eastern region is forecasted to experience the highest temperatures nationwide. Meanwhile, Bangkok and its surrounding areas face severe flooding risks due to increased rainfall and obstructed water flows, putting communities and infrastructure at considerable risk.

 

Thailand has committed to ambitious climate goals: achieving carbon neutrality by 2050 and net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2065, as declared by then-PM Prayut Chan-o-cha at the 2021 UN Climate Conference in Glasgow. Yet, experts criticize the country’s approach, noting that plans remain vague and lack robust incentives for adaptation, reported Prof Mingsarn Kaosa-ard in The Nation.

 

According to the Thailand Development Research Institute (TDRI), state policy clarity, continuity, and effective standard-setting are pivotal yet uncertain factors. Effective management requires serious enforcement, integration across sectors, and investment in environmental technology and infrastructure.

 

Additionally, the unpredictability of climate effects varies by region, disproportionately affecting low-income groups who have fewer resources to relocate. Decentralised climate management, with local governments taking active roles, may offer more tailored and effective solutions.

 

Ultimately, addressing global warming in Thailand calls for more than state policies; it demands significant shifts in consumer behaviour to drive market changes towards sustainability. Reducing energy consumption, proper waste disposal, and sustainable living practices are actionable steps that individuals can take immediately.

 

With coordinated efforts from both governance and the public, Thailand can enhance its resilience to climate impacts and move closer to its environmental targets.

 

TOP: A burnt field in Mae Fa Luang DIstrict and fire warning signs. Picture courtesy: Wikipedia

 

-- 2024-08-10

 

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When warming temperatures (average & extreme maxima) affect rice flowering (causes flower abortion) then Thais will panic.

[connda]

2 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

This will attract criticism, but ...

 

Firstly, the Earth is about 4.5 billions years old, has had an atmosphere for about 2-3 billion years, during which time the climate has been constantly changing.  What is of concern now is the very rapid rate of climate change to human-induced global warming (we are referring changes over decades, not millions of years).

 

Secondly, about 3-4 decades ago there were a few articles in the Thai media about Bangkok "sinking"; articles based on Thai academic research which has been largely ignored.  At least Indonesia now has firm plans to move its capital city, which is also "sinking".  In Thailand, mai pen rai.

 

Finally, for the last 1-2 decades there have been numerous reports of the potential impact of global warming on global economies and communities; reports that have alarmed some and been largely ignored by the powers-that-be.  Some of these reports, parts of which I have read, detail potential changes in Thai weather patterns and their social and economic impact.  Again, ignored by the powers that be.

 

If NASA discovers an asteroid/comet what will directly impact earth in the year 2100, say, global governments would respond.  But Earth-destroying global warming, not my problem.

Sorry - you are making sense and dealing with the Earth's atmosphere over it's 4 billion year lifespan.  That's not allowed.  You are only allowed to look at the last 50 years. And never, ever look at ice-core samples. Oh - and don't question why the climate catastrophes promised "in the next 5 years" for over 25 years never seem to materialize.  Lastly - if the oceans are rising - why does Al Gore own beach front property.  Why?  It's a sham.  Heating and cooling cycles are dependent on the solar activity.  These cycles happen over centuries and millennia and have been since the creation of this planet.  "Oh my, the glaciers in the Alps are melting."  Yep - and they have melted before within the last millennia.  "Oh my, the ocean currents are slowing."  Yep - that's what they do during heating periods.  Then those change ocean current set up the conditions for global cooling.  "Oh my - Greenland glaciers are melting."  Yep - and they have before and the Vikings set up farming colonies in Greenland - then it got cold again and good-bye Vikings. 
When the global cooling cycle hits, well hear about "man-made global cooling" and how we need to make radical changes by giving our money to climate corporations and government who promise to stop it before the Ice Age sets in. 

The entire climate crisis is run by people with the morals and greed of side-show carnies.  And a generation of fools completely buy into the con game.

