Social Media Posted September 23, 2024 Posted September 23, 2024 Former President Donald Trump’s plan for mass deportations of illegal immigrants may face strong resistance from the U.S. military, according to legal analyst Joseph Nunn. As the 2024 presidential election nears, immigration has emerged as a central issue, particularly with the ongoing surge in migrant border crossings. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data shows that over 2.4 million encounters occurred at the U.S.-Mexico border during the 2023 fiscal year, up from around 1.7 million in 2021. Trump, the Republican presidential nominee, has repeatedly promised mass deportations as part of his campaign, vowing to enlist the Army and local law enforcement to remove millions of illegal immigrants. His campaign spokeswoman, Karoline Leavitt, reiterated Trump’s plans, stating that he "would marshal every federal and state power necessary to institute the largest deportation operation of illegal criminals, drug dealers, and human traffickers." However, Nunn, counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s School of Law, believes the U.S. military is unlikely to cooperate with such a plan. He explained, "The military is going to see this and say this is not the kind of duty that soldiers signed up for. This is getting the military involved in domestic politics in a way the military doesn’t like to do." While Nunn acknowledged that Trump’s proposal could be legally viable, he highlighted the logistical challenges it would pose. "The military is not going to like doing it, and they are going to drag their feet as much as they can, but it is possible, so it should be taken seriously." Former senior Homeland Security official John Sandweg expressed similar doubts, emphasizing the practical challenges of executing Trump’s plan. "On a practical level, it will be nearly impossible for [Trump] to do the things he's talking about, even if he could bring in the military," Sandweg said. Trump has indicated that he would prioritize the deployment of the National Guard, whose troops can be activated by state governors. According to Stephen Miller, Trump’s chief immigration policy advisor, sympathetic Republican governors would send National Guard troops to neighboring states that refuse to participate. Miller explained last year that, for example, the "Alabama National Guard is going to arrest illegal aliens in Alabama and the Virginia National Guard in Virginia. And if you're going to go into an unfriendly state like Maryland, well, there would just be Virginia doing the arrest in Maryland." Nunn’s remarks came after Trump announced that the mass deportation plan would begin in Springfield, Ohio, and Aurora, Colorado—cities that have been central to anti-immigration rhetoric in recent weeks. Trump claimed that a Venezuelan gang had taken over parts of Aurora and made unfounded accusations that Haitian migrants in Springfield had been eating residents' pets. "We’re going to have the largest deportation in the history of our country, and we’re going to start with Springfield and Aurora," Trump declared. However, both cities have pushed back on these claims. Aurora’s mayor, Mike Coffman, told Newsweek that while some apartment complexes had experienced issues with the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua, the gang was not in control of the area. Similarly, Springfield officials have debunked rumors about Haitian migrants eating pets and condemned Trump’s comments for sparking community tension. Last week, Springfield’s city hall, along with two elementary schools and the Clark County courthouse, had to be evacuated after a bomb threat containing "hateful language toward immigrants and Haitians" was sent. As the debate over immigration continues to heat up, Trump’s deportation plan may face significant hurdles—not only from legal and logistical challenges but also from a military unwilling to engage in domestic enforcement of immigration laws. Based on a report from: Newsweek 2024-09-24
Popular Post Tug Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 It’s most likely a moot point trump is trending towards an epic shellacking and the dustbin of history. 4 4 2 3
Popular Post jippytum Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 Illegal is illegal. People who enter a country illegally should be deported. 3 2 1 1 6
Popular Post Paul Henry Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 If Trump got in the chances are he would have forgotten what he had said about migrants months before and like the "wall" little if anything would be done. 3 4 1 1
Popular Post Tug Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 12 minutes ago, jippytum said: Illegal is illegal. People who enter a country illegally should be deported. Most folks myself included agree the problem trump has is he wants to deport all migrants legal or not you know like the Haitians he’s lying about in Springfield Ohio they are legal they aren’t breaking the law…..there just the wrong color ….. 2 2 4 6
Popular Post jippytum Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 illegal immigrants in some states in the US remain undetected by border officials long enough they are given some form of legal resident status. This is unfair to the many applicants who can legally apply to enter the US. Illegal immigrants should be deported. It will cost Trump the Latino vote but he is the only politician worldwide with the guts to deport illegals. 3 1 1 4 2
Popular Post thaipo7 Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 20 minutes ago, jippytum said: Illegal is illegal. People who enter a country illegally should be deported. This why the wall was not built under Trump. Every where he turned, there were roadblocks. 2 2 1 2
Popular Post Tug Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 7 minutes ago, jippytum said: illegal immigrants in some states in the US remain undetected by border officials long enough they are given some form of legal resident status. This is unfair to the many applicants who can legally apply to enter the US. Illegal immigrants should be deported. It will cost Trump the Latino vote but he is the only politician worldwide with the guts to deport illegals. He’s so concerned then why did he kill the bipartisan border bill?the strongest reform in decades…became needs something to conn the gullible people with.again he wants to deport all migrants legal or not it’s a moot point anyway .thaipo the wall is a stupid idea easily breached and messes with the natural migration of the critters. 1 1 3 4
Popular Post morrobay Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 30 minutes ago, jippytum said: illegal immigrants in some states in the US remain undetected by border officials long enough they are given some form of legal resident status. This is unfair to the many applicants who can legally apply to enter the US. Illegal immigrants should be deported. It will cost Trump the Latino vote but he is the only politician worldwide with the guts to deport illegals. No , the US citizens that are Hispanics and did everything properly resent the illegal Hispanic and Trump will get their vote. The illegals can't vote. See Hispanics for Trump. Re mass deportation, the president can federalize the states national guard and order them. And he can also fire members of the military for disobedience. This mass deportation can be messy and chaotic but the president can force the issue. 4 1 4 2
