Thailand Postpones Start of Winter Season

[Reddavy]

Quite people @Kwilco knows everytimg 🤫

[transam]

1 minute ago, Reddavy said:

Quite people @Kwilco knows everytimg 🤫

Indeed.............Well, he thinks he does........🤭

[SmartyMarty]

23 hours ago, kwilco said:

No she doesn't except to patronise people like you?

How often does she speak in English? and how good is her English?

All my Thai friends use the word "winter". Are you on some other planet?

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 10/30/2024 at 5:42 PM, snoop1130 said:

Thailand Postpones Start of Winter Season 

Tell that to my swimming pool, water is cold, not usually this cold, it only gets this cold during winter. 

 

[john donson]

brrrr can't wait for the 5-10 days of a bit colder weather, somewhere in december?

[Kinok Farang]

On 10/30/2024 at 6:13 PM, KannikaP said:

Thank you for enlightening us all.

I would never have thought that the Hot Season is 'characterized by high temperatures'

The Rainy Season 'bringing frequent rains'

 and the Cool Season 'is the mildest, with cooler temperatures'

You live and learn.   555. Where is the sarcastic emoji please?

 

Luckily sarky season lasts all year.

[Kinok Farang]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Tell that to my swimming pool, water is cold, not usually this cold, it only gets this cold during winter. 

 

Ooooo,i've got a swimming pool.

[herfiehandbag]

The season of huddling in fleece jackets and ritualistic chanting "now mak mak* is on hold!(

[kwilco]

4 hours ago, SmartyMarty said:

All my Thai friends use the word "winter". Are you on some other planet?

so what's the Thai word for "winter"?

Edited October 31 by kwilco

[sambum]

18 hours ago, kwilco said:

so what's the Thai word for "winter"?

Google is your friend:-  ดูหนาว Vdū h̄nāw

 

[Balance]

On 10/30/2024 at 6:47 PM, Lorry said:

Nowadays, it's called ฤดูฝุ่น Ruedu fun - smog season. Characterized by burning fields and burning eyes, fire engines spraying Silom Rd and politicians promising improvements. 

I believe that most of the smoke is due to the surreptitious (at night) starting of fires in the forests to coax the shy mushrooms to the surface.

[kwilco]

53 minutes ago, Balance said:

I believe that most of the smoke is due to the surreptitious (at night) starting of fires in the forests to coax the shy mushrooms to the surface.

The pollution varies with location and weather.

Traditionally Thailand burns rubbish and everything at the as the dry season progresses - both domestic and industrial. The most serious aspect is the presence of PM2.5 particles which are small enough to pass though the lungs and directly into the bloodstream.

 

Thousands of people are hospitalised every year, particularly in the North. Although crop burning is Technically illegal as you say surreptitious burning continues - this is partly due to the CARTEL that owns the crop commodities - rice/maize/sugar - they encourage burning to increase production. This is only part of the problem.

Forest fires contribute to pollution - these are largely man-made. This is tied in with mushroom harvesting  - in order to collect this valuable crop the undergrowth is burned out - of course this frequent gets out of control and massive fires ensue.

 

Then there is industry and traffic.

In places like Chiang Mai the topography of the city forms a bowl which cn trap still air under clouds - so on top of the forest and agricultural burning the local traffic and industry contribute as well. People love to blame "foreign countries" from contributing to this, but although partially true the air pollution doesn't know country borders, it is wind and climate dictate where it goes and there are plenty of offenders in Thailand - this argument is largely deflection, by those in denial.

 

  

 

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, sambum said:

Google is your friend:-  ดูหนาว Vdū h̄nāw

 

that translates as "looks cold" - the word winter doesn't apply to the Thai climate - if they were talking about a temperate climate, they would talk about 4 seasons and use the local words for it.

Edited November 1 by kwilco

[StayinThailand2much]

On 10/31/2024 at 3:38 PM, kwilco said:

THere is no Thai word for winter.

 

Some in SE Asia (Thailand, Myanmar, also some Indians) use the English words "winter" and "summer" to refer to the Dry/Hot Seasons... (And, yes, this is silly, of course.)

[Lorry]

On 10/31/2024 at 5:21 PM, SmartyMarty said:

All my Thai friends use the word "winter". Are you on some other planet?

I have never heard a Thai friend use the word "winter" for any season in Thailand. Obviously,  I don't speak English with Thai friends,  why should I?

Those of my Thai friends who can speak English use "cold season" which is the literal translation of formal "ฤดูหนาว - Ruedu Nao" or spoken " หน้าหนาว - nâ: nă:w". (sorry for the diacritic, my keyboard doesn't have the correct one)

 

Neither have I ever heard any foreign friend of mine use the word "winter" in their resp. language for any season in Thailand (I don't speak English with them,  either,  but the word "winter" does exist in their languages).

I have seen this usage in print only,  in local English-language media.

 

BTW you didn't tell us on which planet you live.

I live on the third planet of the closest star next to HIP 70890. 

You?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 2 by Lorry

[watchcat]

On 10/30/2024 at 3:21 PM, theblether said:

Where did they say winter was cancelled? 

 

There's no snow...

[kwilco]

Winter is a misnomer.

It shows a basic misunderstanding  of th local climate by westerners - this goes back through centuries of colonialism  where people tried to impose there western ideas of climate on tropical and equatorial countries - the results where insane farming policies and disastrous famine. 

Wrong crops wrong weather and then the colonists had the arrogance to blame the locals.

THese colonial attiudes have rolled over into the use of inappropriate language to describe the seasons in Thailand.

[transam]

7 hours ago, kwilco said:

Winter is a misnomer.

It shows a basic misunderstanding  of th local climate by westerners - this goes back through centuries of colonialism  where people tried to impose there western ideas of climate on tropical and equatorial countries - the results where insane farming policies and disastrous famine. 

Wrong crops wrong weather and then the colonists had the arrogance to blame the locals.

THese colonial attiudes have rolled over into the use of inappropriate language to describe the seasons in Thailand.

Are you still going on about the word "winter"............?    

[quake]

Looks like the cool season may have arrived yesterday Nongkhai 28,  27 today.

Lovely. 

[SmartyMarty]

On 10/31/2024 at 9:54 PM, kwilco said:

so what's the Thai word for "winter"?

They speak english. maybe you can learn 🙂

[ArnieP]

This Thai government site uses the designation ‘winter’ https://thailand.go.th/issue-focus-detail/009_142

[kwilco]

55 minutes ago, ArnieP said:

This Thai government site uses the designation ‘winter’ https://thailand.go.th/issue-focus-detail/009_142

 

That's not the Thai government and it is in English.

THere is no word in Thai for winter.

 

[kwilco]

1 hour ago, SmartyMarty said:

They speak english. maybe you can learn 🙂

THey speak Thai - there is no thai word for winter. Its cultural imposition.

Edited November 6 by kwilco