Harris Lies, Americans Die. Illegal Aliens are more Important

[renaissanc]

On 10/4/2024 at 10:18 AM, jerrymahoney said:

From the above Newsweek link:

However, SSP (The Shelter and Services Program) is a small share of FEMA's overall yearly budget. For the new financial year which began Oct. 1, the agency laid out a need for $33.1 billion.

"These claims are completely false," a DHS spokesperson told Newsweek Thursday, addressing the accusations by Abbott and others. "As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters.

"The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA's disaster-related authorities or funding streams."

This assurance comes from the person who kept saying that the border is secure.

[cjinchiangrai]

4 minutes ago, renaissanc said:

This assurance comes from the person who kept saying that the border is secure.

Most of the illegals are overstaying visas, just like the illegals here. The border is not the problem.

[Dan O]

17 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

You have real issues bro. Its my home state and I know folks who have lost a lot and arent getting help thanks to Harris, so why dont you help us by firing her.

 

You are like the dude that sells the gun to the school shooter then screeches when we point it out.

Harris has nothing to do with this issue so stop your bullsh!t. Your sitting on your butt behind a computer running fake info, lies and misinformation.  Your not part of the solution your part of the problem.

[Dan O]

On 10/4/2024 at 10:45 AM, impulse said:

 

FEMA is short because so much of their funding went to caring for illegals.

 

Post a link proving your lie

[impulse]

1 hour ago, Will B Good said:

Trump and his cronies have expressed outrage that the agency has spent over $640m (£487m) on housing migrants.
But officials pointed out that this funding, authorised by Congress, was part of an entirely different programme run by Fema unconnected to disaster relief.

 

Had there been no migrants to house, feed and care for, why would congress authorize that money be spent on them, instead of other programs?  Like hurricane relief.   Or veteran health care.  Or...  Or...

 

This stinks for citizens, no matter how you try to spin it.

 

 

[Yagoda]

32 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

More like a troll for Putin. This is part of a global disinformation campaign.

Oooooooo. The Russians. The bought and paid for boogyman of the neocon warmongers.

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Harris has nothing to do with this issue so stop your bullsh!t. Your sitting on your butt behind a computer running fake info, lies and misinformation.  Your not part of the solution your part of the problem.

Her government, her policies, her problem.  Tell it to the victims.

[Yagoda]

6 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Had there been no migrants to house, feed and care for, why would congress authorize that money be spent on them, instead of other programs?  Like hurricane relief.   Or veteran health care.  Or...  Or...

 

This stinks for citizens, no matter how you try to spin it.

 

 

And for the dogs and cats.

 

*just a bit of humour*

[Dan O]

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Her government, her policies, her problem.  Tell it to the victims.

She didn't make the weather so stop being moronic. Her policies ? What policies, she doesn't make policy yet? Post some real facts and not your lies. Gives us a link. 

 

The only one that is a problem is people like you that are all mouth and no facts. Its a national disaster so pull your head out and do something g positive and stop with the Russian supported troll posts

[Dan O]

18 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Had there been no migrants to house, feed and care for, why would congress authorize that money be spent on them, instead of other programs?  Like hurricane relief.   Or veteran health care.  Or...  Or...

 

This stinks for citizens, no matter how you try to spin it.

 

 

Post a link where Congress used disaster funds for immigrants. If not then delete you fake lies

[jerrymahoney]

Newspaper report from Asheville, NC via no paywall Des Moines Register (lots of photos)

 

North Carolina lawmakers to vote on preliminary Helene relief package next week, leaders say

 

"Over the past week, we've heard directly from residents in Western North Carolina and have seen the devastation firsthand. Our hearts are broken for the communities that have been ravaged by Hurricane Helene," Berger and Moore said in a joint statement Friday. "Despite the destruction, it has been incredible to see how North Carolinians have stepped up to help. We cannot let up on those efforts or forget about the small communities that have been effectively closed off because of this storm."

 

They said the General Assembly "is preparing to come back next week to vote on an initial disaster relief package to facilitate the state's response to Hurricane Helene," adding that they were still determining what would be included in the legislation.

 

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2024/10/04/nc-lawmakers-to-launch-nonpartisan-helene-recovery-effort-next-week/75517190007/

 

Edited 1 hour ago by jerrymahoney

[radiogeneris]

This is outrageous, FEMA is not only not helping but actively blocking help.

 

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842284913279586447?t=Q6VgIXPoo7e1PyZm5GYaMg&s=19

 

FEMA people obviosuly get kickbacks from their vendors list...

 

Kamala's government is most corrupted ever!

[cjinchiangrai]

27 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Oooooooo. The Russians. The bought and paid for boogyman of the neocon warmongers.

