Are Older Men in Thailand Trading Love for Financial Ruin

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

Real simple. Older men flock to Thailand because of woke libturdishness in the West. Ever seen how nasty looking and scowling Western women look these days? Sheesh. If looks could kill. Couldn't imagine entering into some kind of legal agreement with them. Thanks to all the woke sh!t these Western b1tches hate men - and they don't even know why - that's how effective the programming has been.

[Cameroni]

16 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

You said, "It's quite interesting, when I was a Cayman lawyer earning 6 figures I got my then wife a job as a secretary. She earned 60,000 dollars on top of my salary. Do you think she paid for the rent, food or necessities? No. All saved for her."

 

Sorry, I can't account for dim people, if guys can only retain a woman if they pay for them then it is not my fault.

 

I can give you my contrasting story though.

 

During the 1990's and 2000's I was earning about £140,000 as a freelance software engineer a year through European contracts and one USA contract,  it was mostly tax-free seeing as I set up the company in the British Virgin Isles.

 

My then-wife had a 150-seat Thai restaurant in an expensive area in England from 1994 and for the next 27 years, the takings were £12,000 a week, and the profit margin was high. 

 

I think after salaries and other costs, tax etc she made a profit of about £150,000 a year, our two kids went to private school all of their lives.

 

We pooled our money and bought a few houses over the years, they are now worth millions of pounds, and we retired early.

 

So that is one example of a male and female pooling their resources, therefore, your claim that women either expect not to work or keep all of the money themselves is not the case, it might just be happening to people like you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are seriously dim, but are not aware of it, clearly. I said the ex wife got a salary, she worked for the money.I never had to pay her a cent, she made plenty of money. The law firm she worked for paid her 60,000, I did not. That woman was fantastically loyal and there was never a question of "paying  to retain her", what are you on about?

 

If the takings in the restaurant were 12,000 a week, even with a high profit margin of 10% that's 1000 per week. Hardly big coin.

 

140,000 a year plus 4000 a month but you bought "a few houses" that are worth millions now? How? That income is nowhere near enough to "buy a few houses worth milions".  You'd have to put down 200,000 deposit for a house worth one million, but you bought them like confetti on a 140K salary? Do tell how, lol. I bought a house in the sought after area of St Albans in 1998, even in 2024 that 4bed house is only worth 500,000., 

 

Anyway, I was able to buy houses, whilst they're not worth millions, retaining my autonomy is priceless, being tied to a 60 year old aging woman because of finances would be my idea of a living nightmare.

 

My two kids also go to private school, btw, hardly a big accomplishment, tons of guys on here send their kids to private school.

Edited October 11 by Cameroni

[Cameroni]

2 hours ago, Will B Good said:

 

I live in a large, three bed detached house, all rooms ensuite, set in 1.5 rai and a maids house in the garden ....rent free.

 

In return I pay the bills......2000/3000B/month and for food and drink.....coppers.

 

Not a bad partnership as partnerships go. 

 

And how old is the lady?

[Will B Good]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

And how old is the lady?

 

 

 

Me minus 26.

 

 

[Cameroni]

7 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

 

 

Me minus 26.

 

 

 

That's good going.

 

Anyway, I guess I should clarify. In instances where one or two parties are in economic need, they may well pool resources, as there is otherwise no way to meet bills and living expenses. However, where both parties have a sufficient income, or one party has a relatively high income, it is common for the party with the highest income to meet the cost of daily necessities like rent, food etc, particularly if that is a man. If a woman then makes an additional salary, the man normally has no issue if she keeps the money for herself, and she certainly is inclined to do so.

 

The fantasy of a true "partnership" where both parties pay all costs exactly equally, is quite rare, and when it happens more a matter of necessity than desire from both parties.

 

In your particular case of course the lady probably has no additional cost in letting you live in the house, so this is a mutually beneficial relationship.

Edited October 11 by Cameroni

[JimTripper]

6 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You Da Man!

By the time many guys get over here they are already losing their sex drive. Some guys use medication to maintain an erection, but I guess that can't be good for you if taken all the time.

 

In addition, if the sex drive is not there interest typically wanes as well. So they are here searching for something they enjoyed when younger, but only doing it once in awhile.

