Military Likely to Resist Trump's Mass Deportation Plan, Analyst Says

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And you know they are clandestine lawyers because they wear masks and speak in whispers.

....and hide in cupboards, and adopt strange accents..

[Hanaguma]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The US military absolute despises Trump for a dozen valid reasons, he's never shown them any respect, he's criticized many high ranking members of the military, he's disrespected his military advisors, he dodged the draft five times, and he's never shown himself to be a patriot on any level.

 

Sorry big Don but your plan would fail, if elected. Thankfully that won't be a concern. Banishment is closer to the mark. 

Actually, Trump only dodged the draft 4 times. It was Biden who dodged 5 times. But that is not really important.

 

 

[RayC]

30 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Actually, Trump only dodged the draft 4 times. It was Biden who dodged 5 times. But that is not really important.

 

 

 

More proof that Democrats do things better😁

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

More proof that Democrats do things better😁

Yeah, can't argue with you there. I have seen the light! Gonna throw my support behind Kamala now.

[Hummin]

26 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Yeah, can't argue with you there. I have seen the light! Gonna throw my support behind Kamala now.

Joking? 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

8 hours ago, morrobay said:

No , the US citizens that are Hispanics and did everything properly resent the illegal Hispanic and Trump will get their vote. The illegals can't vote. See Hispanics for Trump. Re mass deportation, the president can federalize the states national guard and order them. And he can also fire members of the military for disobedience. This mass  deportation can be messy and chaotic but the president can force the issue.

 

Once the National Guard becomes federalized, it comes under the Posse Comitatus Act and can't be used for domestic law enforcement.

Edited September 24 by Etaoin Shrdlu

[Tug]

10 hours ago, john donson said:

 

wish many hundreds of them suddely come to live in your usa city, maybe you might change your mind

I’m living in my San Diego home out and about every day in my border town……just not seeing it sure it’s present just not to the degree trumps lies and fear mongering would have you believe.don’t be so gullible 

[nauseus]

6 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Reality, reality, nobody will sit still and starve to death. Either the lucky countries help out (impossible in my opinion) or people will flood uncontrollably northwards, peoples migration 2,000 years ago was almost normal and threatened Rome's existence despite being the most powerful state on earth. The Zulu expansion of territory 2 to 300 years ago caused huge migrations on the African continent, once it starts it is impossible to stop.

 

Disagree. Migration 2,000 years ago was certainly not normal as we know it today. Any migrants to Rome were forced to move as prisoners, mainly as slaves. Rome weakened for several reasons but the emprire was finally broken by invasion - not migration - by various large bands of European barbarians. 

Edited September 24 by nauseus

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, RayC said:

 

More proof that Democrats do things better😁

 

Well, cheating awayway. Have to give 'em that. 😉

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

....and hide in cupboards, and adopt strange accents..

 

Y'all mean like your pet hyena in Georgia?

[RayC]

37 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Well, cheating awayway. Have to give 'em that. 😉

 

You'll have to explain that one to me🤔

[Cameroni]

There will be resistance to mass deportations but Trump has experience with the military disobeying his orders. Anyone who does so  this time around has to be ready to vacate his job.

[nauseus]

11 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

You'll have to explain that one to me🤔

 

Well draft dodging is a form of cheating. No?

[proton]

10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The similarity is migrating for a better life.

 

The motivation is the same, and always has been, it’s what built America

 

 

 

Illegal immigration did not build America. How many illegals did your hero Obama deport? more than Trump, the most of any president in history. No crying by the military then, Hussain Obama deported over 2 million, some sources say 3.5.

[CG1 Blue]

11 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The difference being whether the migration was legal or illegal.

 

Quite a big difference.

 

The similarity is migrating for a better life.

 

The motivation is the same, and always has been, it’s what built America,

By that logic Chomper you're suggesting that stealing a car is the same as buying a car. Same motivation, both want a car. 

Edited September 24 by CG1 Blue

[RayC]

3 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Well draft dodging is a form of cheating. No?

 

Ahhh ....👍

[MicroB]

18 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The US military absolute despises Trump for a dozen valid reasons, he's never shown them any respect, he's criticized many high ranking members of the military, he's disrespected his military advisors, he dodged the draft five times, and he's never shown himself to be a patriot on any level.

 

Sorry big Don but your plan would fail, if elected. Thankfully that won't be a concern. Banishment is closer to the mark. 

 

But Trumpf used 911 legislation to turn BORTAC, which started out an an anti-riot squad to be deployed at INS centres into a Federal Police Force, with an airforce and armour, and domestic surveillance powers, with a much shorter chain of command to the Secretary of thr DHS, and to the President. Trumpf deployed BORTAC to US Cities in 2020 in effectively a COIN capacity, to suppress domestic dissent. The powers notably weren't rolled back under Biden, and will likely be expanded if Trumpf wins, creating his own Praetorian Guard/SA.

 

He doesn't need the US military/

 

 

[stoner]

19 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

"Now listen very carefully, I shall only say this once!"