[connda]

2 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

Okay! I just checked the 'World Data info' for the history of extreme weather events in Thailand, and here are the results below.
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/thailand/climate.php#:~:text=Temperature records of the last,°C was reported here

 

1. With 8.90 hours of sunshine per day in February 2024, there was more sunshine than in any February in the last 17 years (9.10 hours in 2007).

 

2. With just 5.25 liters of precipitation in 2023, August was drier than it had been for 72 years (4.59 l/m² in 1951).

 

3. With only 13.67 days of rain, it rained less in August 2023 than it has for 14 years (13.21 days in 2009).

 

4. At 29.39°C, July 2023 was the warmest July in 36 years (29.46°C in 1987).

 

5. At 30.86°C, May 2023 was the warmest May in 31 years (30.93°C in 1992).

 

6. With just 0.38 liters of precipitation in 2023, March was drier than it had been for 31 years (0.05 l/m² in 1992).

 

The 'climate change alarmists' do not seem to understand that reports of an extreme weather event that is the worst in 20 years, or 50 years or 100 years, is not evidence of human-caused climate change. In fact, such reports would suggest that these temporary changes in weather patterns are mostly natural effects that occur without the effects of human activity.

Like I said - looking at ice core samples and tree rings from extremely old growth forests and climate rings in ancient fossilized trees is verboten.  Why - because they tell stories that don't match the climate con game narratives.
 

What is "Net Zero?"  Net Zero is how you usher in global Neo-Feudalism and austerity on a scale that we haven't seen since the Communist failed experiments in collectivism in Russia and China - and it will yield the same results.  A lot of starved and dead people in the peasant classes who are considered to be useless eaters. 

[connda]

3 hours ago, JimHuaHin said:

But Earth-destroying global warming, not my problem.

Because Earth-destroying global warming is a fallacy.  It belies scientific data that is available regarding extremely long-term trends in the Earth's warming and cooling. 

You people believe that Al Gore and friend made a feature movie, An Inconvenient Truth, because they are philanthropists?  No - they made the movie because they had massive positions in the brand new Chicago Climate Exchange selling "carbon offsets" and the alarmism made him and his partners "Blood and Gore" a few hundred million USD.  It's in the public domain people - stop being ignorant.  Instead of gluing yourselves to highways and vandalizing works of art with orange paint - try educating yourselves about the nature of the climate confidence game.

Here's the background on Gore and his movie and his companies which leveraged public fear into profits.  Wake up people. Stop being fools. And he's doubled down and at it again.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11/03/blood-and-gore-making-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/

[connda]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Ultimately, addressing global warming in Thailand calls for more than state policies; it demands significant shifts in consumer behaviour to drive market changes towards sustainability. Reducing energy consumption, proper waste disposal, and sustainable living practices are actionable steps that individuals can take immediately.

Ultimately, the commoners and general public will be forced into extreme austerity and poverty while "Climate Corporations" with the help of global governments literally rape the global population.  It will make Communism in the early 20th century look like a walk in the park.

[thaipo7]

I am sure all the information given buy the experts is accurate.  Look at all the other past predictions.

[ourmanflint]

1 hour ago, connda said:

Because Earth-destroying global warming is a fallacy.  It belies scientific data that is available regarding extremely long-term trends in the Earth's warming and cooling. 

You people believe that Al Gore and friend made a feature movie, An Inconvenient Truth, because they are philanthropists?  No - they made the movie because they had massive positions in the brand new Chicago Climate Exchange selling "carbon offsets" and the alarmism made him and his partners "Blood and Gore" a few hundred million USD.  It's in the public domain people - stop being ignorant.  Instead of gluing yourselves to highways and vandalizing works of art with orange paint - try educating yourselves about the nature of the climate confidence game.

