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[riclag]

…“What he’s talking about about is real”. A response to the keffeyah wearing rally attendee.

 

“The vice president has never previously suggested that Israel’s defensive war in Gaza amounts to a genocide of Palestinian people”.

 

“Kamala Harris just publicly validated the false and vicious accusation that Israel is engaging in genocide,” David Friedman, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, told The Post Saturday”.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/19/us-news/kamala-harris-publicly-agrees-with-protestor-accusing-israel-of-genocide-what-hes-talking-about-its-real/

[mdr224]

What i would say to american islam supporters is if they feel so strongly about their opinion they should consider going to live in iran/palestine. But they wouldnt because the left says things only to virtue signal

[riclag]

1 minute ago, mdr224 said:

What i would say to american islam supporters is if they feel so strongly about their opinion they should consider going to live in iran/palestine. But they wouldnt because the left says things only to virtue signal

He looked like another one of those marxist college campuses pro Palestine useful idiots , that we’ve grown accustomed to seeing .imop

[jerrymahoney]

21 minutes ago, riclag said:

He looked like another one of those marxist college campuses pro Palestine useful idiots , that we’ve grown accustomed to seeing .imop

That's your imop. Here's my imop

[Dcheech]

55 minutes ago, riclag said:

David Friedman, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, told The Post Saturday”.

 

Under the Trump administration. A bankruptcy lawyer. He got the position because of his support, monetary support for Trump. He bought the position, just like Betsy Devos bought hers. Donald, Show me the money, Trump. And that from the bastion of the free press; The New York Post.

Still, the best you can throw against a wall Cut & Paste today so ....  
 

[dinsdale]

In all fairness I think the “What he’s talking about about is real” bit is her saying civilian deaths are real. Of course this is happening but it's because they are being used as human shields but let's face it no Oct 7 and no hostages and this wouldn't be happening.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

I think you'll find that the left agenda legacy media is very much NOT innocent of the very same thing you mention.

Good people on both sides, blah blah blah.

[dinsdale]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Good people on both sides, blah blah blah.

"blah blah blah" Is this the best you've got? The usual response from someone who has no answers. Bit like K...a...m...a...l...a.

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

"blah blah blah" Is this the best you've got? The usual response from someone who has no answers. Bit like K...a...m...a...l...a.

Who has no answers exactly?

 

 

[dinsdale]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Who has no answers exactly?

 

 

Well thank you. You have just shown us all you have no idea. This is Trump having a go at Harris when HER teleprompter crashed.

 

[riclag]

17 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Well thank you. You have just shown us all you have no idea. This is Trump having a go at Harris when HER teleprompter crashed.

 

harris/ biden administration publicly stated they didn’t want Israeli  forces

going into Rafah back in March.More visions of bad decisions from the team 

of dumb diplomacy .

 

Netanyahu’s decision to ignore Biden, Harris warnings not to invade Rafah responsible for Sinwar’s death: experts

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/19/world-news/netanyahus-defiance-of-biden-harris-rafah-invasion-threats-led-to-elimination-of-sinwar-experts-say/

 

[dinsdale]

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

harris/ biden administration publicly stated they didn’t want Israeli  forces

going into Rafah back in March.More visions of bad decisions from the team 

of dumb diplomacy .

 

Netanyahu’s decision to ignore Biden, Harris warnings not to invade Rafah responsible for Sinwar’s death: experts

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/19/world-news/netanyahus-defiance-of-biden-harris-rafah-invasion-threats-led-to-elimination-of-sinwar-experts-say/

 

Yep. If the IDF weren't there then the orchestrator of Oct 7 would still be there. Sadly on this forum there are people who have no idea. They have no idea because they believe the legacy media. One would have thought that the last four years is evidence enough to take off the blinkers.

[mdr224]

11 minutes ago, riclag said:

harris/ biden administration publicly stated they didn’t want Israeli  forces

going into Rafah back in March.More visions of bad decisions from the team 

of dumb diplomacy .

 

Netanyahu’s decision to ignore Biden, Harris warnings not to invade Rafah responsible for Sinwar’s death: experts

 

https://nypost.com/2024/10/19/world-news/netanyahus-defiance-of-biden-harris-rafah-invasion-threats-led-to-elimination-of-sinwar-experts-say/

 

Truly incompetent bunch running the white house. Looks like israel has to carry all the weight under democrat leadership

[dinsdale]

6 minutes ago, mdr224 said:

Truly incompetent bunch running the white house. Looks like israel has to carry all the weight under democrat leadership

It's what you get with DEI. Not the smartest people but DEI isn't about that. It's about virtue signaling and being hostage to the woke agenda. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by dinsdale

[Yellowtail]

55 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Who has no answers exactly?

 

 

So you agree with Harris that Israel is committing genocide?

[BangkokReady]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

"blah blah blah" Is this the best you've got? The usual response from someone who has no answers. Bit like K...a...m...a...l...a.

 

Not just "blah blah blah", "but blah blah" then a lie that has been debunked repeatedly but left-wing nut-jobs just won't let go of, no matter how many times people point out that it's wrong.

 

They sit on a throne of lies.

Edited 1 hour ago by BangkokReady

[BangkokReady]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

…“What he’s talking about about is real”. A response to the keffeyah wearing rally attendee.

 

“The vice president has never previously suggested that Israel’s defensive war in Gaza amounts to a genocide of Palestinian people”.

