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In order to evaluate 'high IQ' among populations you should only look at those who have what is regarded as 'high IQ'

Take away everyone with less than 2 standard deviations higher than the norm (~130) and then compare the ratios.

Ignoring anyone with lower scores. Good luck with getting access to those figures.

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Absolutely NOT.

 

This is a great explanation:

https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/

 

Consider "[Israel] remains economically dependent upon regular handouts from Germany and the USA. Even after 70 years, it is not the advanced society that one would expect a uniquely high average IQ society to be. The reason, of course, is that it is not."

 

 

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6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What's the next ethnic/racial group to start a baiting topic about?

 

 

 

 

 

How can it be an ethnic/racial group if you can convert to it?

Also, if they are 'semetic' (middle eastern) why are so many of them are SO pasty / white?

 

Jewishness makes for a great defence though - if anyone criticises you (rightly or wrongly) you can cry

'anTIseMitiST!'

 

Would be pleasantly surprising i fyou could answer the questions above and not go adhom but I've seen enough of your posts to know what's coming : )

Go on, call me 'anTIseMetiC' or some other baseless b*******  😂

 

 

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4 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

I think trying to access someone's IQ when they believe - like muslims, christians, hindu, budists etc - in a deity that cannot be proven exists , lowers IQ considerably in my opinion.

 

 

 

Believing in the 'Big Bang' *THEORY* (space dust magically becoming space jizz magically evolving into humans) that *CANNOT BE PROVEN* is also a sign of low IQ / high gullibility 😉

 

PS. It's assess NOT access x

 

 

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Are all Jews smart?  I have a buddy who he thinks himself brilliant.  He's really getting by on improvised bs and arrogance.  A few minutes of conversation with him will shatter your perceptions regarding the title of this thread.

For those of you who were educated in Catholicism, have you ever wondered what happened to "doubting Thomas" after his signature episode?  Search on

cochin india jews

 

How can you recognize a Jew?  Try reading Malamud's "The Angel Levine."   (It's a short story, also there is also a movie of it from long ago, haven't seen it myself.)

 

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35 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

Absolutely NOT.

 

This is a great explanation:

https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/

 

Consider "[Israel] remains economically dependent upon regular handouts from Germany and the USA. Even after 70 years, it is not the advanced society that one would expect a uniquely high average IQ society to be. The reason, of course, is that it is not."

 

 

Israel is not the same thing as Jews.

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27 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

How can it be an ethnic/racial group if you can convert to it?

Also, if they are 'semetic' (middle eastern) why are so many of them are SO pasty / white?

 

Jewishness makes for a great defence though - if anyone criticises you (rightly or wrongly) you can cry

'anTIseMitiST!'

 

Would be pleasantly surprising i fyou could answer the questions above and not go adhom but I've seen enough of your posts to know what's coming : )

Go on, call me 'anTIseMetiC' or some other baseless b*******  😂

 

 

Well good luck with that.

You've outed yourself already. No need to say more.

As far as the ethnicity thing. Jews are not a race. The majority of Jews are identifiable as part of a few ethnic groups including Ashkenazim. Conversion is very much NOT encouraged. You need to actively work towards it with your own motivation and work hard at it. Or be born to a Jewish mother. Your choice. Basically, Jews are an ETHNORELIGIOUS group. Like Kurds. A person can be a Jewish person and often is without any involvement in religious faith part of it whatsoever. That's the ETHNO part of that word.

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7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What's the next ethnic/racial group to start a baiting topic about?

 

 

I'm going to go deeper into this and will likely offend. Oh well. It's for a purpose which I will explain.

 

This very topic just for what it is open invitation to racism and bigotry against Jews.

 

How can that be when the premise is high IQ, not low IQ

See how the OP continues predictably bringing up age old antisemtiic tropes about Jews and money, controlling the banks, and so on. 

 

So not so positive after all.

 

Compare to this idea for a topic:

 

Do black people have low IQ?

 

Then an OP saying, but heck they're great athletes and they sure have rythym when they dance.

 

In my view, such an obviously disgusting RACIST topic about blacks which I bring up hypothetically is exactly of the same category as this topic about Jews.

 

Nobody should start such a topic about blacks, and nobody should have started this topic about Jews.

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well good luck with that.

You've outed yourself already. No need to say more.

As far as the ethnicity thing. Jews are not a race. The majority of Jews are identifiable as part of a few ethnic groups including Ashkenazim. Conversion is very much NOT encouraged. You need to actively work towards it with your own motivation and work hard at it. Or be born to a Jewish mother. Your choice. Basically, Jews are an ETHNORELIGIOUS group. Like Kurds. A person can be a Jewish person and often is without any involvement in religious faith part of it whatsoever. That's the ETHNO part of that word.

 

'Jew' is a basically meaningless term then:

 

"part of a few ethnic groups" so it's NOT 1 ethnic group?

So yuou're saying they're NOT 'semetic' / from the middle east?

 

Also would point out most jews I've met are atheist so not sure what they have to "work hard at"?

