Why do decent Americans support trump

[mogandave]

John Fetterman thinks PA goes Trump

[theblether]

7 hours ago, herfiehandbag said:

I haven't a notion and am not remotely interested - internal Irish Republican politics in the 1930s and early 1940s is totally irrelevant to the current US Presidential election.

 

"Blether" seems an appropriate "nickname"!

 

I know you don't have a notion but it won't prevent you from spouting worthless, completely wrong, and inane opinions on the Internet. 

 

You know the old saying about It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.

Edited 4 hours ago by theblether

[theblether]

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

John Fetterman thinks PA goes Trump

 

‘Daddy Was a Member of Hezbollah. He Brought That Danger, Evil Into Their Home,’ Fetterman Says

https://vinnews.com/2024/10/28/daddy-was-a-member-of-hezbollah-he-brought-that-danger-evil-into-their-home-fetterman-says/

[theblether]

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

They started counting votes in PA or is this just you telling another lie? 

 

I keep saying that the Dems had a 1.1 million early vote lead in 2020 and were crushed on election day. To be fair they eventually won by 80,000 votes. 

 

The current differential is 383,000 based upon party registration. Nowhere near enough to undermine on-the-day Republican voting. 

[bubblegum]

22 hours ago, theblether said:

I'm interested in your opinion. Here's my initial thoughts. 

 

Let's imagine for a moment that Harris is correct and a vote for Trump is a vote for a Nazi. Where does the USA go from here? 

 

Nearly 50% of the American population are Nazis. Really? 

 

What can be more divisive than labeling your political opponents Nazis? How can you divide like this then expect to unify the country under your Presidency? 

 

How will Harris deal with the 50% Nazi population? Gulags? That's been tried before with political opponents. 

 

But seriously - what's the game plan? 

 

The game plan is to make Trump an "illegitimate President" again from day one. Instead of Russia, Russia, Russia - its Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. 

 

As sure as night follows day if the Dems wins the House they will find an excuse to impeach Trump again. It's borderline that they will win the House in this election, they'll likely win it midterm. 

 

And then they'll impeach. What for? Don't know. They might hear Trump saying he likes German Shepherds or schnitzel. They'll then decide it's proof he's a card carrying Nazi. 

 

They've exhausted the Russia line. Now it's full on Godwins Law. 

 

And the problem is? Dem strategists are already warning it's not sticking. And after one near miss followed by a thwarted assassination attempt at the golf course, Dem strategists fear two things. 

 

1. Another attempt on Trump this week. 

 

2. Being labeled the hateful party. 

 

If there is another attempt on Trump before election day then this election is over. The low preponderance voters will show out in vast numbers for Trump. 

 

Not because they love  him. But because they are sick of the constant hateful rhetoric. 

 

So here's the problem. Harris has hitched herself to the hateful Hitlerite  third rail. Even if she wins next week, the shock of touching that toxic rail will define her Presidency. 

 

And if she loses? The Dems will make the Russia Hoax look like a chimps tea party. 

You are not at all interested in my opinion! You are spewing fals accusations, propaganda and mis information. Defending Trump is your day job.

[theblether]

Just now, bubblegum said:

You are not at all interested in my opinion! You are spewing fals accusations, propaganda and mis information. Defending Trump is your day job.

 

I am interested in your opinion. 

 

Feel free to turn your rage on the "foreigner" that keeps pointing out uncomfortable truths. How to win an election 101: 

 

Call your opponents - 

 

a) Deplorables

b) Fascists

c) Hitler

4) Garbage. 

 

Winning formula that from the "joy" campaign, eh? 

[bubblegum]

Just now, theblether said:

 

I am interested in your opinion. 

 

Feel free to turn your rage on the "foreigner" that keeps pointing out uncomfortable truths. How to win an election 101: 

 

Call your opponents - 

 

a) Deplorables

b) Fascists

c) Hitler

4) Garbage. 

 

Winning formula that from the "joy" campaign, eh? 

 

 

The enemy from within

Vermin

Marxist

Communist

Scum

Rapist

Child molesters

Garbage

 

 

[simple1]

The OP is based upon a lie:

 

Harris did not call Trump Hitler. The Democratic presidential nominee drew attention to recent statements from John Kelly, a retired four-star U.S. Marine Corps general and Trump’s former chief of staff. Kelly told The New York Times in recorded interviews that Trump made admiring comments about the Nazi dictator and his control of the German military.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/oct/24/donald-trump/kamala-harris-did-not-call-donald-trump-adolf-hitl/

[Talon]

9 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

I am interested in your opinion. 