 

“Kamala Harris just publicly validated the false and vicious accusation that Israel is engaging in genocide,” David Friedman, a former U.S. ambassador to Israel, told The Post Saturday”.

https://nypost.com/2024/10/19/us-news/kamala-harris-publicly-agrees-with-protestor-accusing-israel-of-genocide-what-hes-talking-about-its-real/

 

You seem a little confused about discussing things that someone has said.  You should quote what they say, of course, but you don't then quote someone else's opinion about what that person has said, as if that is proof that they meant whatever that person is claiming.

 

So, the first quote is useful, while the second two quotes are meaningless.  You should enhance the first quote by adding relevant context and more quotes from the actual discussion.  As it is, your post has a very propagandist/misinformation feel to it.  And I'm no fan of Harris.

[riclag]

9 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

You seem a little confused about discussing things that someone has said.  You should quote what they say, of course, but you don't then quote someone else's opinion about what that person has said, as if that is proof that they meant whatever that person is claiming.

 

So, the first quote is useful, while the second two quotes are meaningless.  You should enhance the first quote by adding relevant context and more quotes from the actual discussion.  As it is, your post has a very propagandist/misinformation feel to it.  And I'm no fan of Harris.

The first quote puts harris at the scene of the incompetence, (the acknowledgment of genocide by Israel defending themselves against  hamas who uses Gazaian’s as human shields!

 

The second quote was from A expert in 

Israeli issues in that region condemning harris incompetence.

 

[BangkokReady]

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

The first quote puts harris at the scene of the incompetence, (the acknowledgment of genocide by Israel defending themselves against  hamas who uses Gazaian’s as human shields!

 

It doesn't do that, though, as you've failed to supply enough context.  

 

You've quoted her saying "What he's talking about is real", but you've failed to explain who "he" is or what "he's talking about".

 

It's very weak.

 

6 minutes ago, riclag said:

The second quote was from A expert in 

Israeli issues in that region condemning harris incompetence.

 

You're claiming it is an expert, but it's just someone's opinion, and they may not be an expert at all.  Also, given the topic, they might be heavily biased and lying.  It's simply something that you are claiming.

 

The best thing to do is to just present everything that is said, then let people make up their own minds.

 

As I said, you've not really presented the facts very well and you're relying mostly on opinion to make your point, so it feels a lot like propaganda.

 

Out of context quote + random person saying "they said X but this actually means they are saying Y and that makes them bad" = a very weak post.

[riclag]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

It doesn't do that, though, as you've failed to supply enough context.  

 

You've quoted her saying "What he's talking about is real", but you've failed to explain who "he" is or what "he's talking about".

 

It's very weak.

 

 

You're claiming it is an expert, but it's just someone's opinion, and they may not be an expert at all.  Also, given the topic, they might be heavily biased and lying.  It's simply something that you are claiming.

 

The best thing to do is to just present everything that is said, then let people make up their own minds.

 

As I said, you've not really presented the facts very well and you're relying mostly on opinion to make your point, so it feels a lot like propaganda.

 

Out of context quote + random person saying "they said X but this actually means they are saying Y and that makes them bad" = a very weak post.

The facts are in the article!

The inconsistency of playing both sides

by the biden/ harris administration because of their incompetence in dealing with terrorist is on display since Oct 7.

 

 

[BangkokReady]

4 minutes ago, riclag said:

The facts are in the article!

 

And the facts, as in the exchange reported in the article, suggest that she is saying that the things that the man is talking about are happening, as in the people he is claiming are being killed are being killed.  The exchange doesn't suggest that she is agreeing that there is genocide.

 

The lines you quoted, however, do suggest that.

 

The article seems to be twisting Harris's words, as are you.

 

Presumable, this is why you have chosen to quote only a very small amount of what Harris has said, while you've quoted multiple lines from the person accusing her of something.

 

So, upon inspecting the article (the facts), it makes it even more clear that you are being deceptive.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Yep. If the IDF weren't there then the orchestrator of Oct 7 would still be there. Sadly on this forum there are people who have no idea. They have no idea because they believe the legacy media. One would have thought that the last four years is evidence enough to take off the blinkers.

quote "One would have thought that the last four years is evidence enough to take off the blinkers".

 

Really?

 

Perhaps you should research your subject more thoroughly.

 

Try going back to 1948 and beyond, and look at the problems between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

 

The Jewish people claim that their 'god', who has never been seen, gave Israel to them some 4 or 5,000 years ago. It is only mentioned in the Jewish holy book and nowhere else.

[dinsdale]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

quote "One would have thought that the last four years is evidence enough to take off the blinkers".

 

Really?

 

Perhaps you should research your subject more thoroughly.

 

Try going back to 1948 and beyond, and look at the problems between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

 

The Jewish people claim that their 'god', who has never been seen, gave Israel to them some 4 or 5,000 years ago. It is only mentioned in the Jewish holy book and nowhere else.

You have misread my post. I'm talking about believing the legacy media. What has happened in the last four yrs? Hint. Safe and effective. Perhaps you should read people's posts more thoroughly. I'm guessing your going to hit the sad or confused emoji for this but that's fine. Maybe you are sad and confused.

[Yellowtail]

12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

quote "One would have thought that the last four years is evidence enough to take off the blinkers".

 

Really?

 

Perhaps you should research your subject more thoroughly.

 

Try going back to 1948 and beyond, and look at the problems between the Palestinians and the Israelis.

 

The Jewish people claim that their 'god', who has never been seen, gave Israel to them some 4 or 5,000 years ago. It is only mentioned in the Jewish holy book and nowhere else.

Does the Palestinians' god not command them to kill all Jews?