 

I guess that's life. When the ability to actually retire somewhere you wished you could be as a youngster turns into not that big of a deal when you have the means to make it a reality.

 

Same with a lot of things. Expectation can trump obtaining what you desire. The pursuit of your goal can can be more fulfilling then reaching the goal. Planning to retire in an exotic country can be more exciting then living there.

 

Someone gets all pumped up in their mind getting ready to move. It gets built up too much. Then the reality of it does not measure up to the expectations and fantasies manufactured in their head (can lead to complaining about a lot of stuff once you have made the move 🤔).

Edited October 11 by JimTripper

[Sigmund]

The main rule of the thumb here is never "buy"...always "rent" !!

 

Always be worth more alive, then dead. Putting anything in the woman's name is the last thing to do if you want to live long enough. It's same back in the West but here one can get bumped off just for a scooter.

 

Many think they are the one and only, while behind their backs,  the fine lady is enjoying intimate yoga with multiple other partners.

[scubascuba3]

10 hours ago, JimTripper said:

Someone gets all pumped up in their mind getting ready to move. It gets built up too much. Then the reality of it does not measure up to the expectations and fantasies manufactured in their head (can lead to complaining about a lot of stuff once you have made the move 🤔).

You're projecting again, everyone i know loves it here vs back home

[JimTripper]

5 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

You're projecting again, everyone i know loves it here vs back home

Not backed up by this forum. Many complaints here...

[scubascuba3]

5 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Not backed up by this forum. Many complaints here...

Moany guys on AN, well documented 

[BritManToo]

15 hours ago, Sigmund said:

Many think they are the one and only, while behind their backs,  the fine lady is enjoying intimate yoga with multiple other partners.

 

You're never the one and only, unless living in a strict Muslim country.

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

You're never the one and only, unless living in a strict Muslim country.

Sloppy seconds?

[JamesPhuket10]

On 10/11/2024 at 2:02 PM, Cameroni said:

 

You are seriously dim, but are not aware of it, clearly. I said the ex wife got a salary, she worked for the money.I never had to pay her a cent, she made plenty of money. The law firm she worked for paid her 60,000, I did not. That woman was fantastically loyal and there was never a question of "paying  to retain her", what are you on about?

 

If the takings in the restaurant were 12,000 a week, even with a high profit margin of 10% that's 1000 per week. Hardly big coin.

 

140,000 a year plus 4000 a month but you bought "a few houses" that are worth millions now? How? That income is nowhere near enough to "buy a few houses worth milions".  You'd have to put down 200,000 deposit for a house worth one million, but you bought them like confetti on a 140K salary? Do tell how, lol. I bought a house in the sought after area of St Albans in 1998, even in 2024 that 4bed house is only worth 500,000., 

 

Anyway, I was able to buy houses, whilst they're not worth millions, retaining my autonomy is priceless, being tied to a 60 year old aging woman because of finances would be my idea of a living nightmare.

 

My two kids also go to private school, btw, hardly a big accomplishment, tons of guys on here send their kids to private school.

 

Your wife pocketed all of the money from her salary, which to me is seriously dim.

 

A profit margin of 10% in a good quality restaurant is another seriously dim comment. (Especially as most of the takings were cash). 

 

"...being tied to a 60 year old aging woman because of finances would be my idea of a living nightmare.", where did I say I am tied, try and read the details, try and read more slowly, I wrote "Ex-Wife", we split the money years ago.

 

I started buying houses in 1985 when they cost next to nothing, eg the first house when I was in my 20's cost £42k, with a deposit of 10%, another example was another one bought in 1994, paid £175k (mortgage), sold it two years ago for £750k, those are just two examples. In those days all you had to do was fill out a self-assessment mortgage form and you had the mortgage offer within two weeks.

 

You really should read what people have written instead of ranting on like a madman, I said "....they are now worth millions of pounds", I did not say I bought houses costing millions as they cost bugger all when I bought them decades ago. 

 

I know all of these things seem impossible to people who have been employees all of their lives, but they are not.

 

It must be a tiddly little house if it is only worth 500k now in a place like St Albans (I went there lots of times as a friend lived there), it looks like you missed the boat a long time ago.