 

Feel free to turn your rage on the "foreigner" that keeps pointing out uncomfortable truths. How to win an election 101: 

 

Call your opponents - 

 

a) Deplorables

b) Fascists

c) Hitler

4) Garbage. 

 

Winning formula that from the "joy" campaign, eh? 

 

 

Badge of Honor

 

 

[bubblegum]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

The OP is based upon a lie:

 

Harris did not call Trump Hitler. The Democratic presidential nominee drew attention to recent statements from John Kelly, a retired four-star U.S. Marine Corps general and Trump’s former chief of staff. Kelly told The New York Times in recorded interviews that Trump made admiring comments about the Nazi dictator and his control of the German military.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/oct/24/donald-trump/kamala-harris-did-not-call-donald-trump-adolf-hitl/

 

All their rhetoric is like that, all they have.

[theblether]

13 minutes ago, simple1 said:

The OP is based upon a lie:

 

Harris did not call Trump Hitler. The Democratic presidential nominee drew attention to recent statements from John Kelly, a retired four-star U.S. Marine Corps general and Trump’s former chief of staff. Kelly told The New York Times in recorded interviews that Trump made admiring comments about the Nazi dictator and his control of the German military.

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/oct/24/donald-trump/kamala-harris-did-not-call-donald-trump-adolf-hitl/

 

Really, are we back to the missing apostrophe argument? 

 

"OOOH, EH - she didn't actually say Trump was Hitler, just that he was a fascist." 

 

Get a grip on yourself. 

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-john-kelly-nazis-hitler-87d672e1ec1a6645808050fc60f6b8bc

[theblether]

Democrats and their allies in the media have long employed Nazi and fascist analogies to defame, discredit, and isolate political opponents such as Barry Goldwater, President Ronald Reagan, President George W. Bush, and former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. These historically illiterate smears have not only served to spike rigorous debate, increase political polarization, and minimize the evils perpetrated by Adolf Hitler and his forces but have also proven largely ineffective.

 

A super PAC supporting Harris recently acknowledged as much.

Future Forward USA Action, touted earlier this month by the New York Times as "an ad-making laboratory" with a $700 million war chest, suggested in an email to Democrats regarding effective campaign messaging that playing up the Trump-as-fascist fiction in the final stretch before Election Day is a strategic blunder.

The New York Times indicated that the email noted in bold type, "Attacking Trump's Fascism Is Not That Persuasive."

 

https://www.theblaze.com/news/harris-super-pac-points-out-that-democrats-nazi-strategy-isnt-working

[johng]

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

You have to hand it to Herr Hitler, he has made his mark for a long time.

 

As the huge billboard  on the way into Pattaya said

"Hitler is not dead"

[simple1]

4 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Really, are we back to the missing apostrophe argument? 

 

"OOOH, EH - she didn't actually say Trump was Hitler, just that he was a fascist." 

 

Get a grip on yourself. 

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-john-kelly-nazis-hitler-87d672e1ec1a6645808050fc60f6b8bc

 

Harris did not call out trump as a Nazi, nor Hitler, but a fascist - try as much as you want, your spin and others from MAGA world doesn't change the facts of the matter. In any case so far as I'm concerned trump has strong autocratic tendencies which one gathers just from his admiration of Orban and others.

[bubblegum]

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

Democrats and their allies in the media have long employed Nazi and fascist analogies to defame, discredit, and isolate political opponents such as Barry Goldwater, President Ronald Reagan, President George W. Bush, and former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. These historically illiterate smears have not only served to spike rigorous debate, increase political polarization, and minimize the evils perpetrated by Adolf Hitler and his forces but have also proven largely ineffective.

 

A super PAC supporting Harris recently acknowledged as much.

Future Forward USA Action, touted earlier this month by the New York Times as "an ad-making laboratory" with a $700 million war chest, suggested in an email to Democrats regarding effective campaign messaging that playing up the Trump-as-fascist fiction in the final stretch before Election Day is a strategic blunder.

The New York Times indicated that the email noted in bold type, "Attacking Trump's Fascism Is Not That Persuasive."

 

https://www.theblaze.com/news/harris-super-pac-points-out-that-democrats-nazi-strategy-isnt-working

Bias rating far right. Next

[theblether]

Just now, simple1 said:

 

Harris did not call out trump as a Nazi, nor Hitler, but a fascist - try as much as you want, your spin and others from MAGA world doesn't change the facts of the matter. In any case so far as I'm concerned trump has strong autocratic tendencies which one gathers just from his admiration of Orban and others.

