Curing Alcoholic people

[georgegeorgia]

Earlier this year I "discontinued" if that's the right word and please don't quote me on that....but I discontinued a friendship with a person I have known the last 10 years .

Actually he was a former tenant of mine .

He was a drinker and used to go to Bali every 3 months to get sloshed drunk.

Back in January he ended up in hospital ( in Australia) after getting knocked out walking home drunk 

 

He was referred to a group called AA , apparently stands for Alcoholics Anonymous 

 

He rang me one Sunday morning said could I walk there with him ,it was his very first visit 

I did that ...he went in to the group who I saw were shaking their hands alcohol shake ....shake ..shake hands 

 

After that I "discontinued" yes same word ... "discontinued" our friendship 

 

I saw him yesterday he knocked on my door 🚪 

He was healed by AA .

AA who ?

A worldwide group called Alcohol Anonymous 

Refused to touch a drop since he said 

 

He looked scared and fearful everytime I asked him about the AA meeting, refused to elaborate 

 

His eyes were scared ,he wouldn't talk about it.

 

What are they scaring people in this AA group and saying ?

 

Can we cure alcoholicm?

Is it a disease ?

Right now I'm crying in sadness at my friends cure and his heal from the dangers the mysterious world of drinking 🍾🍾

Crying in joy ...crying in his sadness or mysterious reasons on what this "group" did to make him "healed" 

 

Thankyou for your service 🙏 

[Terrance8812]

You should definitely check yourself into AA as well. 

[georgegeorgia]

Yes !

I emailed the Group leader of this particular AA meeting 

I asked him what are you saying to people to scare them

 

He emailed back saying I was welcome to attend a Co dependant meeting whatever that was 

I refused 

 

We must cure the alcohol and even bring in Sharia Law if that helps 

[SAFETY FIRST]

46 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

Can we cure alcoholicm?

Is it a disease ?

It's in the genes, these weak people are not wired up correctly, birth defects. 

 

It's how we are made, this weakness is handed down from your parents. 

 

Nature loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. 

 

What you should be doing is modifying the DNA ladder before birth. 

 

I'm one of the lucky ones, good genes. 

 

The only addiction I have is beautiful, Thai women. 

 

 

[stoner]

3 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It's in the genes, these weak people are not wired up correctly, birth defects. 

 

It's how we are made, it's handed down from your parents. 

 

What you should be doing is modifying the DNA ladder before birth. 

 

I'm one of the lucky ones, good genes. 

 

 

 

what about everyone addicted to social media. is that in their genes and passed down through dna too ? 

[SAFETY FIRST]

6 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

what about everyone addicted to social media. is that in their genes and passed down through dna too ? 

This is a mental illness.

 

Yes, it can be corrected through DNA modification. 

 

[stoner]

1 minute ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

This is a mental illness, yes it can be corrected through DNA modification. 

 

 

ahhhh ok. so they all just suddenly obtained this mental illness. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

3 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

ahhhh ok. so they all just suddenly obtained this mental illness. 

If you say so. 

 

[georgegeorgia]

15 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

It's in the genes, these weak people are not wired up correctly, birth defects. 

 

It's how we are made, this weakness is handed down from your parents. 

 

Nature loads the gun, environment pulls the trigger. 

 

What you should be doing is modifying the DNA ladder before birth. 

 

I'm one of the lucky ones, good genes. 

 

The only addiction I have is beautiful, Thai women. 

 

 

You have a point, although many may be offended by the way you blatantly said it....and I used that word "blatantly" because I saw someone else write it,I have no idea what it means 

 

Are these people that turn to alcohol "weak" or are they going thru a difficult time!

What is alcohol doing to them?

 

[stoner]

5 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

If you say so. 

 

 

It was you who said so. Please go ahead and show me where Internet addiction is in billions of humans dna.

[stoner]

7 minutes ago, georgegeorgia said:

although many may be offended by the way you blatantly said it

 

it's the only part i agree with. its weakness that's it. everything else is bs. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

2 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

It was you who said so. 

 

Where did I say that? 

 

 

10 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

14 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

ahhhh ok. so they all just suddenly obtained this mental illness. 

If you say so

 

Have you got an illness? 

 

[stoner]

9 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

 

Where did I say that? 

 

 

 

Have you got an illness? 

 

 

no.  i make a choice. and my presence is far far less than the average person. wrong one to try and make an example with i'm afraid. 

 

 

[georgegeorgia]

We of course can't blatantly blame people for bring "weak" or alleging they are because they turn to alcohol.

Why? I have no idea why they turn to the bottle 

Stress ? 

[gargamon]

Alcoholism is a disease like being fat is a disease. Merely a mental crutch to make the afflicted person feel better.

[SAFETY FIRST]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

 

Are these people that turn to alcohol "weak" or are they going thru a difficult time!

What is alcohol doing to them?

 

We all go through difficult times in life. 

 

Life wasn't meant to be easy. 

 

[save the frogs]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

What is alcohol doing to them?

numbing the pain

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, georgegeorgia said:

You have a point, although many may be offended by the way you blatantly said it....and I used that word "blatantly" because I saw someone else write it,I have no idea what it means 

 

Are these people that turn to alcohol "weak" or are they going thru a difficult time!

