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Why Men Are Rejecting Marriage


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11 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Well good for you.   What part of 'most of us' did you not understand?

Clearly the wife is the brains of the operation. 

I understood what you wrote.   What I don't quite understand is why your comment has a negative tone to it.   After reading about men who are "taken to the cleaners" by both American and Thai women, I consider myself fortunate that I was able to convince a judge to annul my marriage, leaving the ex wife with nothing.   

As for "the brains" of the operation.   My wife has a degree in business and knows what to do when it comes to that.   She is also very good with numbers.   I am tapped to make decisions about a variety of other subjects, so we seem to make a good pair in the course of our lives together.  

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19 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I'm not a victim of western marriage laws.  The woman I was married to left me for someone else.   I petitioned the court, in California, for an annulment of the marriage.   The judge granted the annulment!

I also married a woman from Thailand.   As opposed to another's comment about Thai's being a drudge that can be bullied and controlled, my wife is a self motivated hard working individual, that will not be bullied, asks for advice but does what she decides to do, and does not take poo from anyone.   She now owns and runs a business that has a gross income of over $1,200,000.00  USD  a year.  We have been married for more than 30 years.     

I also have been married twice the first one in the west for 30 years and now the second time to a Thai for 21 years I ended the first marriage not my western wife, for a number of reasons married again to a Thai and are still married after 21 years. Never paid anything for my divorce apart from a few bucks court fees, and yes my current Thai wife makes good money and support me in my old age, can't complain about west or east. 

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I still think marriage can work if there's a very high level of compatibility in many areas, and if it's an Asian woman who is comfortable manifesting the dignity within femininity, and likes to play the role of a woman, and enjoys her man being a real man.

 

Otherwise it's just a big nasty mess. 

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21 hours ago, wombat said:

Fir the Same old argument that's been around since the 60's when the pill appeared.

Marriage was the only way to stop inbreeding....it would seem that some cults didn't get the memo.

Given that large numbers don't bother getting married before having kids now, that's something that belongs in history.

I see no reason for even having marriage any more given it's failure rate. Lawyers like it though.

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11 hours ago, radiochaser said:

I understood what you wrote.   What I don't quite understand is why your comment has a negative tone to it.   After reading about men who are "taken to the cleaners" by both American and Thai women, I consider myself fortunate that I was able to convince a judge to annul my marriage, leaving the ex wife with nothing.   

As for "the brains" of the operation.   My wife has a degree in business and knows what to do when it comes to that.   She is also very good with numbers.   I am tapped to make decisions about a variety of other subjects, so we seem to make a good pair in the course of our lives together.  

Why a negative tone?  Well let me tell you - your 'tone' was condescending and arrogant.

I will take what you are saying on 'face value' and with a grain of salt.

Following your success in Court in divorce and then choosing a millionaire to marry - you must be so happy.   

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7 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

easy to justify ...just look at the conservative "modern offerings" ...  

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Yes indeed mate - Eastern Europeans and Asians make the best wives - not all - but many.

And that is why western men are rejecting marriage - there is nothing but downside if she is or becomes a feminist bitch - and it is at best a 60/40 bet - 60% lose.  The reason I say 'at best' is that those men (who are real men) that make it work, are those that put up with all her lunacy and idiocy. There are woke simps who make it work too - but eventually the woman gets tired of the simp, and she either plays around, or gets a divorce anyway.   Far better odds to save up their money and then marry overseas where their money is worth a lot more, and the marriage laws are not biased and dont give so much to the woman if she wants a divorce.  

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On 9/28/2024 at 3:50 PM, Stevemercer said:

I'm not so sure. Look at Thailand which has no effective mandated child support. A Thai man can leave his wife and not give her anything, let alone child support. In fact, most seem to adandon all child support. So many single Mums. My wife's brother married 7 times, had 5 children and never paid anything. He was a rich man, but maybe karma caught up in the end becasue he died alone and in poverty.

 

I'm just saying most marriage are ended by the man. Most men would pay nothing to their ex if they had a choice.