Popular Post thesetat2013 Posted September 23, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 23, 2024 1 hour ago, jippytum said: Illegal is illegal. People who enter a country illegally should be deported. Agreed. It is quite funny the posters in this forum. They are in Thailand. When a foreigner is caught here for illegal entry or overstay on their visas. They are in the forum screaming deport them and they deserve to be thrown out. But then in forums about the US illegals. They are screaming the opposite. It makes me laugh and wonder what kind of people in this forum are so 2-faced this way. 2 1 1 1 5
Popular Post zepplin Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Paul Henry said: If Trump got in the chances are he would have forgotten what he had said about migrants months before and like the "wall" little if anything would be done. By the looks of it, he is failing bigly and will be in jail, where he belongs , all the people he stiffed will be so happy! 2 2 1 3
Popular Post HK MacPhooey Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Tug said: Most folks myself included agree the problem trump has is he wants to deport all migrants legal or not you know like the Haitians he’s lying about in Springfield Ohio they are legal they aren’t breaking the law…..there just the wrong color ….. Nonsense post - how can 14-18000 immigrants being dumped in a small community of 40-50000 people be legal 1 3 1 2 3
Popular Post john donson Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Tug said: Most folks myself included agree the problem trump has is he wants to deport all migrants legal or not you know like the Haitians he’s lying about in Springfield Ohio they are legal they aren’t breaking the law…..there just the wrong color ….. wish many hundreds of them suddely come to live in your usa city, maybe you might change your mind 2 1 2
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 2 hours ago, thaipo7 said: This why the wall was not built under Trump. Every where he turned, there were roadblocks. Mexico refusing to pay for it being one. 1 1 6 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said: Agreed. It is quite funny the posters in this forum. They are in Thailand. When a foreigner is caught here for illegal entry or overstay on their visas. They are in the forum screaming deport them and they deserve to be thrown out. But then in forums about the US illegals. They are screaming the opposite. It makes me laugh and wonder what kind of people in this forum are so 2-faced this way. Just as funny as people who migrated for a better life screaming abuse over other people migrating for a better life, 2 1 1 3
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just as funny as people who migrated for a better life screaming abuse over other people migrating for a better life The difference being whether the migration was legal or illegal. Quite a big difference. 1 2 5
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, JonnyF said: The difference being whether the migration was legal or illegal. Quite a big difference. The similarity is migrating for a better life. The motivation is the same, and always has been, it’s what built America, 1 3 2
Popular Post JonnyF Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The similarity is migrating for a better life. And the difference is that one is legal and one is illegal. 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: The motivation is the same, and always has been, it’s what built America, Motivation the same, legality not. The law is kind of important, would you not agree? 1 4
Popular Post morrobay Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 5 minutes ago, JonnyF said: And the difference is that one is legal and one is illegal. Motivation the same, legality not. The law is kind of important, would you not agree? Another example of these non US citizens butting into US affairs with their flawed replies - And have worn out their welcome here. 1 1 1 3
Thingamabob Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 Many countries wish to deport illegal immigrants, not least because their presence is grossly unfair to those who have taken the trouble to enter legally. However the illegals are supported by a number of clandestine lawyers which complicates the issue. 1 1
Popular Post soalbundy Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 55 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Just as funny as people who migrated for a better life screaming abuse over other people migrating for a better life, Plus, 'you aint seen nothing yet' wait until global warming makes life impossible in southern regions, there will be a human tsunami heading north, borders only work in normal circumstances where there is at least a minimal respect for the law, when this breaks down all hell will erupt and will be uncontrollable. 2 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 1 minute ago, soalbundy said: Plus, 'you aint seen nothing yet' wait until global warming makes life impossible in southern regions, there will be a human tsunami heading north, borders only work in normal circumstances where there is at least a minimal respect for the law, when this breaks down all hell will erupt and will be uncontrollable. It’s definitely on the horizon. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 2 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: clandestine lawyers And you know they are clandestine lawyers because they wear masks and speak in whispers. 1 1
Popular Post herfiehandbag Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: And you know they are clandestine lawyers because they wear masks and speak in whispers. "Now listen very carefully, I shall only say this once!" 3
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted September 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted September 24, 2024 The US military absolute despises Trump for a dozen valid reasons, he's never shown them any respect, he's criticized many high ranking members of the military, he's disrespected his military advisors, he dodged the draft five times, and he's never shown himself to be a patriot on any level. Sorry big Don but your plan would fail, if elected. Thankfully that won't be a concern. Banishment is closer to the mark. 1 1 2
nauseus Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The similarity is migrating for a better life. The motivation is the same, and always has been, it’s what built America, You should be running for president. 2 1
nauseus Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: Plus, 'you aint seen nothing yet' wait until global warming makes life impossible in southern regions, there will be a human tsunami heading north, borders only work in normal circumstances where there is at least a minimal respect for the law, when this breaks down all hell will erupt and will be uncontrollable. Excuses,excuses. 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 3 minutes ago, nauseus said: You should be running for president. Nah, that’s Harris’ job. 2
soalbundy Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 1 hour ago, nauseus said: Excuses,excuses. Reality, reality, nobody will sit still and starve to death. Either the lucky countries help out (impossible in my opinion) or people will flood uncontrollably northwards, peoples migration 2,000 years ago was almost normal and threatened Rome's existence despite being the most powerful state on earth. The Zulu expansion of territory 2 to 300 years ago caused huge migrations on the African continent, once it starts it is impossible to stop. 1
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