Here's the background on Gore and his movie and his companies which leveraged public fear into profits.  Wake up people. Stop being fools. And he's doubled down and at it again.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/11/03/blood-and-gore-making-a-killing-on-anti-carbon-investment-hype/

A flat earther emerges. What complete drivel. Climate change is real and is happening now

[impulse]

18 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

A flat earther emerges. What complete drivel. Climate change is real and is happening now

 

And it was happening 1,000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago, and 100,000 years ago.

 

[mfd101]

17 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

Climate change is real and is happening now

Yes but the issue is: What's causing it?

 

When you look at climate variation just over the last 2000 years, there does seem to be PLENTY of room for honest doubt about the degree to which industrialisation over the last 250 years is a major cause.

[dundas]

I remember reading an article on climate change back in the 1980s --probably in Scientific American, but I can't remember exactly where . The kinds of weather events (more extremes, in essence) predicted back then is what we are experiencing now. 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, dundas said:

I remember reading an article on climate change back in the 1980s --probably in Scientific American, but I can't remember exactly where . The kinds of weather events (more extremes, in essence) predicted back then is what we are experiencing now. 

 

100%.....Climate scientists simply didn't have a voice back then....but they already knew what was coming.

[Thingamabob]

I have no idea whether or not we are experiencing accelerated climate change as a result of human activity. All I can say is today, at Ratchayothin in Bangkok, at 1300hrs, it's damned hot.

[hotchilli]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

This stark reality poses significant concerns over the country’s economic stability and long-term viability of its tourism sector.

Thailand has a lot more than the climate to worry about.

[HK MacPhooey]

2 hours ago, connda said:

Sorry - you are making sense and dealing with the Earth's atmosphere over it's 4 billion year lifespan.  That's not allowed.  You are only allowed to look at the last 50 years. And never, ever look at ice-core samples. Oh - and don't question why the climate catastrophes promised "in the next 5 years" for over 25 years never seem to materialize.  Lastly - if the oceans are rising - why does Al Gore own beach front property.  Why?  It's a sham.  Heating and cooling cycles are dependent on the solar activity.  These cycles happen over centuries and millennia and have been since the creation of this planet.  "Oh my, the glaciers in the Alps are melting."  Yep - and they have melted before within the last millennia.  "Oh my, the ocean currents are slowing."  Yep - that's what they do during heating periods.  Then those change ocean current set up the conditions for global cooling.  "Oh my - Greenland glaciers are melting."  Yep - and they have before and the Vikings set up farming colonies in Greenland - then it got cold again and good-bye Vikings. 
When the global cooling cycle hits, well hear about "man-made global cooling" and how we need to make radical changes by giving our money to climate corporations and government who promise to stop it before the Ice Age sets in. 

The entire climate crisis is run by people with the morals and greed of side-show carnies.  And a generation of fools completely buy into the con game.

Michael Heseltine is a prime example of the greed associated with the 'climate hoax'. He's making millions off the British tax payer from wind turbines on his vast amount of land 

[Photoguy21]

Temperature fluctuations have been around ever since records were kept and before. Governments are blaming the population for temperature rise so maybe they can explain why the ice age ended when the world population was tiny.

[Will B Good]

28 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And it was happening 1,000 years ago, and 10,000 years ago, and 100,000 years ago.

 

 Your right one huge hoax......

 

The Industrial Revolution, which began in the late 18th century, is widely regarded as a pivotal period in human history that initiated significant changes in technology, society, and the environment. Key pieces of evidence linking the Industrial Revolution to the onset of climate change include:

 

1. Dramatic Increase in Greenhouse Gas Emissions

 

• Carbon Dioxide (CO₂) Levels: The burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, oil, and natural gas, became widespread during the Industrial Revolution. This led to a significant increase in carbon dioxide emissions. Ice core samples and atmospheric measurements show a sharp rise in CO₂ levels starting in the late 18th century, corresponding with the onset of industrialization.

