Vance Labels Harris as a Major Threat to Religious Liberty

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7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You mean like Kamala is talking to women about abortion, even though she already has women voters who want abortion voting for her?

 

Lol.

Like Trump is talking about immigration even though he already has the voters who want severe restrictions?

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You mean like Kamala is talking to women about abortion, even though she already has women voters who want abortion voting for her?

 

Lol.

You mean the women who want the right of dominion over their own bodies returned to them?!

[Hanaguma]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean the women who want the right of dominion over their own bodies returned to them?!

You are speaking in euphemisms. If you want to say the right to remove viable babies from their wombs and kill them, just say so. 

[Cameroni]

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean the women who want the right of dominion over their own bodies returned to them?!

 

They already have that dominion, they can ensure they do not get pregnant.

[Cameroni]

24 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Like Trump is talking about immigration even though he already has the voters who want severe restrictions?

 

I was not the one who was saying talking about your convictions makes you an idiot, that was one of your guys.

 

I was just pointing out that Kamala Harris is doing exactly the same.

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Just now, Cameroni said:

 

I was not the one who was saying talking about your convictions makes you an idiot, that was one of your guys.

 

I was just pointing out that Kamala Harris is doing exactly the same.

You got me there.

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

You are speaking in euphemisms. If you want to say the right to remove viable babies from their wombs and kill them, just say so. 

Euphemisms you say.

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Euphemisms you say.

Yes. Women already have a number of choices: abstinence, birth control, motherhood, adoption.  They have full control of the decision to be sexually active. That is why virtually every abortion restriction comes with the caveats that rape and incest are exceptions.  Outside of that, personal responsibility is the goal. 

[RocketDog]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

NEWS FLASH ... the experimental drugs did nothing to prevent getting or spreading any pestilence.

So you say.

[KhunLA]

46 minutes ago, RocketDog said:

So you say.

As does every doc, virologist & medical expert that speaks the truth.

 

 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, RocketDog said:

So you say.

 

Well, he is right, we have a member on here who got vaccinated and got covid.

 

And the pandemic did not stop due to vaccines.

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3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Very true.

 

If there were another pandemic Kamala Harris would make everyone wear masks and lock them up at home like they did the last time. Out of fear. 

 

The left has no courage for liberty. Cowards to a man, though few men among them.

I see that the right still has plenty of volunteers who have the courage to make stupid generalizations.

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[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I see that the right still has plenty of volunteers who have the courage to make stupid generalizations.

 

I do believe fear is at the root of the extreme polices Harris and her supporters enacted during the pandemic. A  hysteric and primal fear.

[Lacessit]

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I do believe fear is at the root of the extreme polices Harris and her supporters enacted during the pandemic. A  hysteric and primal fear.

Rubbish. If anyone is promoting fear right now, it is the Trump/Vance ticket with pet-eating immigrants, and illegals supposedly released from prisons and mental institutions.

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[Cameroni]

30 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Rubbish. If anyone is promoting fear right now, it is the Trump/Vance ticket with pet-eating immigrants, and illegals supposedly released from prisons and mental institutions.

 

As opposed to Kamala Harris claiming Trump will prohibit abortion and implement Project 2025, you mean?

 

Harris seems to do a good job of preying on the fears of women and progressives, that is for sure.

[candide]

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Very true.

 

If there were another pandemic Kamala Harris would make everyone wear masks and lock them up at home like they did the last time. Out of fear. 

 

The left has no courage for liberty. Cowards to a man, though few men among them.

A post from the MAGA alternate universe? Lockdowns occured under Trump.

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1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

I do believe fear is at the root of the extreme polices Harris and her supporters enacted during the pandemic. A  hysteric and primal fear.

First off, Harris didn't enact anything. She was VP not POTUS. And are you climbing that the Biden administration acted contrary to the advice of the CDC?

[newnative]

     If Trump had a lick of sense he'd get himself down to Home Depot, buy a roll of duct tape, and use it liberally to cover Vance's mouth--and, perhaps his nose, as well.  Fortunately, he doesn't have a lick of sense so Vance will likely remain non-duct taped to prove what an idiot he is every time he opens his mouth--which is greatly helping Harris.

    Remember, people, Trump is 78, hugely overweight, and a massive heart attack just waiting to happen.  No thinking person could want Vance a heartbeat  away from the presidency.

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12 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

As opposed to Kamala Harris claiming Trump will prohibit abortion and implement Project 2025, you mean?

 

Harris seems to do a good job of preying on the fears of women and progressives, that is for sure.

Actually, Trump hasn't ruled out a national prohibition. And he definitely hasn't ruled out restricting the use of mifepristone which is how most pregnancies are avoided currently. And what he said about project 2025 is that it has some bad ideas and some good ideas. But he's never specified what are the good ideas. So his rejection of it really amounts to next to nothing.

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13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

As opposed to Kamala Harris claiming Trump will prohibit abortion and implement Project 2025, you mean?

 

Harris seems to do a good job of preying on the fears of women and progressives, that is for sure.

And what makes Trump's rejection of project 2025 particularly suspect is it on the one hand he claimed not to have heard of it and on the other he said it had some good ideas and some bad ideas. How does that work?

[Hamus Yaigh]

12 hours ago, Social Media said:

“Number one, Kamala Harris — despite the fact that she says that she stands for working people, despite the fact that you know her running mate has this slogan, we believe in America that people ought to mind their own damn business — both of them pursued policies that would have people fired for refusing to take the COVID vaccine shot,” Vance argued.

