Trump appeal against ridiculous fine looks like a winner

[theblether]

Gordon Gecko famously said in the movie Wall Street "greed is good." Sometimes controlling your appetite for revenge is the better course. While he may lose the appeal against conviction, he'll almost certainly get the amount of the fine reduced.

 

"A five-judge New York appellate panel questioned both the size and validity of a judgment of more than $450 million against Donald J. Trump at a hearing."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/26/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-penalty-appeals-court.html

[Inderpland]

41 minutes ago, theblether said:

Gordon Gecko famously said in the movie Wall Street "greed is good." Sometimes controlling your appetite for revenge is the better course. While he may lose the appeal against conviction, he'll almost certainly get the amount of the fine reduced.

 

"A five-judge New York appellate panel questioned both the size and validity of a judgment of more than $450 million against Donald J. Trump at a hearing."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/26/nyregion/trump-civil-fraud-penalty-appeals-court.html

So, you're just posting your hopes and dreams. OK then.

[theblether]

11 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

So, you're just posting your hopes and dreams. OK then.

 

Absurd reply. Did you read the article? Did you note the Democrat judges casting serious doubts upon the case? 

[Inderpland]

4 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Absurd reply. Did you read the article? Did you note the Democrat judges casting serious doubts upon the case? 

No, I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall.

[theblether]

10 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

No, I didn't read the article because it's behind a paywall.

 

Thanks for confirming you didn't read it. 

 

Laughable. 

[Inderpland]

8 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Thanks for confirming you didn't read it. 

 

Laughable. 

Yes, I agree posting a link to a source hidden behind a paywall is quite laughable.

 

 

[theblether]

4 minutes ago, Inderpland said:

Yes, I agree posting a link to a source hidden behind a paywall is quite laughable.

 

 

 

It wasn't behind a paywall for me but hey, try google - there's plenty of free sources for the same story out there. You'll even read reports on <removed> websites. You'll know where to find them, eh? 

 

Carry on. 

[Danderman123]

Trump will get at least a major reduction in the fine.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

It wasn't behind a paywall for me but hey, try google - there's plenty of free sources for the same story out there. You'll even read reports on <removed> websites. You'll know where to find them, eh? 

 

Carry on. 

Then post links to the free sources, instead of wasting people's time.

[bendejo]

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Trump will get at least a major reduction in the fine.

I agree, they will probably roll it back to the initial fine, but I think they should make a provision that the next time he denounces her again $5 million gets added at each update.  Each of these appeals costs him plenty even without the fine.  Maybe during breaks in the court proceeding he can hawk watches in Foley Square (the location of the courthouse) to try to raise cash for the attorneys.  Or if a Black person comes along he can try to sell them the sneakers.

 

[Danderman123]

9 minutes ago, bendejo said:

I agree, they will probably roll it back to the initial fine, but I think they should make a provision that the next time he denounces her again $5 million gets added at each update.  Each of these appeals costs him plenty even without the fine.  Maybe during breaks in the court proceeding he can hawk watches in Foley Square (the location of the courthouse) to try to raise cash for the attorneys.  Or if a Black person comes along he can try to sell them the sneakers.

 

Different case.

 

This is the NY State case against the Trump Organization.

[jerrymahoney]

“I think you hear underneath all these questions, the question of mission creep,” Associate Justice Peter Moulton said. “Has 6312” — the statute in question — “morphed into something that it was not meant to do?”

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/26/trump-civil-fraud-appeal-oral-arguments-00181339

[jerrymahoney]

REDUX

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1320175-judge-orders-trump-and-companies-to-pay-nearly-355-million-in-civil-fraud-trial/?do=findComment&comment=18714310

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by jerrymahoney

[Theforgotten1]

There are so many people on this forum who hate Trump , hate the fact that he never started a war under his presidency, hate the fact that he help the black population, hate the fact that he wanted to make America a better country for the Americans.  

[TigerandDog]

12 hours ago, Inderpland said:

So, you're just posting your hopes and dreams. OK then.

even the legal eagles at Meidas Touch expect it to be reduced on the basis of EVERY appeal that has gone before the appellant court has been reduced. They're estimating that it will be reduced to within the range of $175m - $300m PLUS the interest.

[Kwaibill]

My guess at a likely outcome is that the punitive award will be reduced by maybe 100 million, but not overturned. I’ve noticed similar outcomes in past cases if I recall correctly. The one that comes to mind is the woman who spilled a cup of McDonalds coffee on herself and was initially awarded some astronomical sum ( I forget the numbers involved) but it was reduced considerably on appeal. Personally I think that one should have been vacated entirely because some personal responsibility should be attached to handling hot liquids, but not how the world wags anymore.

[Danderman123]

In such cases, juries tend to vote for astronomical sums, and appeals courts dial it back.

[renaissanc]

I think that the New York Appeals Court will reduce the fine significantly, and the Supreme Court will dismiss the case afterwards. Then when Trump is President he'll clean out the DoJ of the biased, corrupt Democrat(-Marxist) judges around the country. Get our resume ready, Engoran!

[mdr224]

1 hour ago, Theforgotten1 said:

There are so many people on this forum who hate Trump , hate the fact that he never started a war under his presidency, hate the fact that he help the black population, hate the fact that he wanted to make America a better country for the Americans.  

I think its just because hes mean. Americans are very sensitive people…