 

"....tons of guys on here send their kids to private school.", yes true, but there is no way you can compare private schools in Thailand to private schools in England, the rich Thais here send their kids to school in the UK. 

 

I don't understand your angry reaction to my comments, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about something. 

 

If I were to show off and lie about things I would lie and say I have hundreds of millions, not just millions, you won't believe this but my brother does have that amount in properties, he has been building nursing homes  for years and a management team has been running them for him.

 

[Cameroni]

6 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

Your wife pocketed all of the money from her salary, which to me is seriously dim.

 

A profit margin of 10% in a good quality restaurant is another seriously dim comment. (Especially as most of the takings were cash). 

 

"...being tied to a 60 year old aging woman because of finances would be my idea of a living nightmare.", where did I say I am tied, try and read the details, try and read more slowly, I wrote "Ex-Wife", we split the money years ago.

 

I started buying houses in 1985 when they cost next to nothing, eg the first house when I was in my 20's cost £42k, with a deposit of 10%, another example was another one bought in 1994, paid £175k (mortgage), sold it two years ago for £750k, those are just two examples. In those days all you had to do was fill out a self-assessment mortgage form and you had the mortgage offer within two weeks.

 

You really should read what people have written instead of ranting on like a madman, I said "....they are now worth millions of pounds", I did not say I bought houses costing millions as they cost bugger all when I bought them decades ago. 

 

I know all of these things seem impossible to people who have been employees all of their lives, but they are not.

 

It must be a tiddly little house if it is only worth 500k now in a place like St Albans (I went there lots of times as a friend lived there), it looks like you missed the boat a long time ago.

 

"....tons of guys on here send their kids to private school.", yes true, but there is no way you can compare private schools in Thailand to private schools in England, the rich Thais here send their kids to school in the UK. 

 

I don't understand your angry reaction to my comments, you seem to have a chip on your shoulder about something. 

 

If I were to show off and lie about things I would lie and say I have hundreds of millions, not just millions, you won't believe this but my brother does have that amount in properties, he has been building nursing homes  for years and a management team has been running them for him.

 

 

Well, I was making plenty of scooby snacks, why would I take her chow?

 

I bought the very large 4bed house in St Albans in 1998 it cost72000 GBP,  now worth 500,000 GBP, but even if you bought in 1985 fo 42000 it's not worth millions now, nor is the one from 1994, but the 750K is just about within the realms of the possible, so you made 640K, not bad, but not millions is it?

 

You don't have to tell me the cost of private school, I went to a British private school mysellf, there's huge price differentials.

 

What do you mean if you lied, you DID lie, you said millions and actually made about 640K you lying hound. And now your brother has hundreds of millions? Lol. This is like brothers Grimm...

[Hummin]

On 10/11/2024 at 2:36 PM, Sigmund said:

The main rule of the thumb here is never "buy"...always "rent" !!

 

Always be worth more alive, then dead. Putting anything in the woman's name is the last thing to do if you want to live long enough. It's same back in the West but here one can get bumped off just for a scooter.

 

Many think they are the one and only, while behind their backs,  the fine lady is enjoying intimate yoga with multiple other partners.

Where did you read this? Bangkok Books? 

[JamesPhuket10]

19 hours ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, I was making plenty of scooby snacks, why would I take her chow?

 

I bought the very large 4bed house in St Albans in 1998 it cost72000 GBP,  now worth 500,000 GBP, but even if you bought in 1985 fo 42000 it's not worth millions now, nor is the one from 1994, but the 750K is just about within the realms of the possible, so you made 640K, not bad, but not millions is it?

 

You don't have to tell me the cost of private school, I went to a British private school mysellf, there's huge price differentials.

 

What do you mean if you lied, you DID lie, you said millions and actually made about 640K you lying hound. And now your brother has hundreds of millions? Lol. This is like brothers Grimm...

 

I clearly stated the two houses I mentioned were examples, also I did not say any one of the houses individually was worth millions, the combination of all the houses was worth that, read it again. 

 

Your replies are like Brothers Dim as you skip over the details of what I wrote and come up with some imaginary story. 

 

I hope your job in the insurance company was not related to the risk, the actuarial component as the company would have gone bankrupt. 