It is Trump that is bought and paid for. FYI Neocons is an earlier term for MAGA, and as Trump just demonstrated, are in fact warmongers.

[radiogeneris]

47 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Harris has nothing to do with this issue so stop your bullsh!t. Your sitting on your butt behind a computer running fake info, lies and misinformation.  Your not part of the solution your part of the problem.

 

It is you Dan O who is repeating misinformation of Democrat's controlled mainstream media.

 

Kamala was appointed Border Czar and responsible for border situation. Here is proof:

 

 

She is even admitting this. Stop misinformation PLS. 

 

Also is not she in charge of government now?? It is well known Biden is senile and unable to even go to toilet by himself. Who else is in control of the country? She is VP and next in chain of command. Biden was even removed (in undemocratic way, without actual voting) from Presidential Ballot...

 

Time to wake up America! Stop following lies of mainstream news.

 

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, soalbundy said:

Well the election is close and Trump has a lot of negative news to brush under the carpet.

As always, comes down to the lesser of 2 evils, and how you will or won't benefit from either 

 

2024 ...  HARRIS ...  2024

[Dan O]

4 minutes ago, radiogeneris said:

 

It is you Dan O who is repeating misinformation of Democrat's controlled mainstream media.

 

Kamala was appointed Border Czar and responsible for border situation. Here is proof:

 

 

She is even admitting this. Stop misinformation PLS. 

 

Also is not she in charge of government now?? It is well known Biden is senile and unable to even go to toilet by himself. Who else is in control of the country? She is VP and next in chain of command. Biden was even removed (in undemocratic way, without actual voting) from Presidential Ballot...

 

Time to wake up America! Stop following lies of mainstream news.

 

 

Which part of Bidens statement when he said " that it is not her full responsibility but she is helping to lead the effort" did you not understand? She is not the border czar as Republicans like to claim.  

[cardinalblue]

On 10/4/2024 at 10:55 AM, KhunLA said:

My brother's wife has family there.  Let's just say, she's not happy about the govt assistance or lack of, to be more specific.

And how do you feel when trump didn’t want release disaster funds from So Ca fires during his term b/c the state didn’t vote for him?

[Keep Right]

The Democrats will do anything for a vote, even encouraging illegal aliens into the country as potential future voters.

[soalbundy]

Just now, KhunLA said:

As always, comes down to the lesser of 2 evils, and how you will or won't benefit from either 

 

2024 ...  HARRIS ...  2024

Indeed, the myth of democracy still abounds because every 4 years you can exchange one set of sociopaths for another as if true control doesn't belong to conglomerates like Black rock, the central bank, the stock market or the Fed. True freedom comes from having 'fock you' money otherwise you are at the mercy of your employer, your landlord, your bank, your insurance provider, your spouse or the idiot you voted for last time around.

[Dan O]

30 minutes ago, radiogeneris said:

This is outrageous, FEMA is not only not helping but actively blocking help.

 

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842284913279586447?t=Q6VgIXPoo7e1PyZm5GYaMg&s=19

 

FEMA people obviosuly get kickbacks from their vendors list...

 

Kamala's government is most corrupted ever!

This has been disproven as not accurate so don't post fake news. Use real sources 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/us/fema-floods-north-carolina.html

Edited 30 minutes ago by Dan O

[bubblegum]

@Yagoda You are a lying propaganda terrorist: 

 

Heather Cox Richardson 

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October 4, 2024 (Friday)

MAGA Republicans are now lying about the federal response to Hurricane Helene in much the same way they lied about Haitian migrants bringing chaos and disease to Springfield, Ohio. Both disinformation efforts are flat-out lies, and both are designed to demonize immigrants. Immigration was the issue Trump was so eager to run on that he demanded Republican lawmakers reject the strong border bill a bipartisan group of lawmakers had hammered out.

The federal response to Hurricane Helene has drawn bipartisan praise, with Republican governor Henry McMaster of South Carolina thanking Biden by name for what McMaster called a “superb” response.

But on Sunday, September 29, two days after the hurricane hit, the right-wing organization started by anti-immigrant Trump loyalist Stephen Miller posted: “Billions for Ukraine. Billions for illegal aliens. And what for the Americans? Reprogram every single dollar that FEMA has dedicated to support illegal aliens to go towards Americans who are facing unprecedented devastation!”

Yesterday, in Saginaw, Michigan, Trump echoed Miller, claiming that the Biden administration is botching the hurricane response because it has spent all the money appropriated for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) on “illegal immigrants.” “They spent it all on illegal migrants.… They stole the FEMA money just like they stole it from a bank, so they could give it to their illegal immigrants that they want to have vote for them,” he said. Today, he claimed that “a billion dollars was stolen from FEMA to use it for illegal migrants, many of whom are criminals, to come into our country.”