 

To summarise: a LOT of them (MOST?) are VERY white & VERY atheist

so  'etho'  'religious' makes zero sense to us 'goys'

 

Thanks for confirming  tho 👍

 

x

 

 

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6 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

'Jew' is a basically meaningless term then:

 

"part of a few ethnic groups" so it's NOT 1 ethnic group?

So yuou're saying they're NOT 'semetic' / from the middle east?

 

Also would point out most jews I've met are atheist so not sure what they have to "work hard at"?

 

Thanks for confirming  tho 👍

 

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   But the reality of the situation doesn't revolve around the "Jews that you've met"

  There's a bigger World out there , much more than your personal experience 

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I find it admirable that of the three major Abrahamic religions Judaism is the only one that DOES NOT seek converts, whereas, in days of olde,  the other two threatened death if conversion is refused.  Every so often a celebrity conversion happens, most well known (at least in the time of my youth) were Liz Taylor and Sammy Davis Jr.  Bringing this up to adult Jews was always met with a laugh.  Then there is Spielberg's wife who converted and is more observant than her husband.

Oh yeah, and that guy that the New Testament is all about, I never heard about him renouncing his original religion.  If he does comes back, which a lot of people are waiting to happen, he could be found in the synagogue on Saturday morning.  He'll paraphrase Groucho: "I would never join a religion that worships me!"  How can someone who is an anti-semite have a Jewish savior? 

 

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Jews who are Jewish because they were born to a Jewish mother are automatically Jews whether they grow up to practice the religion, atheist, or not.

The Jews who really need to work hard at it are converts. 

Unlike Christianity and Islam Jews are not seeking converts.

Aside from genocides, why do you think there are so few Jews in the world?

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4 minutes ago, BruceWayne said:

 

To ADL RIchard:

 

What is a Jew to you (apart from a liability shield)?

 

Jew' is a fairly meaningless term imho - comparable to 'man utd fan'

 

"part of a few ethnic groups" so it's NOT 1 ethnic group?

So yuou're saying they're NOT 'semetic' / from the middle east?

 

Also would point out most jews are atheist or iffy (see the rabbi who owns prornhub or rabbi schmulley who sell butt plugs etc.)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  Dude, your posts are all over the place .

I cannot understand what you want to say 

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As said Jews are not ONE ethnic group. But include a few that are definitely Jewish ethnic groups. As far as genetics most Jews in those  Jewish ethnic groups other than recent converts will have genetic ties to the Middle east, including Palestinian Arabs and Italians.

If you go to Colombia you will find many Catholics who were originally exiled Jews who were forced to convert with identifiable genetics to Sephardim.

 

Types of Jews | My Jewish Learning

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1 hour ago, BruceWayne said:

Absolutely NOT.

 

This is a great explanation:

https://voxday.net/2018/04/29/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence/

 

Consider "[Israel] remains economically dependent upon regular handouts from Germany and the USA. Even after 70 years, it is not the advanced society that one would expect a uniquely high average IQ society to be. The reason, of course, is that it is not."

 

 


Sephardic Jews make up over 50% of the Jewish population in Israel. The Ashkenazi Jews are only about 30%. And then the rest is a mix. The Jewish group that is known to have a higher IQ are the Ashkenazi Jews and they are not the dominant race in Israel.  

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Sephardic Jews make up over 50% of the Jewish population in Israel. The Ashkenazi Jews are only about 30%. And then the rest is a mix. The Jewish group that is known to have a higher IQ are the Ashkenazi Jews and they are not the dominant race in Israel.  

Correct that Ashkenazim are not the majority in Israel, but they have become more and more mixed.

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13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

As said Jews are not ONE ethnic group. But include a few that are definitely Jewish ethnic groups. As far as genetics most Jews in those  Jewish ethnic groups other than recent converts will have genetic ties to the Middle east, including Palestinian Arabs and Italians.

If you go to Colombia you will find many Catholics who were originally exiled Jews who were forced to convert with identifiable genetics to Sephardim.

 

Types of Jews | My Jewish Learning


You might find this interesting:

 

The ancestors of Ashkenazi Jewish people migrated from Western Asia into Southern Europe around 2,000 years ago. Then — in the Middle Ages — many Jewish people living in southern Europe moved north, primarily to northeastern France and western Germany near the Rhine River. It was there that a distinct religious, cultural, and genetic Jewish identity formed, and the people came to be called “Ashkenazi” after Ashkenaz, a descendant of Noah in the Hebrew bible.

 

While the geographic origins of the Ashkenazi Jewish population lie in Central and Eastern Europe, the DNA of Ashkenazi Jewish people is more similar to historical Southern European and Western Asian populations, reflecting early stages of the Jewish diaspora. However, there is evidence of limited Central and Eastern European ancestry introduced more recently into the Ashkenazi gene pool. Written in the DNA of Ashkenazi Jewish people is evidence of a significant population bottleneck in Europe over 600 years ago, followed by a rapid population expansion. A “bottleneck” occurs whenever there is a decrease in the size of a population (in this case, a result of persecution and expulsion), and some researchers estimate that most Ashkenazi Jewish people descend from a few hundred (only 300 perhaps) “founding” individuals who lived in Central Europe around 30 generations ago.