• Methane and Nitrous Oxide: Alongside CO₂, methane (from agriculture, livestock, and fossil fuel extraction) and nitrous oxide (from agricultural practices) also began to increase during this period, further contributing to the greenhouse effect.

 

2. Global Temperature Rise

 

• Temperature Records: Historical temperature records show a consistent increase in global temperatures beginning around the time of the Industrial Revolution. This rise in temperature is closely correlated with the increased concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

• Paleoclimate Data: Proxy data, such as tree rings, ice cores, and sediment layers, indicate that the Earth’s climate was relatively stable for thousands of years before the Industrial Revolution. The sharp rise in global temperatures since the 19th century is unprecedented in this context.

 

3. Deforestation and Land-Use Changes

 

• Forest Clearing: The Industrial Revolution saw large-scale deforestation to clear land for agriculture, mining, and urban development. This deforestation reduced the planet’s capacity to absorb CO₂, exacerbating the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

• Agricultural Expansion: The expansion of agriculture to feed growing populations led to significant land-use changes. These changes included the draining of wetlands, plowing of prairies, and the cultivation of new lands, which released stored carbon into the atmosphere.

 

4. Ocean Acidification

 

• Increased CO₂ Absorption by Oceans: The oceans absorb a significant portion of the CO₂ emitted into the atmosphere. Since the Industrial Revolution, the increased CO₂ levels have led to higher acidity in the oceans, a process known as ocean acidification. This has had detrimental effects on marine life, particularly organisms that rely on calcium carbonate, like corals and shellfish.

 

5. Scientific Studies and Climate Models

 

• Attribution Studies: Modern climate science has developed models that can attribute the observed changes in climate to specific causes. These models consistently show that the increase in greenhouse gases from human activities, which began during the Industrial Revolution, is the primary driver of the current trend in global warming.

• Historical Records and Analysis: Studies analyzing historical records, such as industrial production data, coal consumption, and population growth, show a clear link between industrial activities and the increase in greenhouse gas emissions.

 

6. Changes in the Cryosphere

 

• Glacial Retreat: Glaciers around the world began retreating at an accelerated rate during the 19th century. This is largely attributed to the warming climate caused by increased greenhouse gas emissions since the Industrial Revolution.

• Polar Ice Melt: The melting of polar ice caps, particularly in the Arctic, has been observed to correlate with the industrial era’s onset and the associated rise in global temperatures.

 

7. Economic and Technological Drivers

 

• Mass Production and Consumption: The shift to mass production and the consumption of goods during the Industrial Revolution required vast amounts of energy, primarily from fossil fuels. This created a feedback loop of increased energy use and emissions, which continues to drive climate change today.

 

These pieces of evidence collectively point to the Industrial Revolution as the starting point for the significant anthropogenic impact on the global climate, leading to the current challenges of climate change.

[impulse]

16 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

6 hours ago, webfact said:

This stark reality poses significant concerns over the country’s economic stability and long-term viability of its tourism sector.

Thailand has a lot more than the climate to worry about.

 

May as well spend money on the problems that they can affect.  With 1% (+/-) of the world's GDP, Thailand could go back to wood huts and walking and it won't make one iota of difference to the earth.  Which puts them in the enviable position, if they choose, to let other countries decimate their economies.

 

I'd suggest improving wastewater treatment and trash collection.  Those would have an immediate positive affect on the quality of life for everyone in Thailand, tourists included.  And absolutely no disagreement about "the science" behind it.  

 

[koolkarl]

Along with a political system that denies the people of Thailand, the man and party they already voted for and a baht that is artificially way too strong.

[RichardColeman]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Thailand emits less than 1% of global greenhouse gases but ranks among the top 10 countries most severely impacted by climate change.

Can some explain what an increase of 60 million chinese tourists will do to travel emissions, local water consumption, demand on electric, sewage demand and mass destruction of sealife to Thailand 

[Enoon]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 Your right one huge hoax......