Early this morning, X owner Elon Musk posted to his more than 200 million followers: “Yes, they are literally using YOUR tax dollars to import voters and disenfranchise you! It is happening right in front of your eyes. And FEMA used up its budget ferrying illegals into the country instead of saving American lives. Treason.” On Wednesday, Dana Mattioli, Joe Palazzolo, and Khadeeja Safdar of the Wall Street Journal broke the story that Musk has been financing groups with ties to Miller since 2022.

But of course, it is NOT happening in front of anyone’s eyes.

On Wednesday, Alejandro Mayorkas, the secretary of the Department of Homeland Security in which FEMA is housed, told reporters that FEMA’s disaster relief fund is adequately funded for current needs. But, he warned, “extreme weather events are increasing in frequency and severity,” and we are not yet out of hurricane season. If another emergency hits, FEMA’s disaster relief fund will be stretched thin.

Congress also appropriated money for a different fund, the Shelter and Services Program (SSP), which is part of Customs and Border Protection but is administered by FEMA. Established under the Trump administration in 2019, SSP gives grants to states and local governments to provide shelter, food, and transportation to undocumented immigrants. After Trump’s accusation, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement: “These claims are completely false. As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters. The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA’s disaster-related authorities or funding streams.”

Glenn Kessler of the Washington Post did not leave the story there. “Trump has a habit of assuming other politicians act in the same way as he would,” Kessler wrote. So he looked into why Trump would have accused Biden “of raiding the FEMA disaster fund to handle undocumented migrants. It turns out that’s because he did this.”

In the middle of hurricane season in 2019, Kessler explains, Trump took $155 million from the FEMA disaster fund and redirected it to pay for detention space and temporary hearing locations for immigrants seeking asylum. “No, Biden didn’t take FEMA relief money to use on migrants,” the article title reads, “but Trump did.”

As in Springfield, a bipartisan group of lawmakers are begging MAGAs to stop the disinformation, which is keeping people from accessing the help they need and gumming up relief efforts as workers and local and state governments, as well as FEMA, have to waste time combating lies. Scammers and political extremists are making things worse by spreading AI-generated images and claiming that the federal government is ignoring the people and emergencies the images depict.

MAGA Republicans launched another major disinformation campaign today when the Bureau of Labor Statistics released another blockbuster jobs report. It showed that the country added about 254,000 jobs in September, far higher than the 140,000 jobs economists expected. It also revised the job numbers for July and August upward. The unemployment rate dropped from 4.2% in August to 4.1%, and wages have outpaced inflation.

Mark Zandi, chief economist for Moody’s Analytics, wrote that the jobs report “cements my view that the economy is about as good as it gets. The economy is creating lots of jobs across many industries, consistent with robust labor force growth, and thus low and stable unemployment. The economy is at full-employment, no more and no less. Wage growth is strong, and given big productivity gains, it is consistent with low and stable inflation. One couldn’t paint a prettier picture of the job market and broader economy.”

Yet MAGA Republicans deny that the economy is strong. Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) openly called the jobs report fake. And when a reporter asked Trump, “Jobs are up, the stock market hit that all-time high. Do you acknowledge that the economy is improving?” he answered: “No it’s not.”

But, apparently stung, this afternoon Trump posted on his social media site what appeared to be an announcement. After an emoji of a flashing red light, a headline read, “New: Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JPMorgan Chase, has endorsed Trump for President.” A representative for Dimon instantly denied such an endorsement, saying it is false. According to a spokesperson for JP Morgan, Dimon has neither contributed money nor endorsed Trump, or anyone else, in the 2024 presidential race. But Trump has not taken the post down.

Hugo Lowell of The Guardian notes that Trump has admired Dimon for a long time and likely craves his support. Trump has been unable to attract major endorsements, while celebrities throw their influence behind Harris and Minnesota governor Tim Walz almost daily. Yesterday, musician Bruce Springsteen endorsed Harris. Today, businessman and former Los Angeles Lakers basketball player Earvin "Magic" Johnson Jr. endorsed her.

The firehose of lies is designed to make it impossible for voters to figure out the truth. The technique is designed so that eventually voters give up trying to engage, conclude everyone is lying, throw up their hands, and stop voting. Holding on to facts combats the effects of the storm of lies.

Finally, tonight, the X account of Trump’s team and the Republican National Committee—now run by the Trump family and loyalists—showed a clip of Biden unexpectedly entering the White House briefing room today, joking with reporters, and saying, “Welcome to the swimming pool.” Referring to “Biden (or whatever’s left of him),” the post suggested his “swimming pool” reference was a sign of mental incapacity.

