Luuk Chaai Posted November 14 Posted November 14 10 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said: Never hear Hendrix on radio now he’s forgotten b time, young listeners don’t listen t Hendrix my son is 20 He and his friends call me often ( live vid ) to show them how to play Hendrix cuts
thaibeachlovers Posted November 14 Posted November 14 12 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said: Of course. Still, I will tell you that Jeff's music is better. Also, I am not commenting on grantsmanship. I am talking solely about the music, itself, and also... Improvisation, and... How it hangs together. If it's so good why don't I hear it ever played on the radio? I listen to an oldies channel and neither Beck nor Hendrix ever get played on it. I suspect it's connected to excessive consumption of illegal substances when young and foolish. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 15 Author Posted November 15 4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: If it's so good why don't I hear it ever played on the radio? I listen to an oldies channel and neither Beck nor Hendrix ever get played on it. I suspect it's connected to excessive consumption of illegal substances when young and foolish. NO. It's because EVERYTHING, including music, has continued to be dumbed down, beginning 2.5 decades ago, or longer...ever since the Cat Vids, on YouTube, and even before. For example, nobody knows what JAZZ is...these days. If you ask some young turk what JAZZ is... They do not know. They think JAZZ is something that it is actually not. The STUPIDITY of youth, today, is horrendous. They know nothing because, They are taught to be inquisitive and to investigate the world.
Hellfire Posted November 15 Posted November 15 19 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: If it's so good why don't I hear it ever played on the radio? I listen to an oldies channel and neither Beck nor Hendrix ever get played on it. I suspect it's connected to excessive consumption of illegal substances when young and foolish. How often do you hear Mozart or Bach played on the popular radio stations today? Come on, consume in excess and produce something valuable. It must be so easy to be another Jimi or Morrison. 1 1
Luuk Chaai Posted November 16 Posted November 16 On 11/14/2024 at 11:15 AM, ujayujay said: It's about music and if you think Jeff Beck live on Ronnie Scotts is garbage, you qualify as arrogant ignorant That was some amazing show,, and a great line up of talent ! One thing most people don't realize ALl the magic that passed thru Hendrix' was done well before the " digital " thechnology for live performance came into existance look at Hendrix in the late 60's vs say what Beck did at Ronnie Scotts / 2007 vs present day 50+ years later Hendrix Guitar/amp/wha/fuzz/Octavia Beck quite a substantial rig with a dozen digital aids plus custom wound pickups.... BUT.. Beck ... all in all it still started with his soul and thru his hands Looking at any other guitarists - present they had 50+ years to study and practice the Master's techniques,,
GammaGlobulin Posted November 16 Author Posted November 16 Somebody's missing the MAIN POINT....which is.... It was ONLY Jeff who could hold several thousand fans riveted, with NO VOCALS.....for two hours....and leave them begging for more. Hendrix could not have done this. Because Hendrix was only a demi-god, compared to the REAL GOD....Jeff Beck. And, live in Tokyo (1999) was not Jeff's best performance. Jeff's best performance was done at Ronnie Scott's..... Hendrix was only HALF of what Jeff was. He never new it, meaning Jeff never new it. Jeff was better. Jeff was the god.
jaywalker2 Posted November 16 Posted November 16 1 hour ago, GammaGlobulin said: Somebody's missing the MAIN POINT....which is.... It was ONLY Jeff who could hold several thousand fans riveted, with NO VOCALS.....for two hours....and leave them begging for more. Hendrix could not have done this. Because Hendrix was only a demi-god, compared to the REAL GOD....Jeff Beck. And, live in Tokyo (1999) was not Jeff's best performance. Jeff's best performance was done at Ronnie Scott's..... Hendrix was only HALF of what Jeff was. He never new it, meaning Jeff never new it. Jeff was better. Jeff was the god. Jimi died at 27. Who knows what he would have done had he lived? Jeff Beck didn't go full instrumental (and pickless) until he was in his 30's. The early Jeff Beck group featured Rod Stewart and Ronnie Wood, a genuine supergroup, but it always had a difficult time and never produced all that much because of internal squabbles.
thaibeachlovers Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/15/2024 at 5:01 PM, GammaGlobulin said: NO. It's because EVERYTHING, including music, has continued to be dumbed down, beginning 2.5 decades ago, or longer...ever since the Cat Vids, on YouTube, and even before. For example, nobody knows what JAZZ is...these days. If you ask some young turk what JAZZ is... They do not know. They think JAZZ is something that it is actually not. The STUPIDITY of youth, today, is horrendous. They know nothing because, They are taught to be inquisitive and to investigate the world. I know what jazz is though I prefer Dixie to boring traditional jazz. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/16/2024 at 2:01 PM, GammaGlobulin said: Somebody's missing the MAIN POINT....which is.... It was ONLY Jeff who could hold several thousand fans riveted, with NO VOCALS.....for two hours....and leave them begging for more. Hendrix could not have done this. Because Hendrix was only a demi-god, compared to the REAL GOD....Jeff Beck. And, live in Tokyo (1999) was not Jeff's best performance. Jeff's best performance was done at Ronnie Scott's..... Hendrix was only HALF of what Jeff was. He never new it, meaning Jeff never new it. Jeff was better. Jeff was the god. Most people will never see any performer live. If they can't reproduce the vibe on record or CD they are a false god. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/16/2024 at 7:42 AM, Hellfire said: How often do you hear Mozart or Bach played on the popular radio stations today? Never because it's not popular. One has to listen to the classical channels to hear it. Most of the sheeple of the world only have music as background noise. Mozart and Bach will still be played long after all of today's music is dead and forgotten, simply because they are the real gods of music. 1
thaibeachlovers Posted November 17 Posted November 17 On 11/15/2024 at 5:01 PM, GammaGlobulin said: The STUPIDITY of youth, today, is horrendous. They know nothing because, They are taught to be inquisitive and to investigate the world. Didn't you mean They are taught to NOT be inquisitive and to NOT investigate the world? The only thing the moguls of the present world want is for the sheeple to buy their cheap and badly made junk, to make more moguls very very rich.