 

[Sigmund]

20 hours ago, Hummin said:

Where did you read this? Bangkok Books? 

If you ask means you have never read a book.

[Lacessit]

35% of my assets are in Thailand, under my control. 65% are in Australia.

 

The 35% will go to my Thai GF when I cark it. It's in her interest I stay alive as long as possible. It's also in her interest we stay together.

 

I would take some kind of financial hit if I was refused an extension on my visa. Otherwise no.

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, Sigmund said:

If you ask means you have never read a book.

You just post nonsense typical referring the Bangkok books bar scene 🙄 

[fredwiggy]

On 10/12/2024 at 11:06 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Moany guys on AN, well documented 

Maybe those who actually see what goes on here and know why people move away from Thailand by the thousands. Hardly moaning when you want a better life where you're guaranteed not to be made to leave someday.

[fredwiggy]

On 10/11/2024 at 7:36 PM, Sigmund said:

The main rule of the thumb here is never "buy"...always "rent" !!

 

Always be worth more alive, then dead. Putting anything in the woman's name is the last thing to do if you want to live long enough. It's same back in the West but here one can get bumped off just for a scooter.

 

Many think they are the one and only, while behind their backs,  the fine lady is enjoying intimate yoga with multiple other partners.

The one problem with that , is that if some of us are "bumped off", we have others waiting in the wings to demolish the ones who did it. Some people think they can get away with anything, but that doesn't work with some. And not all women are cheaters. Maybe 40% tops, and men around 70%, which leaves a lot of people who know what morality means.

[Celsius]

It is cringe to read about all these big shots making money and having killer investments, yet living in the boonies of Isaan in $500 rentals.

 

Something went wrong.

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Maybe those who actually see what goes on here and know why people move away from Thailand by the thousands. Hardly moaning when you want a better life where you're guaranteed not to be made to leave someday.

Most of the people I know went because of death.

There were a couple that ran out of money.

Not sure if a better life than the one I have here is humanly possible.

 

Out cycling every morning in perfect weather, this morning at 7am it was misty on the way out and sunny on the way back.

Edited October 14 by BritManToo

[JamesPhuket10]

23 hours ago, Celsius said:

It is cringe to read about all these big shots making money and having killer investments, yet living in the boonies of Isaan in $500 rentals.

 

Something went wrong.

 

Especially when they then get on their 20-year-old Honda Dream 120CC bike and ride off home. 😄

 

Who would want to live in upcountry Isaan surrounded by thousands of ex-bar girls? 

[JimmyTobacco]

My girlfriend actually told me she prefers to be with a Farang BECAUSE a Farang does not expect to pay everything for his woman. She thinks that most Thai men are old-fashioned in the sense that they will expect to pay for their woman, making her dependent upon him. She told me that with me, she can feel like she contributes as much financially as me, and feels she is her own woman more than she ever could with a Thai man. I couldn't believe it when she told me, he had to ask her for clarification about 3 times before I was convinced I had heard it right and it was not just something else getting lost in translation. Normally we use an app to split our expenses 50-50. Food, rent, everything. I do sometimes offer to pay for things which I know are expensive for her or that she normally would not do or get if it wasn't for me. But we are generally talking about relatively small things. Pizza, massage, something like that.

 

And no we are not married, but she tells me she is not so interested in marriage in general.

 

You'd be surprised how independent some Thai women are, especially if they have a decent income themselves.

 

And with all of this, my gf still does not expect or even want me to do half of the household, like an independent woman in my country would. She honestly treats me like a <deleted> king. If I attempt to clean up, she will tell me "go rest, you are tired", even though she works more than me. She won't take no for an answer. She does so much for me. I do make sure I give her some good D in return most nights. I've had one relationship before with a western woman and it was the total opposite. She was arrogant, terribly lazy, expected me to clean up after her, just horrible. Didn't want sex most days cause she was too tired. I will likely never go back to western women.

 

Sure, many Thai women who are with westerners think of the whole picture; the prospects of maybe moving to a better house or being able to travel a bit do help, but mostly Thai women are interested in being with a decent guy who doesn't drink too much, doesn't beat her and doesn't cheat too much. However, I will also admit that I like being with a Thai woman because of the entire picture, including the fact that it makes it easier for me to live in Thailand.