 

The Industrial Revolution, which began in the late 18th century, is widely regarded as a pivotal period in human history that initiated significant changes in technology, society, and the environment. Key pieces of evidence linking the Industrial Revolution to the onset of climate change include:

 

1. Dramatic Increase in Greenhouse Gas Emissions

 

• Carbon Dioxide (CO₂) Levels: The burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, oil, and natural gas, became widespread during the Industrial Revolution. This led to a significant increase in carbon dioxide emissions. Ice core samples and atmospheric measurements show a sharp rise in CO₂ levels starting in the late 18th century, corresponding with the onset of industrialization.

• Methane and Nitrous Oxide: Alongside CO₂, methane (from agriculture, livestock, and fossil fuel extraction) and nitrous oxide (from agricultural practices) also began to increase during this period, further contributing to the greenhouse effect.

 

2. Global Temperature Rise

 

• Temperature Records: Historical temperature records show a consistent increase in global temperatures beginning around the time of the Industrial Revolution. This rise in temperature is closely correlated with the increased concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

• Paleoclimate Data: Proxy data, such as tree rings, ice cores, and sediment layers, indicate that the Earth’s climate was relatively stable for thousands of years before the Industrial Revolution. The sharp rise in global temperatures since the 19th century is unprecedented in this context.

 

3. Deforestation and Land-Use Changes

 

• Forest Clearing: The Industrial Revolution saw large-scale deforestation to clear land for agriculture, mining, and urban development. This deforestation reduced the planet’s capacity to absorb CO₂, exacerbating the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

• Agricultural Expansion: The expansion of agriculture to feed growing populations led to significant land-use changes. These changes included the draining of wetlands, plowing of prairies, and the cultivation of new lands, which released stored carbon into the atmosphere.

 

4. Ocean Acidification

 

• Increased CO₂ Absorption by Oceans: The oceans absorb a significant portion of the CO₂ emitted into the atmosphere. Since the Industrial Revolution, the increased CO₂ levels have led to higher acidity in the oceans, a process known as ocean acidification. This has had detrimental effects on marine life, particularly organisms that rely on calcium carbonate, like corals and shellfish.

 

5. Scientific Studies and Climate Models

 

• Attribution Studies: Modern climate science has developed models that can attribute the observed changes in climate to specific causes. These models consistently show that the increase in greenhouse gases from human activities, which began during the Industrial Revolution, is the primary driver of the current trend in global warming.

• Historical Records and Analysis: Studies analyzing historical records, such as industrial production data, coal consumption, and population growth, show a clear link between industrial activities and the increase in greenhouse gas emissions.

 

6. Changes in the Cryosphere

 

• Glacial Retreat: Glaciers around the world began retreating at an accelerated rate during the 19th century. This is largely attributed to the warming climate caused by increased greenhouse gas emissions since the Industrial Revolution.

• Polar Ice Melt: The melting of polar ice caps, particularly in the Arctic, has been observed to correlate with the industrial era’s onset and the associated rise in global temperatures.

 

7. Economic and Technological Drivers

 

• Mass Production and Consumption: The shift to mass production and the consumption of goods during the Industrial Revolution required vast amounts of energy, primarily from fossil fuels. This created a feedback loop of increased energy use and emissions, which continues to drive climate change today.

 

These pieces of evidence collectively point to the Industrial Revolution as the starting point for the significant anthropogenic impact on the global climate, leading to the current challenges of climate change.

 

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink,

 

You can take a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.

 

These people are not driven by a need to understand what is happening around them.

 

They are driven by prejudice, emotion, and real hardcore ignorance and "million year mantra" stupidity.

 

Don't waste your time with them.

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, Enoon said:

 

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink,

 

You can take a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think.

 

These people are not driven by a need to understand what is happening around them.

 

They are driven by prejudice, emotion, and real hardcore ignorance and "million year mantra" stupidity.

 

Don't waste your time with them.