 

Feel free to explain to the membership of this esteemed forum the difference between, Hitler, Nazi, and fascism. 

[theblether]

1 minute ago, bubblegum said:

Bias rating far right. Next

 

Quoting the New York Times and Future Forward USA is far right? 

 

Amazing, incredible. Just outstanding. 🤣

[theblether]

Here's the relevant article from the infamous right wing New York Times. 

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/us/politics/harris-trump-campaign-fascism.html

[Danderman123]

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

They started counting votes in PA or is this just you telling another lie? 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/pennsylvania-results

 

I hope you are capable of the math.

[theblether]

1 minute ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/pennsylvania-results

 

I hope you are capable of the math.

 

And? The Dem early vote lead in 2020 was 1.1 million, this time its 383,000. 

 

The GOP won the Penn State election date vote in 2020 by 1 million votes. 

 

You are taking undue comfort from what is actually cause for concern for the Dems. 

 

[theblether]

Here's what the ultra-right wing New York Times says about Pennsylvania early voting. Oooh, scary: 

 

"In Pennsylvania, for example, Republicans have been buoyed by a strong mail ballot return rate. While Republicans still trail Democrats in returning mail ballots, their early vote margins in the state have vastly improved since the 2020 election, when they were at a nearly 3-to-1 disadvantage in early mail voting. This year, the disparity is less than 2-to-1, with Democrats having returned about 850,000 mail ballots and Republicans about 468,000."

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/29/us/politics/early-voting-presidential-election.html

[KhaoTakiab]

13 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

A week before the election and the main platform for the democrats is Trump is a Nazi. That's it. Nothing else. Trump is a bad man. 

 

I can understand the Euro crowd not wanting Trump because he'll make them pay their fair share of the bill. 

What bill?

[Jingthing]

Here come the Pennsylvanian Ricans!

People are going to be surprised how many registered republicans are voting for Harris.

Especially women.

[mogandave]

1 hour ago, theblether said:

 

I am interested in your opinion. 

 

Feel free to turn your rage on the "foreigner" that keeps pointing out uncomfortable truths. How to win an election 101: 

 

Call your opponents - 

 

a) Deplorables

b) Fascists

c) Hitler

4) Garbage. 

 

Winning formula that from the "joy" campaign, eh? 

You fogot racist and divisive.

[riclag]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

Fortunately, the election is only a week away and then, hopefully, we won't have any nonsense propaganda (the Hitler narrative) to listen to for another few years.  Unfortunately, it's beginning to look like trouble, no matter who wins.  

 

The polls are all nonsense, IMHO.  The betting markets are suggesting a huge Trump win, and the stock and bond markets are also pricing in a Trump victory. And, absent widespread cheating, that's exactly what will happen.  

 

What worries me is what happens after that?  The Deep State is determined.  Trump will never be president again.  Whatever it takes.  Massive civil unrest and martial law?  A widespread power grid outage?  War?  There are plenty of ways it can go. And let's not forget the problems in the world's sovereign debt markets right now.  

 

To your concern about massive civil unrest statement:
The dems in my country have a storied history of violence, civil chaotic unrest resulting in massive numbers of deaths and destruction.

1. Civil War ( the south were heavily democrats)

2. Kkk( created by Dems)

3 Recently Blm’s , Summer of Love Riots!

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Democratic_Party_(United_States)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

 

https://assets.ctfassets.net/qnesrjodfi80/6bQdKPLDjyo2s0I8c60gA2/aec7a4feb53cdd469d9c59bc3dd5cc64/swain-the_inconvenient_truth_about_the_democratic_party-transcript.pdf

[mogandave]

Why has Harris aligned herself with the Nazi Dick Cheney? 

[riclag]

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

Why has Harris aligned herself with the Nazi Dick Cheney? 

War mongers ! This is why some dems have left the party !

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/20/cheney-2024-election-trump-legacy-00057599

[BigStar]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Harris did not call out trump as a Nazi, nor Hitler, but a fascist - try as much as you want, your spin and others from MAGA world doesn't change the facts of the matter. In any case so far as I'm concerned trump has strong autocratic tendencies which one gathers just from his admiration of Orban and others.

 

A must-read for our phony leftist "democracy" supporters:

 

Meet the Real Fascists: How the Left became the very thing it most feared

 

Not that you'll read anything but fake news.

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BigStar

[mogandave]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/pennsylvania-results

 

I hope you are capable of the math.

Just you lying again/still, as expected 

[mogandave]

Early voting in PA has Trump up 15 points.