 

[herfiehandbag]

I was rather thinking of something more along these lines:

https://youtu.be/85dQQw1hsuM?si=CUnmotzLG43DrSI0

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 9/24/2024 at 8:37 AM, Social Media said:

However, Nunn, counsel at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University’s School of Law, believes the U.S. military is unlikely to cooperate with such a plan.

Nunn is, IMO, an idiot. Refusal to obey a direct order will likely result in some transfers to a military penal institution.

 

The only out is if the order is illegal, and deporting criminals is not, far as I can tell, illegal.

 

However, I understand the federal military can't be used for domestic law enforcement, but far as I know there is nothing preventing the National Guard doing so.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Well draft dodging is a form of cheating. No?

Why do the posters that condemn Trump for not fighting in an unpopular war that should never have happened, IMO, excuse Biden for the same thing. Seems hypocritical to me.

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, Hummin said:

Joking? 

IMO a certainty.

[nauseus]

16 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Ahhh ....👍

Bisto!

[RayC]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Bisto!

😂 I like it but I fear that we may have lost our American audience.

[thesetat2013]

On 9/24/2024 at 8:36 AM, JonnyF said:

 

The difference being whether the migration was legal or illegal.

 

Quite a big difference.

 

You keep throwing that around like it means something. It does not seem to matter to you that everyone else is complaining about the illegals.. Who crossed into the US unchecked. Nothing anywhere is said about throwing out the migrants who entered legally and registered and have green cards.. You just twist it into your own speil as an excuse to rile people into believing you. 

[billd766]

On 9/24/2024 at 6:44 PM, nauseus said:

 

Disagree. Migration 2,000 years ago was certainly not normal as we know it today. Any migrants to Rome were forced to move as prisoners, mainly as slaves. Rome weakened for several reasons but the emprire was finally broken by invasion - not migration - by various large bands of European barbarians. 

What was the world population 2,000 years ago compared to the world population now?

 

Both North and South America were isolated as was Australia, New Zealand, most of Asia, India and southern Africa.

 

The Roman Empire was mainly western Europe with some but not all of the UK. The Germanic tribes were never incorporated into the Roman empire.

 

Russia was just a huge empty space witha few tribes dotted here and there.

 

There was plenty of room to live unlike now where the US alone has around 300 million people and both India and China have over a billion people each.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, billd766 said:

What was the world population 2,000 years ago compared to the world population now?

 

Both North and South America were isolated as was Australia, New Zealand, most of Asia, India and southern Africa.

 

The Roman Empire was mainly western Europe with some but not all of the UK. The Germanic tribes were never incorporated into the Roman empire.

 

Russia was just a huge empty space witha few tribes dotted here and there.

 

There was plenty of room to live unlike now where the US alone has around 300 million people and both India and China have over a billion people each.

 

The population was a lot less, Bill. But that was not a point that I was responding to.

 

Much of Asia and north Africa was certainly not isolated from Europe. The other regions you mention were. I have no idea why you bring most of these places into this. especially Russia,

 

By 300-400 AD the Roman empire was split, with the Greeks influencing the eastern part. The Roman legions did recruit increasing numbers of Germanic merecenaries, at least until they turned on their commanders and assisted with the defeat of Rome itself.

 

What is your point? Really. 

[thaibeachlovers]

17 minutes ago, nauseus said:

The Roman legions did recruit increasing numbers of Germanic merecenaries, at least until they turned on their commanders and assisted with the defeat of Rome itself.

Well done on getting that right. Many think the barbarians invaded, but they were mercenaries invited in by the Romans, as they didn't have enough Romans willing to join the army- shades of today, perhaps.

 

When it comes to inviting in those that will eventually take over, western country leaders seem intent on doing that in ever increasing numbers, IMO. Perhaps not openly inviting them ( though Biden may have done so a few years ago when he cancelled Trumps attempts to stop illegals. ) in, but certainly not doing enough to keep them out.

[billd766]

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

The population was a lot less, Bill. But that was not a point that I was responding to.

 

Much of Asia and north Africa was certainly not isolated from Europe. The other regions you mention were. I have no idea why you bring most of these places into this. especially Russia,

 

By 300-400 AD the Roman empire was split, with the Greeks influencing the eastern part. The Roman legions did recruit increasing numbers of Germanic merecenaries, at least until they turned on their commanders and assisted with the defeat of Rome itself.

 

What is your point? Really. 

My point is that you are trying to compare something that happened 1,600 years ago with something that is happening currently. There is no comparison to be made.

 

Try to stay on topic, rather than straying off topic into ancient history.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

My point is that you are trying to compare something that happened 1,600 years ago with something that is happening currently. There is no comparison to be made.

 

Try to stay on topic, rather than straying off topic into ancient history.

 

This "comparison" was actually first suggested by soalbundy. I have rejected it. Yes, no comparison. 

 

So now, I'm trying to ask you nicely, to save your lectures for those in need of them.