 

Although not made-up from a country or region, the Ashkenazi Jews are given their own reference population group in the field of DNA testing and Ancestry Composition because Ashkenazi Jews are so genetically distinct.

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8 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

Seriously - I think they do, really...they seem sharp as a knife in person.

 

This statement seems to be more about the observer than the observed. 🙃

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:


You might find this interesting:

 

The ancestors of Ashkenazi Jewish people migrated from Western Asia into Southern Europe around 2,000 years ago. Then — in the Middle Ages — many Jewish people living in southern Europe moved north, primarily to northeastern France and western Germany near the Rhine River. It was there that a distinct religious, cultural, and genetic Jewish identity formed, and the people came to be called “Ashkenazi” after Ashkenaz, a descendant of Noah in the Hebrew bible.

 

While the geographic origins of the Ashkenazi Jewish population lie in Central and Eastern Europe, the DNA of Ashkenazi Jewish people is more similar to historical Southern European and Western Asian populations, reflecting early stages of the Jewish diaspora. However, there is evidence of limited Central and Eastern European ancestry introduced more recently into the Ashkenazi gene pool. Written in the DNA of Ashkenazi Jewish people is evidence of a significant population bottleneck in Europe over 600 years ago, followed by a rapid population expansion. A “bottleneck” occurs whenever there is a decrease in the size of a population (in this case, a result of persecution and expulsion), and some researchers estimate that most Ashkenazi Jewish people descend from a few hundred (only 300 perhaps) “founding” individuals who lived in Central Europe around 30 generations ago.

 

Although not made-up from a country or region, the Ashkenazi Jews are given their own reference population group in the field of DNA testing and Ancestry Composition because Ashkenazi Jews are so genetically distinct.

Yes the small founding numbers has a lot of current credibility but originally the origin is from the diaspora from ancient Israel. 

 

I don't know if this has advanced over the years, but I have heard it's often a waste of money to do one of those genetic testing things if you know you're Ashkenazim, because most likely they'll just tell you what you already know, that you're Ashkenazism without a long list in fun other details that most people get.

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39 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes the small founding numbers has a lot of current credibility but originally the origin is from the diaspora from ancient Israel. 

 

I don't know if this has advanced over the years, but I have heard it's often a waste of money to do one of those genetic testing things if you know you're Ashkenazim, because most likely they'll just tell you what you already know, that you're Ashkenazism without a long list in fun other details that most people get.


That depends if there was a break within the Ashkenazism bloodline or not. Thus, a DNA test might show you are a minority percentage of Northern European, if there was perhaps ever any infidelity going on. It's seems pretty unlikely, but still possible. If it did occur though then it probably would have been within the last 3-4 generations. Least likely 15-20 generations back because they lived more as an isolated tribe back then. You can try https://www.23andme.com/

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14 minutes ago, SoCal1990 said:

 

NOT if you live in Israel:

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/want-to-fully-understand-your-family-genealogy-not-without-a-court-order-585230

 

i.e They're trying to suppress the obvious truth:

'Jew' is a meaningless term

 

Most have zero connection with the middle east and are atheist AF

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, driver52 said:

didn't Obama get the Nobel Peace Prize after being in office for circa 8 months.....then the US went on to bomb exactly how many countries??

Draw your own conclusion about 'prizes' :whistling:

Your own IQ can't be all that high if you don't know the difference between physics, chemistry and the 'humanitarian ' sections.

 

Let me know when a politician gets one in physics. I won't hold my breath.

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I'm going to go deeper into this and will likely offend. Oh well. It's for a purpose which I will explain.

 

This very topic just for what it is open invitation to racism and bigotry against Jews.

 

How can that be when the premise is high IQ, not low IQ

See how the OP continues predictably bringing up age old antisemtiic tropes about Jews and money, controlling the banks, and so on. 

 

So not so positive after all.

 

Compare to this idea for a topic:

 

Do black people have low IQ?

 

Then an OP saying, but heck they're great athletes and they sure have rythym when they dance.

 

In my view, such an obviously disgusting RACIST topic about blacks which I bring up hypothetically is exactly of the same category as this topic about Jews.

 

Nobody should start such a topic about blacks, and nobody should have started this topic about Jews.

 

 

 

 

On the contrary, (IMHO) this is not a racist topic, BUT is an easy way in for racists to post their views.....  Unfortunately, (like many AN threads), the thread starts off with good intentions, but then is rapidly derailed by trolls, bigots etc 😞

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19 minutes ago, simon43 said:

On the contrary, (IMHO) this is not a racist topic, BUT is an easy way in for racists to post their views.....  Unfortunately, (like many AN threads), the thread starts off with good intentions, but then is rapidly derailed by trolls, bigots etc 😞

Good intentions, huh?

Like spreading antisemitic tropes about control of banking?

You're easily snookered.

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