In fact, the briefing room was indeed originally a swimming pool. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt added the pool to the White House in 1933 after he found swimming helped to keep him in shape after his 1921 bout with polio. Presidents Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy (who had a mural by Bernard Lamotte installed around it), and Lyndon B. Johnson used the pool frequently. Richard Nixon did not. In 1970, Nixon had the pool covered and the space converted into the White House Press Room.

Nixon ordered the change made in such a way that it could be easily undone in case he got pushback for covering up FDR’s pool, but his successor, Gerald Ford, who was an avid swimmer, largely ended the conversation when he added a new outdoor pool to the White House complex in 1975.

Biden’s reference to the press room as a swimming pool was a historical joke rather than a sign of mental incapacity. This lie deserves the same scrutiny as the other whoppers from today, though, because as Glenn Kessler accurately observed, Trump’s common pattern is projection.

[cardinalblue]

On 10/4/2024 at 10:55 AM, KhunLA said:

My brother's wife has family there.  Let's just say, she's not happy about the govt assistance or lack of, to be more specific.

And how do you feel when trump didn’t want to release disaster funds from So Ca fires during his term b/c the state didn’t vote for him?

[radiogeneris]

8 minutes ago, Dan O said:

This has been disproven as not accurate so don't post fake news. Use real sources 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/02/us/fema-floods-north-carolina.html

 

New York times 😂 😂 

 

Main disinformation channel controlled by Democrats. They stopped reporting truth some time ago. Wake up Bro before our country is totally screwed.

Edited 27 minutes ago by radiogeneris

[bubblegum]

Just now, radiogeneris said:

 

New York times 😂 😂 

 

Main disinformation channel controlled by Democrats. They stopped reporting truth some time ago. Wake up Bro before our country is totally screwed.

Saying the mainstream media is disinformation comes straight out of the Russian disinformation playbook. Comarade.

[KhunLA]

12 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

And how do you feel when trump didn’t want to release disaster funds from So Ca fires during his term b/c the state didn’t vote for him?

 

Didn't feel anything, as could care less about things that don't concern me.  Didn't even know or follow the drama, if there was any.

 

15 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Indeed, the myth of democracy still abounds because every 4 years you can exchange one set of sociopaths for another as if true control doesn't belong to conglomerates like Black rock, the central bank, the stock market or the Fed. True freedom comes from having 'fock you' money otherwise you are at the mercy of your employer, your landlord, your bank, your insurance provider, your spouse or the idiot you voted for last time around.

[Dan O]

5 minutes ago, radiogeneris said:

 

New York times 😂 😂 

 

Main disinformation channel controlled by Democrats. They stopped reporting truth some time ago. Wake up Bro before our country is totally screwed.

Nope, check others sources and you'll see the same info. Only ones claiming it not happening is Trump minions like you with no real sources or facts.

 

The only one getting screwed is you if you believe trumps bs con act.  I feel sorry for people like you.

 

Im not a Harris supporter and actually a republican or was until they sold their souls for trump at the expense of the country. 

[Dan O]

1 minute ago, KhunLA said:

 

Didn't feel anything, as could care less about things that don't concern me.  Didn't even know or follow the drama, if there was any.

 

Spoken in true trump fashion. 

[Dan O]

8 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Saying the mainstream media is disinformation comes straight out of the Russian disinformation playbook. Comarade.

Thats all they can do as there are too many facts that show how deluded they have become. They just can't seem to be able to tell fact from lie. Very sad to see people fall for trump bs con act

[KhunLA]

Just now, Dan O said:

Spoken in true trump fashion. 

Don't know what trump has to do with my thoughts, or thoughs of family in N.C.

 

All safe, and that's all that matters.   The area is a bit isolated, since some, many roads are impassible, or just not there any more.  

 

Would think with all the rain, they got plenty of water.  Bag a deer, and they can eat for a month.  They're are fairly self sufficient, and far from helpless, luckily.  

[radiogeneris]

13 minutes ago, Dan O said:

Nope, check others sources and you'll see the same info. Only ones claiming it not happening is Trump minions like you with no real sources or facts.

 

The only one getting screwed is you if you believe trumps bs con act.  I feel sorry for people like you.

 

Im not a Harris supporter and actually a republican or was until they sold their souls for trump at the expense of the country. 

 

Other sources, means other democrat's controlled mainstream Media like CNN and NBC? 

 

Here is small example of NYT lies:

 

Do your OWN research and don't assume all that these outlets tell you is true... I am glad that so many members of this forum are already awake, maybe humanity can be saved.