 

 

 

 

If there is no children involved, why should anyone pay anything to their ex wife? What if the ex had or got a job, would the shoe be on the other foot? I don't think so.

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Arthur Schopenhauer has some excellent insights into the games women play which describes exactly why men are now rejecting marriage.

 

The basic gist is women are intellectual inferiors using emotional games to manipulate the work horse to make the money for them to spend it.

 

Life experience indicates to me Schopenhauer is exactly right.  So I have as little contact with women as possible.  And life is much better for it.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Mark Nothing said:

Arthur Schopenhauer has some excellent insights into the games women play which describes exactly why men are now rejecting marriage.

 

The basic gist is women are intellectual inferiors using emotional games to manipulate the work horse to make the money for them to spend it.

 

Life experience indicates to me Schopenhauer is exactly right.  So I have as little contact with women as possible.  And life is much better for it.

 

 

 

Spending money on women is nice. Women need to be treated well. 

The only problem is when things don't work out. 

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10 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Spending money on women is nice. Women need to be treated well. 

That only works as long as they willingly have sex in return.

 

When they decide they still want the goodies but do nothing in return is when it becomes a problem.

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1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That only works as long as they willingly have sex in return.

 

When they decide they still want the goodies but do nothing in return is when it becomes a problem.

psych hacks latest video is about sexless marriage.

he calls it a breach of contract and equates it to cheating on your partner. 

 

 

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Why the hell would an attractive young intelligent woman want a man these days.

He can't protect, provide or even row a boat.

 

The Thai chicks are SO switched on, these beauties are selling themselves for a little bit of money.

I'm in heaven, for a small price I can help these young women, support their young children after the father has run away, it's a WIN, WIN 🙏

 

 

I'm embarrassed for the male race, it's going south.

 

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17 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Why the hell would an attractive young intelligent woman want a man these days.

He can't protect, provide or even row a boat.

 

The Thai chicks are SO switched on, these beauties are selling themselves for a little bit of money.

I'm in heaven, for a small price I can help these young women, support their young children after the father has run away, it's a WIN, WIN 🙏

 

 

I'm embarrassed for the male race, it's going south.

 

Unattractive, stupid women should have a male partner. 

 

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1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

'm embarrassed for the male race, it's going south.

If you want an explanation, check out the gender of most teachers now. No male role models in schools anymore.

 

In NZ a man would have to be barking to teach in a school with girls and even teaching boys is likely to lead to false accusations.

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On 9/30/2024 at 12:29 AM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Why a negative tone?  Well let me tell you - your 'tone' was condescending and arrogant.

I will take what you are saying on 'face value' and with a grain of salt.

Following your success in Court in divorce and then choosing a millionaire to marry - you must be so happy.   

Arrogant and condescending, no.  Facts yes,  Do I have some success in life that is better than other people, yes.   I went from being homeless in the early 1980's due to my PTSD after Vietnam, to being where I am now.   Now is better!  

 

That the judge accepted the BS that I wrote and granted the requested annulment of  the marriage?   That success in court was mind boggling!  

 

Married a millionaire?  No.   Not a millionaire.  Perhaps only about a 1/8th millionaire.   This after her working for other people from 1990 (year we married) until 2012 when she opened her first business, then buying a more successful business about 5 years ago.    If you recall, I wrote that the business has a "gross income of over".   And remember, my wife has a college degree in business.  

 

After paying expenses for the current business,  rent ($5,000.00 a month), utilities, the basic ingredients to produce the product being sold, paying salaries to the employees, paying the employers parts of social security, unemployment, health, etc, and the taxes  (a god awful lot of taxes, to the city, state, and federal government), the wife is no where near being a millionaire.  

 

Did I say taxes?   Estimated taxes are required to be paid every 1/4 of the year.   I don't understand that very much but, her CPA does and estimates how much income the business will make then she pays an amount towards that.  But that quarterly estimate does not always fulfill the governments requirements.   At the end of the most recent tax year, CPA notified my wife that we had to pay an additional $60,000.00 in taxes!   

 

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