ModdaPunk Posted November 17 Posted November 17 Don't really know these guys but they sound very gay. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted November 17 Author Posted November 17 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: Didn't you mean They are taught to NOT be inquisitive and to NOT investigate the world? The only thing the moguls of the present world want is for the sheeple to buy their cheap and badly made junk, to make more moguls very very rich. Yes. Otherwise... It makes no sense the way I wrote it. 1
Hellfire Posted Friday at 07:18 PM Posted Friday at 07:18 PM On 11/17/2024 at 3:08 PM, GammaGlobulin said: Yes. Otherwise... It makes no sense the way I wrote it. The problem with your posts are your ears. You, for some unknown reason, think you are able to understand which music is better... let me tell you - you are not. Jeff Beck is an absolute zero compared to Jimi. And those ears of yours… you cannot fix them.. just stop having an opinion based on those “not enough developed” ears of yours. 3 1
fondue zoo Posted Friday at 11:00 PM Posted Friday at 11:00 PM Some musicians are famous not necessarily for their playing but for their place in time and impact they made. 1
cdemundo Posted yesterday at 12:45 AM Posted yesterday at 12:45 AM On 11/13/2024 at 2:14 PM, theshu25 said: Ry Cooder better then all of them put together. I'm not big on saying who was best, but Ry Cooder is definitely under-appreciated. Now that we have Spotify/YouTube it's easy to hear any player. Listen to Ry Cooder's slide guitar on the Stones "Sister Morphine" or Randy Newman's "Let's Burn Down the Cornfield". He was so good on those songs.
KannikaP Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM Posted yesterday at 01:18 AM On 11/15/2024 at 6:39 AM, thaibeachlovers said: I listen to an oldies channel and neither Beck nor Hendrix ever get played on it. Hi Ho Silver Lining was on Caroline Flashback yesterday. And a Hexdrix track. And a Shadows one...Hank taught them all they know! Change stations. Here's Beck meets The Beach Boys. But didn't Hendrix say that Surf music was dead, at Monteret Festival.
Luuk Chaai Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago On 11/14/2024 at 7:34 AM, thaibeachlovers said: and yet I changed the channel when he was on. I guess god is only god in person. I think the reason I dislike so much of the 60s and early 70s music is that I wasn't permanently stoned. Being off one's head is a necessity to like Led Zeppelin <deleted> as a point of reference,,, Jimmy Page suxxxxxxxxxx 1
save the frogs Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago On 11/15/2024 at 1:33 PM, Hellfire said: Just listen to this. Performed live. Jeff who? This is horrible horrible horrible music. It shouldn't even be classified as music. It's noise pollution. 1
GammaGlobulin Posted 15 hours ago Author Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, save the frogs said: This is horrible horrible horrible music. It shouldn't even be classified as music. It's noise pollution. No it's not.
save the frogs Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 9 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: No it's not. Are you absolutely 100% sure most of the crap you listen to ain't noise pollution?
GammaGlobulin Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, save the frogs said: Are you absolutely 100% sure most of the crap you listen to ain't noise pollution? I no longer listen to Hendrix, if that's what you mean. Jeff Beck is just so much better. I am mostly a JS Bach listener. If JS Bach is wrong.... I don't wanna be right. Hendix was great. But now, I prefer to listen to Jeff Beck, and JS Bach.... THE TWO J's
KannikaP Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 11/15/2024 at 11:01 AM, GammaGlobulin said: For example, nobody knows what JAZZ is...these days. If you ask some young turk what JAZZ is... They do not know. They think JAZZ is something that it is actually not. JAZZ can be anything from Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, Jaco Pastorious or Barber, Bilk and someone else beginning with B. And there are so many different genres, nobody can know all of them. Stephan Grapelli was a Jazz violinist. The Four Freshmen were a Jazz vocal quartet. And Niel Diamond was The Jazz Singer.
GammaGlobulin Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, KannikaP said: someone else beginning with B You must mean....BB
KannikaP Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, GammaGlobulin said: You must mean....BB Kenny Ball, Chris Barber and Acker Bilk.
GammaGlobulin Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago On 12/14/2024 at 8:18 AM, KannikaP said: Here's Beck meets The Beach Boys. But didn't Hendrix say that Surf music was dead, at Monteret Festival. Not dead. Although, Hendrix is clearly dead, and died too young.
Prubangboy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Why was Miles Davis in awe of John Coltrane? Same diff. I prefer Coltrane to Miles, and Jimi to Jeff. Some people prefer messy over neat. It's nice to be spoiled with genius-choice.
GammaGlobulin Posted 4 hours ago Author Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Prubangboy said: prefer Coltrane to Miles, and Jimi to Jeff. Some people prefer messy over neat. ABSOLUTELY. Coltrane, absolutely.
Prubangboy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Sound originator versus visionary. It's down more to temperament than to taste. Miles had more genius albums. John only had more genius.
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