 

 

 

 

Good point, well made.

 

Just to add to your lines (you may know it)...

 

You can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think.

[Cory1848]

8 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

Okay! I just checked the 'World Data info' for the history of extreme weather events in Thailand, and here are the results below.
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/thailand/climate.php#:~:text=Temperature records of the last,°C was reported here

 

...

 

The 'climate change alarmists' do not seem to understand that reports of an extreme weather event that is the worst in 20 years, or 50 years or 100 years, is not evidence of human-caused climate change. In fact, such reports would suggest that these temporary changes in weather patterns are mostly natural effects that occur without the effects of human activity.

What “climate change deniers” do not seem to understand is that their own so-called “research” is laughable in the face of the overwhelming consensus among actual climate scientists that current climate change is very much caused by human activity. If you are not a climate scientist, whatever you may have to say on the matter is immaterial.

[newbee2022]

8 hours ago, VincentRJ said:

Okay! I just checked the 'World Data info' for the history of extreme weather events in Thailand, and here are the results below.
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/thailand/climate.php#:~:text=Temperature records of the last,°C was reported here

 

1. With 8.90 hours of sunshine per day in February 2024, there was more sunshine than in any February in the last 17 years (9.10 hours in 2007).

 

2. With just 5.25 liters of precipitation in 2023, August was drier than it had been for 72 years (4.59 l/m² in 1951).

 

3. With only 13.67 days of rain, it rained less in August 2023 than it has for 14 years (13.21 days in 2009).

 

4. At 29.39°C, July 2023 was the warmest July in 36 years (29.46°C in 1987).

 

5. At 30.86°C, May 2023 was the warmest May in 31 years (30.93°C in 1992).

 

6. With just 0.38 liters of precipitation in 2023, March was drier than it had been for 31 years (0.05 l/m² in 1992).

 

The 'climate change alarmists' do not seem to understand that reports of an extreme weather event that is the worst in 20 years, or 50 years or 100 years, is not evidence of human-caused climate change. In fact, such reports would suggest that these temporary changes in weather patterns are mostly natural effects that occur without the effects of human activity.

Even if I would follow your expertise it's a fact that the rapid incline of temperature is made by humans..

[VincentRJ]

2 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

What “climate change deniers” do not seem to understand is that their own so-called “research” is laughable in the face of the overwhelming consensus among actual climate scientists that current climate change is very much caused by human activity. If you are not a climate scientist, whatever you may have to say on the matter is immaterial.

A 'climate change denier' is a person who is so ignorant that he/she doesn't understand that climate is always changing and is never static. Over any chosen period, some parts of the world become slightly warmer, whilst other parts become slightly cooler. Some parts will become wetter, whilst other parts will become drier, and so on.

 

A 'climate change denier' is also someone who doesn't understand that climate change is a chaotic, non-linear system with a multitude of contributing factors which cannot be accurately measured.
Here's a relevant quote from Working Group 1 section of an IPCC report. 
 

"The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible." 

 

Can you show me actual evidence for the 'overwhelming consensus among actual climate scientists' that the current climate change is very much caused by human activity?

 

Science is not based upon consensus, but on evidence and data. Most journalists and politicians don't even seem to understand the difference between climate and weather, and cause and effect. How often have you read or heard on the media that a particular extreme weather event was caused by climate change. Climate Change is an effect, as a result of numerous influences, not a cause.

[rocketboy2]

Global warming.

is very big business., Money, Money, Money.

Swim against the flow,  or have a different opinion, and you get no money.

 

Money makes the world go round, The world go round, The world go round.

 

Nice to see the Eco warrior's of AN. back slapping here.

But they forget there comments,  on other threads,  about trips back to there home lands or holidays to other lands.

Also  throwing away perfectly good ICE cars,  to buy an EV.

Go there. girls.  Eco warriors.

Please put your heads in the gas oven tonight and save yourselves the trouble of it all.