 

7 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Well said Mr Vance. The left hate individual freedoms.

 

Only someone with learning difficulties would fail to grasp the idea that the COVID vaccines saved lives and Vance politicizing it now is simply him desperately trying to save his own life in politics in the coming election by spouting any kind of nonsense possible under the pretense of the right to free speech.

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2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

As does every doc, virologist & medical expert that speaks the truth.

 

 

So what? They saved lives and lessened the severity of the symptoms. That's not enough?

[Cameroni]

17 minutes ago, candide said:

A post from the MAGA alternate universe? Lockdowns occured under Trump.

 

One of the first acts of Joe Biden was to make face masks mandatory, look it up.

 

Trump never mandated any lockdown, the stay at home orders were made at state, city and county level. Only a handful of states did it.

 

However, if Harris would get in, she would be far more extreme with masks and lockdowns than Trump. She is already being pressured by Covid nuts who claim Biden did too lilttle and Harris has to do more.

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[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And what makes Trump's rejection of project 2025 particularly suspect is it on the one hand he claimed not to have heard of it and on the other he said it had some good ideas and some bad ideas. How does that work?

 

Project 2025 requires making abortion pills illegal, which the Supreme Court has already vetoed, their extreme abortion position is nothing like Trump's actual abortion policy.

 

Trump couldn't even implement their abortion ideas if he wanted to, unless the Reps win Senate and Congress.

 

Harris knows this very well.

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1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

One of the first acts of Joe Biden was to make face masks mandatory, look it up.

 

Trump never mandated any lockdown, the stay at home orders were made at state, city and county level. Only a handful of states did it.

 

However, if Harris would get in, she would be far more extreme with masks and lockdowns than Trump. She is already being pressured by Covid nuts who claim Biden did too lilttle and Harris has to do more.

Please share with us the information about these "Covid nuts" who are  pressuring Harris

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Please share with us the information about these "Covid nuts" who are  pressuring Harris

 

Here you go. Reading these nutjobs's ideas makes you terrified to think what will happen if Harris gets elected. She'll have to placate these nuts.

 

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/kamala-harris-public-health-agenda/

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5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Project 2025 requires making abortion pills illegal, which the Supreme Court has already vetoed, their extreme abortion position is nothing like Trump's actual abortion policy.

 

Trump couldn't even implement their abortion ideas if he wanted to, unless the Reps win Senate and Congress.

 

Harris knows this very well.

That's utter B S. The FDA eased restrictions and it can tighten them again should it so choose.  Congress would have no say in that. And there is the possibility that the Trump administration could enforce the Comstock act.

[Cameroni]

21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

That's utter B S. The FDA eased restrictions and it can tighten them again should it so choose.  Congress would have no say in that. And there is the possibility that the Trump administration could enforce the Comstock act.

It was the Supreme Court that halted efforts to restrict mail order abortion pills.

 

"The US Supreme Court has unanimously rejected an effort to restrict access to the abortion pill mifepristone."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2qq1wqw3w2o

 

Even where abortion is illegal women can procure these killer pills via mail and have abortions anyway. Given the above Supreme Court decision is it clear that if a comprehensive case were to go before the Supreme court on restricting mail order pills for abortion they would not support it. Comstock is a red herring, in any event it would not be Trump who would decide, it would be plaintiffs and judges.

 

I was talking about the all encompassing abortion prevention effort which project 2025 envisages, Trump could never pass an abortion law at the federal level of that kind unless he has Congrees and Senate in the pocket, which is unlikely.

 

 

[billd766]

11 hours ago, Tug said:

Are these religious bigots and racist doofuses projecting again?as far as the Biden administration insisting people who work amongst others be vaxed absolutely 👍 you are free to be unemployed just not free to endanger others…….

Like his sidekick Trump, he is a confirmed liar.

 

Between them, they represent the best that the gop has to offer to become the president and VP of the USA.

 

How sad for the gop and the USA, if this is the best that the gop can offer.

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31 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

It was the Supreme Court that halted efforts to restrict mail order abortion pills.

 

"The US Supreme Court has unanimously rejected an effort to restrict access to the abortion pill mifepristone."

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2qq1wqw3w2o

 

Even where abortion is illegal women can procure these killer pills via mail and have abortions anyway. Given the above Supreme Court decision is it clear that if a comprehensive case were to go before the Supreme court on restricting mail order pills for abortion they would not support it. Comstock is a red herring, in any event it would not be Trump who would decide, it would be plaintiffs and judges.

 

I was talking about the all encompassing abortion prevention effort which project 2025 envisages, Trump could never pass an abortion law at the federal level of that kind unless he has Congrees and Senate in the pocket, which is unlikely.

 

 

The reason the Supreme Court rejected the effort was that the plaintiffs didn't have standing. It never ruled on whether the FDA had overstepped its bounds. You should have actually read the article:

 

"The justices decided the plaintiffs, a group of anti-abortion doctors and activists, did not have a legal right to sue.

But they left the door open to other attempts to limit the availability of the drug."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c2qq1wqw3w2o

 

The decision was not clear or comprehensive. In fact, the FDA under the Trump administration could roll back the permissions it gave under the Biden administration.

 

As for Comstock, it may not be Trump who would decide the outcome of a court case, but he could definitely decide to start enforcing it and see what happens.

 

A national ban does seem unlikely now. But in 2 years who knows?

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