What is alcohol doing to them?

 

Of course they are weak, also they enjoy drinking and what goes with it, they like to blame the drink rather than themselves. Rubbish in relationships and with family, drinking is priority 

[scubascuba3]

22 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Alcoholism is a disease like being fat is a disease. Merely a mental crutch to make the afflicted person feel better.

Being fat isn't a disease, but it is a sign of poor self control

[gargamon]

11 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Being fat isn't a disease, but it is a sign of poor self control

That's what I said. English not your first language?

[fredwiggy]

Genetics are maybe half of how a person becomes an alcoholic. Most everyone has friends who drink, and most everyone tries a drink when they are young. Part rebellion, part curiosity, part wanting to fit in. The problem arises when either a person is prone , by genetics, to keep going overboard, or liking the taste of drink, and drinking with friends until they get hooked. Some people should never drink, either being predisposed or by a weakness to let it take control.

 

A person can drink wine or a beer everyday and not be an alcoholic, if they can go without it when they want. Drinking a twelve pack or a bottle of whiskey every day is a problem. The body gets used to drinking and the mind also wants it. Many have depression worldwide and drink to make the hurt go away, at least for awhile. Self medicating is done with drink and drugs, whatever their choice, and isn't a substitute for an antidepressant drug (the right one). So many see their parents drinking a lot and think it's okay.

 

My mom and dad drank a little now and then, and I saw it as socializing. I tried drinking when I was young, getting drunk a few times and not liking it. I was always into fitness, so that kept me away from most of it. I got into wine, learning a lot about it, and enjoyed, with friends, many bottles of good wine. Even had a collection of a few hundred bottles. I always shared and never drank alone that I can remember, and with the wine, it was a couple of glasses and not to get wasted. I can take it or leave it, and I'm glad, because I've seen what it can do to friends.

 

Some drink to forget, but it doesn't happen for long. Life is till there when you're sober. Some drink because they are hurting and angry and again, life comes back, and anger and drinking gets many in real trouble. The only way to "cure" it, is not doing it. Will power has to be learned if you already don't have it, and AA is there because many don't. Just like having depression, talking to others in the know, feeling heard, helps more than most anything.

[scubascuba3]

24 minutes ago, gargamon said:

That's what I said. English not your first language?

Plonker re read it, you said being fat is a disease, nonsense

[fredwiggy]

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Plonker re read it, you said being fat is a disease, nonsense

He is actually right in his thinking. Obesity is recognized as a disease by many health professionals, but some disagree.............https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obesity/symptoms-causes/syc-20375742

[gargamon]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Plonker re read it, you said being fat is a disease, nonsense

 

1 hour ago, gargamon said:

Alcoholism is a disease like being fat is a disease. Merely a mental crutch to make the afflicted person feel better.

Duh. Let me simplify it for you so you can understand. 

 

Alcoholism is a disease like fat being fat is a disease. Neither are. They are called diseases so that the fat and/or the alcoholic (sometimes 1 person both at the same time) can think it's not their fault.

 

[2baht]

2 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

We must cure the alcohol and even bring in Sharia Law if that helps 

You DO have a problem, a big problem if you think Sharia Law is the answer! Go and live in Saudi Arabia!!!

[bob smith]

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

The only addiction I have is beautiful, Thai women. 

come off it, SAFETY.

 

All you end up with is the 2nd rate hand me downs that Thai men don't want!

 

Really beautiful Thai women wouldn't give you the time of day.

 

bob.

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, gargamon said:

 

Duh. Let me simplify it for you so you can understand. 

 

Alcoholism is a disease like fat being fat is a disease. Neither are. They are called diseases so that the fat and/or the alcoholic (sometimes 1 person both at the same time) can think it's not their fault.

 

Some have opinions and some things are facts, and also disputed. This is one link, as there are many on both sides................https://www.drugrehab.com/addiction/alcohol/alcoholism-disease-choice/

[scubascuba3]

13 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

He is actually right in his thinking. Obesity is recognized as a disease by many health professionals, but some disagree.............https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/obesity/symptoms-causes/syc-20375742

being fat isn't the same as being obese, try again

[scubascuba3]

8 minutes ago, gargamon said:

 

Duh. Let me simplify it for you so you can understand. 

 

Alcoholism is a disease like fat being fat is a disease. Neither are. They are called diseases so that the fat and/or the alcoholic (sometimes 1 person both at the same time) can think it's not their fault.

 

sounds like you've been drinking, maybe an alcoholic?

[fredwiggy]

7 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

being fat isn't the same as being obese, try again

What is your definition of fat? One pound more fat than you need, 10 pounds over what's recommended by charts? Which doesn't take into account body fat percentages, because many have very little fat and are considered overweight. 20 pounds, 30? A BMI of 25 is considered overweight. Is overweight a disease or only obesity? Overweight leads to obesity many times. How does one become obese? Overnight? No, of course not, it takes time, so their thinking is already off when they start and let themselves get to that BMI of 25. That would be considered a disease. Diseases many times start slow, like cancer and heart disease, then get out of control because prevention isn't applied.