[JimTripper]

On 10/11/2024 at 12:29 PM, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

Real simple. Older men flock to Thailand because of woke libturdishness in the West. Ever seen how nasty looking and scowling Western women look these days? Sheesh. If looks could kill. Couldn't imagine entering into some kind of legal agreement with them. Thanks to all the woke sh!t these Western b1tches hate men - and they don't even know why - that's how effective the programming has been.

A lot of them may actually be lesbians...

 

The last time I visited California in the USA there seemed to be a lot more gender identity/gay/lesbian/whatever stuff going on.

 

Stuff that was so strange that I have never come across it before. Like women who were having sex changes into men, but wanted to not be addressed with male pronouns because they were really both male & female and a bunch of head games and convoluted stuff like that. The more complicated it was the more they seemed to be into it.

 

More then any time in the past I was asking myself if someone was lesbian or gay or if they had some odd identity issue that I needed to take into consideration in order to not offend, or even how I greeted people. It's not the same space I grew up in during the 70's/80's.

 

I also seemed to be encountering a lot of gay guys. When I grew up that was an oddity and way out there in left field. These days it seems almost 50/50 someone is gay.

 

 

Edited October 18 by JimTripper

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

16 hours ago, JimTripper said:

The last time I visited California in the USA there seemed to be a lot more gender identity/gay/lesbian/whatever stuff going on.

 

16 hours ago, JimTripper said:

It's not the same space I grew up in during the 70's/80's

The programming has indeed been effective. Population control. Destroy intimacy btwn men and women thereby preventing sexual union and limiting (if not eliminating) the chance of offspring. The powers that be are trans humanists who want microchipped brains and slavebots, not free thinkers. They'll do anything to keep women hating men and men disinterested in women - at least in the West.

 

I wish I woulda grown up in the 70s but I did catch the tail end (pun intended) of the 80s...

[JimTripper]

1 hour ago, Woke to Sounds of Horking said:

The programming has indeed been effective. Population control. Destroy intimacy btwn men and women thereby preventing sexual union and limiting (if not eliminating) the chance of offspring. The powers that be are trans humanists who want microchipped brains and slavebots, not free thinkers. They'll do anything to keep women hating men and men disinterested in women - at least in the West.

 

I wish I woulda grown up in the 70s but I did catch the tail end (pun intended) of the 80s...

I wanted to be a rock star or famous artist when I lived in the USA as a man over 50 with no obvious wealth of means...

 

Getting laid was like winning the lottery. Dates were an interview, with the first question being 'what do you do?' and the associated financial means undertone.

 

Approaching anyone in their 20's was a big no-no and likely to lead to arrest. Lots of single guys stroking their pud most of the time around were I was.

 

Some moved, some expatriated to places like Mexico. Some are probably still there watching the years dwindle away their sex drive to the point where it's not a primary concern any longer. I don't hear much about guys getting happily married and moving off, but I think it still happens if they are coming out of college and what have you.

[Woke to Sounds of Horking]

39 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Dates were an interview, with the first question being 'what do you do?' and the associated financial means undertone.

The first question for females interested only in breeding -- or taking you for a financial ride down the line...

 

39 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Approaching anyone in their 20's was a big no-no and likely to lead to arrest.

You cannot so much even GLANCE in the direction of a female in the West now without fear of being prosecuted by the law. As I said - it's an agenda.

 

39 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

Lots of single guys stroking their pud most of the time around were I was.

Well, it's less hassle and less expense 😅 -- but understandable considering all the anti-Men sentiment ruling the West right now

 

39 minutes ago, JimTripper said:

I don't hear much about guys getting happily married and moving off, but I think it still happens if they are coming out of college and what have you.

Still happens but it's the exception not the norm as during my parents' generation (1950s-60s era)

Edited October 19 by Woke to Sounds of Horking
Clarity

[GinBoy2]

Get real boys, you honestly think a girl half your age is in any way attracted to you physically?

 

Money talks. Does any anyone actually think Melania is actually attracted to Trump?

 

Of course not, Melania is just a HiSo hooker, difference in Thailand is you're working with a lot less money and the girls need to cash out quick